Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[sorcerer]

Indo-Pacific outreach: India conducts maiden joint naval patrolling with Madagascar

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[Suryavanshi]

Yall nibbairs
Pakistans darling ship 150 million each.

VS 2 Brahmooos 3 million




They will be back to eating grass in case of a war

 

[Ayushraj]

Yall nibbairs
Pakistans darling ship 150 million each.

VS 2 Brahmooos 3 million




They will be back to eating grass in case of a war

Why to waste our most potent weapon for these grass eating porkis.
Brahmos is mostly for Chinese.
We can conform it by our army deployment of brahmos near lac and testing of brahmos during standoff with Chinese.
Air option will be best for these these ships and Indian navy has multiple submarine and anti ship that will do this job easily

 

[Lonewolf]

Why to waste our most potent weapon for these grass eating porkis.
Brahmos is mostly for Chinese.
We can conform it by our army deployment of brahmos near lac and testing of brahmos during standoff with Chinese.
Air option will be best for these these ships and Indian navy has multiple submarine and anti ship that will do this job easily

Their whole strategy is for a offensive role , which they consider as china will be offensive on other front and IN will be defensive at both front , which is not the case .

They are arming small boats of sub 1000 tons with chinese 200 km range ashm , which are subsonic and easy to intercept .

Any salvo fire by us ,will be end to their navy , they are buying frigates which are defended by missile of 20 km or so range , except type54a , they don't have defensive.capability , it is same doctrine as of a normal terrorist , suicide bomber , they know in naval conflict their navy will sink ,so why don't just increase enemy casualty ,but IN have better missile in defensive role

 

[Ayushraj]

Their whole strategy is for a offensive role , which they consider as china will be offensive on other front and IN will be defensive at both front , which is not the case .

They are arming small boats of sub 1000 tons with chinese 200 km range ashm , which are subsonic and easy to intercept .

Any salvo fire by us ,will be end to their navy , they are buying frigates which are defended by missile of 20 km or so range , except type54a , they don't have defensive.capability , it is same doctrine as of a normal terrorist , suicide bomber , they know in naval conflict their navy will sink ,so why don't just increase enemy casualty ,but IN have better missile in defensive role

We have barak series of missile that can easily tackle cruise missile threat from both the Countries.
We must also know that chinese Cruise missile are proven in combat and are dangerous (2006 ins hanit incident).
Chinese navy as of now faces huge logistics problem to operate in Indian Ocean.
Pakistani can easily be tackled by our air force and navy combined.
We have nuclear powered submarine that can easily coke any Pakistani navy offensive role.
Brahmos missile which is mostly deployed by army and air force is focused upon targeting Chinese logistics near lac.

 

[Lonewolf]

We have barak series of missile that can easily tackle cruise missile threat from both the Countries.
We must also know that chinese Cruise missile are proven in combat and are dangerous (2006 ins hanit incident).
Chinese navy as of now faces huge logistics problem to operate in Indian Ocean.
Pakistani can easily be tackled by our air force and navy combined.
We have nuclear powered submarine that can easily coke any Pakistani navy offensive role.
Brahmos missile which is mostly deployed by army and air force is focused upon targeting Chinese logistics near lac.

Their ashm is average, not some silver bullet .
Ins hanit was armed with barak 1 , a point defense small missile , while c 802 is quite bulky

 

[Suryavanshi]

Why to waste our most potent weapon for these grass eating porkis.
Brahmos is mostly for Chinese.
We can conform it by our army deployment of brahmos near lac and testing of brahmos during standoff with Chinese.
Air option will be best for these these ships and Indian navy has multiple submarine and anti ship that will do this job easily

It will cost billions to renew their fleet vs our few 100 millions.
They wouldn't be in a position to replenish their inventory for a decade any attempt of doing so will cause a economic collapse for the pork.
We will establish full contorl of Arabian sea.
China would have to thin out its inventory if they want to protest it's investment.
Murica will thrown a Hissy fit because their supply lines to Afghanistan will be endangered.
Their Billions vs our millions.

 

[Bleh]

 

[sorcerer]

India, US navies participates in Passage Exercise in Eastern Indian Ocean Region
New Delhi [India], March 28 (ANI): Indian Navy warship INS Shivalik with integral helicopter and Long Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft P8I on Sunday participated in a Passage Exercise (PASSEX) with US Navy's USS Theodore Rosevelt Carrier Strike Group in the Eastern Indian Ocean Region.

"In a first, enhancing Jointmanship, Indian Air Force fighters were also included in the Exercise affording IAF an opportunity to practice Air Interception / Air Defence with US Navy close to Indian Coast," Indian Navy said. (ANI)

India, US navies participates in Passage Exercise in Eastern Indian Ocean Region

New Delhi [India], March 28 (ANI): Indian Navy warship INS Shivalik with integral helicopter and Long Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft P8I on Sunday participated in a Passage Exercise (PASSEX) with US Navy's USS Theodore Rosevelt Carrier Strike Group in the Eastern Indian Ocean Region.

www.aninews.in

 

[Vishalreddy3]

I think South Korean Yangyang class mine sweepers would be a good choice

 

[FalconSlayers]

like we made a bank for funding infra projects, why not make a dedicated bank for defence funding?

 

[another_armchair]

like we made a bank for funding infra projects, why not make a dedicated bank for defence funding?

1-1.5% cess on fuel for Defence capex expenditure would be a good start.

Anyway, a good part of road infrastructure that can be monetized via toll is progressing at a good pace and would require less and less money going forward at least for a decade unless the Govt. continues to spend money like crazy on road infra just to keep its business friends happy.

 

[Lonewolf]

1-1.5% cess on fuel for Defence capex expenditure would be a good start.

Anyway, a good part of road infrastructure that can be monetized via toll is progressing at a good pace and would require less and less money going forward at least for a decade unless the Govt. continues to spend money like crazy on road infra just to keep its business friends happy.

Why more road construction ,this was to ensure supply chain continuation , we are developing multiple routes for same destination , not only for traffic adjustment but in cases when a protest occur and road are blocked we should at least have something better than nothing , railways are more prone to these rail roko bullshit , once this roadways part us completed by 2026 or so , we can focus on our railways modernization properly , also waterways need to be worked upon , road ways are a backbone in case of tragedy or something .

Defense expenditure need to be increased but not like copy cat method , rather go for unusual method which are more effective, like our p 8i .

Our lot of problem will be solved if rta 90 is developed , and tejas mk 2 take to sky

 

[FalconSlayers]

Why more road construction ,this was to ensure supply chain continuation , we are developing multiple routes for same destination , not only for traffic adjustment but in cases when a protest occur and road are blocked we should at least have something better than nothing , railways are more prone to these rail roko bullshit , once this roadways part us completed by 2026 or so , we can focus on our railways modernization properly , also waterways need to be worked upon , road ways are a backbone in case of tragedy or something .

Defense expenditure need to be increased but not like copy cat method , rather go for unusual method which are more effective, like our p 8i .

Our lot of problem will be solved if rta 90 is developed , and tejas mk 2 take to sky

Ya for every RTA-90 and Tejas MK2 or any domestic equipment we buy, we add up to our economy and when our GDP grows our defence budget grows. We should focus on JVs as Well.

 

[Lonewolf]

Ya for every RTA-90 and Tejas MK2 or any domestic equipment we buy, we add up to our economy and when our GDP grows our defence budget grows. We should focus on JVs as Well.

Don't know wheter rta 90 will happen in 2026 as claimed by nal or not

 

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Project to build N-powered attack subs set to get CCS nod - Times of India

India is set to clear a mega indigenous project to build three nuclear-powered attack submarines, which will be followed by approval for another three at a later stage, as part of the long-term plan to counter China’s expanding naval footprint in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and beyond.

m.timesofindia.com

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Blank]

Revealed: China’s New Super Submarine Dwarfs Typhoon Class

Revealed: China's New Super Submarine Dwarfs Typhoon Class - Naval News

The new submarine, identified as the Type-100 Class, is armed with 48 Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs). It can also carry ginormous nuclear-powered nuclear-armed autonomous torpedoes. And a hangar on its back indicates a smaller submarine will also be supported. There is no doubt...

www.navalnews.com

Holy Shit!

 

[WolfPack86]

Navy set to lease only new utility helicopters for its warships, eyes two-year deal
Having received responses from over a dozen companies, the Indian Navy has decided to take only new utility helicopters on lease for its warships, and from original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), to shore up its critical capability gaps in this area, ThePrint has learnt.

The Navy has been desperate to replace its Chetak fleet of 1960s vintage with new naval utility helicopters (NUH), but its plans to acquire 111 such choppers under the strategic partnership has run into rough waters because of a number of reasons.

To circumvent this, the Navy had decided to go in for leasing of a certain number of helicopters, for a two-year period, to meet the immediate critical requirement for choppers that are utilised for multiple roles, including search and rescue, casualty evacuation and low-intensity maritime operations, besides torpedo drops.


Accordingly, the Navy had in October last year sent out feelers to over a dozen companies, including Indian firms, seeking to know what they can offer, sources in the defence and security establishment said.

The companies included foreign OEMs and Indian operators such as Pawan Hans, Air Safa and Aryan Aviation, besides top corporate houses who have their own helicopter wings. The Navy also sought information from various embassies such as that of the United Kingdom.

Incidentally, the Navy sought details for leasing of 24 choppers from the Indian operators while seeking information on 12-16 from the foreign OEMs.

The firms responded and the leasing cost cited varied from as low as Rs 40 lakh per month for each chopper to Rs 3.4 crore, the sources said.

RFI to be issued soon

Critics of this process said the Navy had sought information from all including those who had just two helicopters and hence got itself into a convoluted process without taking into account whether the companies had the financial and technical capability to offer specialised helicopters to the force and also maintain them.

However, the Navy sources said unlike the leasing for drones that was done easily since there was only one company in question, the force needed to reach out to all to know what exactly is available in the market.

Talking about the huge variance in the bid amounts and fear that those who gave a costing of mere Rs 40 lakh might win if the concept of lowest bidder is taken into consideration, the sources said multiple criteria is kept in mind and the steps taken until now were just a process to understand what the market can offer.

Having gone through the responses, they added, the force will now come out with a detailed request for information (RFI) that will be sent out to OEMs since it has been decided that the Navy will lease only “new helicopters”, and since the process will also involve substantial investment in maintenance and repair facilities.

“New helicopters” mean the Navy will go in for leasing from OEMs and not any of the Indian operators whose helicopters are already flying in civilian space.

The sources did accept that unlike at the time of leasing of drones, the whole process of which was completed in two months, the helicopter matter is taking time since there are multiple players.

While European firm Airbus, which is offering its AS565 MBe naval version of the Panther family of helicopters, is considered to be the front-runner for both leasing and the overall plan for 111 NUHs, Navy sources said it is too early to speculate on who will bag the contract.

Defencenews.in