Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[sorcerer]

India’s New Aircraft Carrier, Vikrant, May Get 5th-Generation Fighter
The Indian Navy’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, may start sea trials soon. This could pave the way for her to be commissioned this year. She is currently moored near the shipyard in Kochi on the south-western coast of India. When she joins the fleet, she will be a key component to India’s ability to face China’s growing naval reach. In particular China is building up its aircraft carrier capabilities.


Initially Vikrant will likely be equipped with the existing MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft. But there is an expectation that a new type will be fielded. India’s main aircraft manufacturer, HAL, is developing a dedicated carrier-borne 5th generation fighter.

India’s New Aircraft Carrier, Vikrant, May Get 5th-Generation Fighter - Naval News

The air wing of the Indian Navy's latest carrier, INS Vikrant, could include a new indigenous fighter plane. The TEDBF (Twin Engine deck Based Fighter) is the natural successor to India's Light Combat aircraft (LCA), the Tejas. If it is flown it will be inherently better suited to the Indian...

www.navalnews.com

 

[sorcerer]

Fourth Scorpene submarine likely to be inducted by year end

The 4th Scorpene conventional diesel-electric submarine Vela is expected to be commissioned into the Navy by year end while Vagsheer, 6th and last Scorpene submarine which is under construction, is expected to be launched into water by year end, according to a defence source.

Fourth Scorpene submarine likely to be inducted by year end

Conventional diesel-electric Vela is undergoing advanced stages of sea trials

www.thehindu.com

Caution: The Hindu

 

[IndianHawk]

If we can design a 40,000 ton carrier then LHDs, LPDs, Oilers etc. are pieces of cake.

No idea why MoD/IN wants a foreign design for MRSV...could just tell DND to downsize the Vikrant, eliminate the angled flight deck & ski-jump, add a well deck. Give production contract to L&T Kattupalli.

No idea what's going on.

They want to upgrade the HSL while building msrv by European way of doing things.

Naval design bureau is already too busy designing combat ships. Yards need to learn to develop new design and upgrade themselves to modern standards . Hence foreign collaboration.

 

[IndianHawk]

Fourth Scorpene submarine likely to be inducted by year end

The 4th Scorpene conventional diesel-electric submarine Vela is expected to be commissioned into the Navy by year end while Vagsheer, 6th and last Scorpene submarine which is under construction, is expected to be launched into water by year end, according to a defence source.

Fourth Scorpene submarine likely to be inducted by year end

Conventional diesel-electric Vela is undergoing advanced stages of sea trials

www.thehindu.com

Caution: The Hindu

Keeping yards idle after p75 will result in loosing experts workers and technology. Atleast 3 more scorpions must be orders before p75 I could start to keep man and materials in the work.

 

[cobra commando]

Indian Navy choses the local to boost its operational capability

NEW DELHI: The Indian Navy has gone for local to boost the maritime operational capacity of the country. There have been orders placed with the Hindustan Aerona

www.newindianexpress.com

 

[sorcerer]

Indigenously built Indian Naval Landing Craft Utility L58 Commissioned at Port Blair; The ship adds fillip to Make in India & Atmanirbhar Bharat programme


Posted On: 18 MAR 2021 4:43PM by PIB Delhi



Indian Naval Landing Craft Utility (LCU) L58, the eighth and last ship of the Landing Craft Utility (LCU) Mark IV Class, was commissioned into the Indian Navy at Port Blair, Andaman & Nicobar Islands on March 18, 2021. Commander-in-Chief, Andaman and Nicobar Command (CINCAN) Lieutenant General Manoj Pande was the Chief Guest and Chairman & Managing Director, Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd (GRSE) Rear Admiral Vipin Kumar Saxena, IN (Retd) was present for the event.


Commander Krishan K Yadav read the Commissioning Warrant as the first Commanding Officer of the ship. The ship is manned by a motivated team of five officers and 50 sailors. Indigenously designed and built by GRSE, Kolkata, the ship’s commissioning has added one more feather in the cap of the nation’s ‘Make in India’ & ‘Atmanirbhar Bharat’ programme in the field of warship design and construction.


The LCU 58 is an amphibious ship which can carry 160 troops, in addition to its crew. With a displacement of 900 tons, the ship is capable of carrying various types of combat vehicles such as Main Battle Tanks (MBTs), BMPs, Armoured Vehicles, trucks, etc. The ship measures 63 meters in length and is fitted with two MTA 4,000 series engines, which are capable of propelling the ship at speeds of up to 15 knots (28 kmph). The ship is also fitted with an advanced Electronic Support Measure (ESM) suite to intercept enemy radar transmissions, an advanced Integrated Bridge System (IBS) and a sophisticated Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS), which allow single station monitoring of the ship’s navigational and machinery equipment respectively. The main armament of the ship includes two indigenously manufactured 30 mm CRN 91 guns which are controlled by a Stabilised Optronic Pedestal (SOP), an electronic day-night director sight manufactured by Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL). In addition, the ship is fitted with six Machine Gun Posts to neutralise air, surface and sub-conventional threats.


The LCU 58 would be based at Port Blair and will be deployed in a variety of roles such as Beaching, Search and Rescue, Disaster Relief, Coastal Patrol and Surveillance operations along the Andaman and Nicobar Group of Islands, Bay of Bengal and in the Indian Ocean.


It will augment the Indian Navy’s mobility, reach and flexibility, furthering the Andaman and Nicobar Command’s motto, ‘Victory through Jointness’.

ABB/Nampi/KA/DK/Savvy

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Navy chooses the local to boost its operational capability
The Indian Navy has gone for local to boost the maritime operational capacity of the country. There have been orders placed with the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for fixed wing aircraft and rotary wing helicopters.

Shripad Naik, Minister of State (MoS), Defence said on Wednesday, “Indian Navy has placed orders for Aircraft 12 Dorniers, 16 Advanced Light Helicopters (ALH MK III), 8 Chetak helicopters by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).”

MoS Defence was replying in Lok Sabha to a question asked by Ravindra Kushwaha, Member of Parliament from Salempur in Uttar Pradesh.


The Minister admitted of delays into the delivery process and also informed about delays in delivery of the Submarines being constructed in Mazgaon Dockyard Limited (MDL), Mumbai.

“Six Scorpene class submarines are being built by Mazagon Dock and Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) under Project-75.” Minister said and added, there are some delays in the projects.

Minister said the outbreak of COVID-19 pandemic has further impacted the delivery schedule of the submarines.

The aircraft deliveries have been delayed due to the supply chain disruptions caused by COVID-19 pandemic and the delays in Submarine delivery have been caused due to the various defects observed during the trials of the submarines, requirement of certain modifications and delays in the supply of items required for construction by the collaborator / ToT provider - Naval Group, France, said Shripad Naik.

COVID-19 added further to the delays in the submarine delivery but did not give details. “In the interest of national security the details cannot be divulged said Naik, “However, the existing submarine fleet is being maintained combat worthy through life extensions and modernization/ upgradation.” Indian Navy has been facing issues of obsolescence in its underwater combat capabilities however the Projects 75 and 75 (India) will plug this gap.

Due to the indigenization effort of the Navy, 40 of the total 51 ships and submarines on order and to be part of the Navy are being constructed in the Indian shipyards.

Apart from the Scorpene submarines (Project 75), Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC), Vishakhapatnam Class Stealth Destroyers (Project 15B), Kamorta class anti-submarine corvettes (Project 28), Nilgiri class Frigates (Project 17A). Six more advanced submarines under the Project 75 (India) are slated to be constructed in Indian.

The first indigenous ship INS Nilgiri was the Leander Class-class Frigates were constructed at the Mazagaon Dockyard Limited (MDL), Mumbai. Indian Navy started working on indigenous design of warships in early 1960s and by now have successfully completed 19 warship designs based on which more than 90 platforms have been constructed.

Navy is working to plug the process to cap the delays in delivery of platforms being manufactured indigenously.

Indian Navy chooses the local to boost its operational capability

The Indian Navy has gone for local to boost the maritime operational capacity of the country. There have been orders placed with the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for fixed wing aircraft and rotary wing helicopters. Shripad Naik, Minister of State (MoS), Defence said on Wednesday, “Indian...

www.defencenews.in

 

[Gessler]

They want to upgrade the HSL while building msrv by European way of doing things.

Naval design bureau is already too busy designing combat ships. Yards need to learn to develop new design and upgrade themselves to modern standards . Hence foreign collaboration.

This indeed seems to be the plan/line of thinking. However I do not like it...there is no point in delaying military requirements for the purpose of bringing all DPSU yards 'up to speed' so to speak. Not wise to subsidize underperforming DPSUs at the expense of military requirements.

Yes, it could help likes of HSL to bring themselves up with foreign collaboration but the same can be achieved with private investment in enterprise like the example of L&T Kattupalli. That one yard is perhaps at a par with Babcock in terms of availability of modern infrastructure.

Besides, I have a grim view of the future of DPSUs...or PSUs of any kind for that matter. I won't be surprised if by next budget the decision is taken to liquidate/privatize many PSU shipyards - and that would be a good thing to do. (even though HSL seems to be performing somewhat good in more recent times, at one point in 2010s it was almost hopeless).

 

[lcafanboy]

Vc11184 equipped with Direct Energy Weapon...

 

[sorcerer]

Indian Naval Ship Shardul arrives at port of Antsiranana, Madagascar, will undertake joint patrolling and Passex with Malagasy Navy

Anatavario, Mar 21(UNI) Indian Naval Ship Shardul arrived at port of Antsiranana, Madagascar today for Overseas Deployment (OSD) of training squadron.
During the visit, the ship will undertake PASSEX and joint patrolling in Malagasy waters along with the Malagasy Navy on March 24, 2021. The visit of INS Shardul highlights the strengthening defence ties between India and Madagascar as co-partners in the Indian Ocean Region.
Last year, INS Shardul had visited the Port of Antsiranana on March 10, 2020 with relief material comprising 600 tonnes of rice on behalf of India to deliver quick relief to the flood victims of Madagascar. It was the biggest relief load ever carried by any Indian warship, loaded, transported and unloaded in record time, for quick relief assistance.

Indian Naval Ship Shardul arrives at port of Antsiranana, Madagascar, will undertake joint patrolling and Passex with Malagasy Navy

Anatavario, Mar 21(UNI) Indian Naval Ship Shardul arrived at port of Antsiranana, Madagascar today for Overseas Deployment (OSD) of training squadron.

www.uniindia.com

 

[Blank]

For Navy, 6 nuclear-powered submarines take priority over 3rd aircraft carrier

India’s emphasis on submarines to counter China comes against the backdrop of Beijing raising its capacity to build a destroyer in just 5 years.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[IndianHawk]

This indeed seems to be the plan/line of thinking. However I do not like it...there is no point in delaying military requirements for the purpose of bringing all DPSU yards 'up to speed' so to speak. Not wise to subsidize underperforming DPSUs at the expense of military requirements.

Yes, it could help likes of HSL to bring themselves up with foreign collaboration but the same can be achieved with private investment in enterprise like the example of L&T Kattupalli. That one yard is perhaps at a par with Babcock in terms of availability of modern infrastructure.

Besides, I have a grim view of the future of DPSUs...or PSUs of any kind for that matter. I won't be surprised if by next budget the decision is taken to liquidate/privatize many PSU shipyards - and that would be a good thing to do. (even though HSL seems to be performing somewhat good in more recent times, at one point in 2010s it was almost hopeless).

Navy burned hands with pipapav . Now it's going to be extra careful dealing with private yards even if l&t has robust reputation.

Anyway l&t is in running for multipurpose helicopter carriers which is a massive contract in itself and will require collaboration with yet another foreign partner.

See the pattern !! By the end of this decade all our major shipyards including l&t will be on par with what is now available in korea, Germany and france.
And thereafter it's full speed ahead.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Why are we allowing them? We should harass these ships and jam their sonar.

Two Chinese Survey Ships are Probing a Strategic Section of the Indian Ocean - USNI News

China is gathering data on the undersea environment in the Indian Ocean as evidenced by two government survey ships seen operating in the region via open source satellite photos. These survey activities may be aimed at giving Chinese submariners an advantage in their area. In January, a Chinese...

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[sorcerer]

India to join France-led naval drill 'La Perouse' for first time
New Delhi, Mar 24 (IANS): India will, for the first time, participate in the France-led naval war game 'La Perouse' in the Bay of Bengal next month, top government sources said.


Australia, Japan and the US also participate in Le Perouse, but India's first-ever participation is seen as a significant step.


The exercise is scheduled between April 5 and 7.

After La Perouse, another important naval exercise, the India-French Varuna exercise, will also take place. This time, it will also include the United Arab Emirates.

India to join France-led naval drill 'La Perouse' for first time

By Sumit Kumar Singh New Delhi, Mar 24 (IANS): India will, for the first time, participate in the France-led naval war game 'La Perouse' in the Bay of Bengal next month, top government sources said. Australia, Japan and the US also participate in Le Perouse, but India's first-ever participation...

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[FalconSlayers]

Why are we allowing them? We should harass these ships and jam their sonar.

Two Chinese Survey Ships are Probing a Strategic Section of the Indian Ocean - USNI News

China is gathering data on the undersea environment in the Indian Ocean as evidenced by two government survey ships seen operating in the region via open source satellite photos. These survey activities may be aimed at giving Chinese submariners an advantage in their area. In January, a Chinese...

news.usni.org

They are coming again and again and we are thinking why... for fvcking spying on A&N!!! Just fire a salvo of cruise missiles at them. We are always Gandhiwadi peacefools, we have to be offensive and not defensive.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Nibbas your thoughts on this

 

[Willy3]

If we can design a 40,000 ton carrier then LHDs, LPDs, Oilers etc. are pieces of cake.

No idea why MoD/IN wants a foreign design for MRSV...could just tell DND to downsize the Vikrant, eliminate the angled flight deck & ski-jump, add a well deck. Give production contract to L&T Kattupalli.

No idea what's going on.

Probably time...
Going alone might be a blunder... just think of INS Vikrant and kolkata class destroyer project, it takes a decades to commission them with western standard... just because our shipyards didn't have that experience.
We learnt many things during system integration and trial which cost us time, an experienced shipyard as a guide we can make a cut in time in our first projects.

Also L&T doing good but they are mostly coast guard project... when they will deliver destroyers-frigate-Sub in time only then we could make unbiased judgement.

 

[Willy3]

Nibbas your thoughts on this

I don't expect them to enter service before 2035 anyway.
SSN project is first of its kind and despite our experience with Arihant, I don't think we could roll out and commissioned a design within 5 years.

We should keep the line of Scorpian going and run parallel 75I program... getting 30 advance DE submarine by next decade will be still great... but we should not be much hopeful about getting the first SSN in the sea in this decade atleast.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

They want to upgrade the HSL while building msrv by European way of doing things.

Naval design bureau is already too busy designing combat ships. Yards need to learn to develop new design and upgrade themselves to modern standards . Hence foreign collaboration.

What's HSL??

 

[Lonewolf]

What's HSL??

Hindustan shipyard limited