Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Flint]

Finally! Half the Indian Navy sits in Bombay, while the east coast is virtually deserted.

 

[p2prada]

Finally! Half the Indian Navy sits in Bombay, while the east coast is virtually deserted.

The Western coast is more important. Most of the world's shipping and Pakistan is near our western coast.

 

[bengalraider]

Finally! Half the Indian Navy sits in Bombay, while the east coast is virtually deserted.

Most of the more powerful assets of the IN have always been placed on the western seaboard to prevent any misadventures by the PN, There is no viable naval threat from any of the states bordering the bay of Bengal.

 

[jakojako777]

Russian shipyard set to float out frigate for India in November

KALININGRAD, November 10 (RIA Novosti) - The Yantar shipyard in Russia's Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad is planning to float out the first of the three frigates being built for the Indian Navy at the end of November, a company spokesman said Tuesday.

Russia is building three Project 11356 modified Krivak III class (also known as Talwar class) guided missile frigates for the Indian Navy under a $1.6 billion contract signed in July, 2006.

"The first frigate in the series is expected to float out at the end of November," Sergei Mikhailov said.

"Floating out does not mean that the sea trials will start right away. We still have to carry out post-construction work. The trials will start in 2010," he added.

Mikhailov reaffirmed that the shipyard should be able to deliver all three vessels to the customer in 2011-2012.

The Talwar class frigate has a deadweight of 4,000 metric tons and a speed of 30 knots, and is capable of accomplishing a wide range of maritime missions, primarily hunting down and destroying large surface ships and submarines.

Russia has previously built three Talwar class frigates for India - INS Talwar (from the Hindi language meaning Sword), INS Trishul (Trident), and INS Tabar (Axe).

Indian President Pratibha Patil has named the new ships the Teg (Saber), the Tarkash (Quiver), and the Trikand (Bow).

All of the new frigates will be armed with eight BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles rather than 3M-54E Klub-N anti-ship missiles, which were installed on previous frigates.

They will be also equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil air defense system, two Kashtan air defense gun/missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo tubes, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.

Russian shipyard set to float out frigate for India in November | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India wants warships it lent to Sri Lanka back - Hindustan Times

India wants warships it lent to Sri Lanka back

The Indian Coast Guard is uncertain about getting back two warships that it leased out to the Sri Lankan Navy in 2007 on an annually renewable contract.

The two vessels, Coast Guard Ship (CGS) Varaha and CGS Vigraha, equipped with helicopters and rapid-fire machine guns, were leased out when Colombo was preparing for the offensive against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

But now the Sri Lankan Navy appears to be clueless about the Coast Guard’s demand for returning the warships and renamed the Varaha as Sagara and the Vigraha as Sayurala.

Sri Lankan Navy spokesperson Captain Athula Senarath said on phone from Colombo that his country was grateful to India for making the two vessels available to it.

The government might find it hard to put diplomatic niceties aside to accommodate the Coast Guard. It also does not want to lose more ground to China and Pakistan, which have been catering to Sri Lanka’s military needs.

A senior defence ministry official, who did not wish to be identified, confirmed, “They (The Coast Guard) feel the Sri Lankan Navy doesn’t need the vessels, with the LTTE dead and gone.”

The source said the government was likely to provide new replacements to the Coast Guard for the ships given to Sri Lanka.

While the government has sanctioned 55 more warships and 45 aircraft for the Coast Guard after the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, it is no secret that these assets cannot be inducted overnight.

“Orders have been placed with various shipyards, but deliveries will take at least two years to complete. In that sense, we are still grappling with a shortage of assets,” said a Coast Guard source.

The Coast Guard is responsible for securing territorial waters extending to 12 miles off the Indian shores. It does so under the supervision of the Indian Navy.

 

[icecoolben]

The indian government should pacify the coast gaurd and try to get it 2 patrol vessels from either the navy or from builders in japan or south korea who are known for record build rates,efficency. Lets not push columboo back into pak, chinese arms.

 

[blade]

I have a question to every one.Can anyone get me the correct and latest information aboout the sea to air missile systems that is to be installed in the kolkata class destroyers?Please dont tell me wikipedia stuff as thats a wrong info. Barak -8 will not be ready by 2012 so which will be the system? is it barak II ?

 

[RPK]

Briton given 18 years for racial killing of Indian

fullstory

London, Nov 10 (PTI) A Briton was today sentenced to a minimum of 18 years in prison for the "racially-aggravated" murder of Indian Navy officer Kunal Mohanty by a court here.

Christopher Miller, 25, had knifed 30-year-old Mohanty in the neck as he walked to a restaurant with his friends in Glasgow in March this year.

Miller claimed in court that the incident was 'botched mugging' but a jury at the High Court in Glasgow returned a unanimous verdict of murder.

The judge said the killing was as "incomprehensible as it was evil".

During the trial at the High Court in Glasgow prosecutors said the seaman was attacked because of his skin colour.

Mohanty, who was due to become a father for the first time, was in Glasgow to sit his captain's exams at the city's Nautical College.

 

[RPK]

German marine equipment makers eye Indian market

German marine equipment makers eye Indian market

The German marine and offshore equipment suppliers are trying to make a strategic entry into the Indian ship building market with the defence ministry earmarking Rs 4,700 crore in 2009-2010 for acquiring naval ships.

A 16-member high level German delegation, which has made a presentation to the Garden Reach Ship Builders & Engineers (GRSE) on Tuesday and is slated to visit the Mazgaon Dock Ltd (MDL) on Wednesday is hoping to supply equipment to these government owned companies, already having orders from the defence sector.
Hauke Schlegel, MD, Marine and Offshore Equipment Industries, said the delegation will visit Kolkata and Mumbai with an aim to explore business and tie-up possibilities with Indian ship builders.

Although the delegation in Kolkata held meetings with 25 companies into the business of manufacturing ship building equipment, their main aim is to get a share of orders that GRSE and MDL are likely to place.

While the Indian Navy has already placed orders for ships worth Rs 1,400 crore with MDL, it has placed orders worth Rs 550 crore with GRSE.

Schlegel said the German marine and offshore equipment suppliers, which are a group of 400 ship building and equipment manufacturing companies with a $12.9 billion turnover, are looking at the possibilities of tie-ups with major ship builders or sourcing for them than forming joint ventures with the Indian medium and small scale enterprises, supplying equipment to major ship builders.

Schlegel said the German experience in China of forming JVs have been difficult with most German companies having to come out of the business within a year of forming JVs.

“The Chinese companies simply adopt technologies and start manufacturing on their own. So far as the experience of tying up with the Indian companies go, such things have not occurred. But we are cautious about forming JVs,” Schlegel said.

Rajesh Nath, director of the German Engineering Federation (VDMA) in India, said more and more German engineering companies are willing to set up manufacturing facilities with a view to cater to the Indian market and the south Asian market as well.

Nath said cost of production in India is 60% less than that of Germany but low productivity brings down the cost advantage to below 20%.

However Indo- German trade grew by 11% at 13.4 billion Euros in 2008 calendar year despite the fact that economic meltdown was into the year for the last three months….

 

[Sridhar]

I have a question to every one.Can anyone get me the correct and latest information aboout the sea to air missile systems that is to be installed in the kolkata class destroyers?Please dont tell me wikipedia stuff as thats a wrong info. Barak -8 will not be ready by 2012 so which will be the system? is it barak II ?

6-cell BrahMos UVLM along with a 32-cell UVLM for the Barak-2 below the bridge, and another 32-cell UVLM for the Barak-2 aft of the helicopter deck.

Type 15A / Project 15A Kolkata Class Guided missile Destroyer

 

[blade]

6-cell BrahMos UVLM along with a 32-cell UVLM for the Barak-2 below the bridge, and another 32-cell UVLM for the Barak-2 aft of the helicopter deck.

Type 15A / Project 15A Kolkata Class Guided missile Destroyer

Sir i thank you for your attempt to provide me the answar but my question was more precise in a sense that i want to know only about sea to air missile systems. what is barak II ? This link, which is read by me long time back claims barak II range to be 70km. Basically this is the range of barak 8 which is now being developed and willl take much longer time to fructify. So its not likely that P 15A will carry them. Then what will be this barak II? what range will it have? I have been trying to get info about this since 2008 but hadnt yet got any success. I am again requesting all the members in this forum to try and find out the answar as the capability of kolkata class destroyers will depend on this.

 

[ppgj]

Sir i thank you for your attempt to provide me the answar but my question was more precise in a sense that i want to know only about sea to air missile systems. what is barak II ? This link, which is read by me long time back claims barak II range to be 70km. Basically this is the range of barak 8 which is now being developed and willl take much longer time to fructify. So its not likely that P 15A will carry them. Then what will be this barak II? what range will it have? I have been trying to get info about this since 2008 but hadnt yet got any success. I am again requesting all the members in this forum to try and find out the answar as the capability of kolkata class destroyers will depend on this.

don't know if it can clear up.
check for barak 2-

India, Israel tie up on next-gen Barak missiles

wiki says it was tested in 2009.
Barak (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

barak 8 is land based and will have a range of 150km according to this-
India, Israel To Co-Develop Advanced Barak Ship Defense Missile System | India Defence

 

[RPK]

cross posting

Navy to be equipped with MiG-29K jets

 

[RPK]

Coast Guard to set up air station at Tuticorin

Chennai, Nov 11 (IANS) The Indian Coast Guard Thursday announced the setting up of a mini air station in the port city of Tuticorin in Tamil Nadu and assured sufficient protection for fishermen from Sri Lankan navy attacks.
Speaking to reporters after calling on Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi here, Commander Coast Guard (Region East) A. Rajasekhar said: “The mini air station will set up on 50 acres of land in Tuticorin.”

Another such mini station is being set up in Ulundurpet around 150 km from here.

Queried about the attacks by the Sri Lankan navy on Indian fishermen, he said the chief minister too expressed concern over the matter and wanted the Coast Guard to protect the fishermen.

 

[Sridhar]

Russian shipyard set to float out frigate for India in November



KALININGRAD, November 10 (RIA Novosti) - The Yantar shipyard in Russia's Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad is planning to float out the first of the three frigates being built for the Indian Navy at the end of November, a company spokesman said Tuesday.
Russia is building three Project 11356 modified Krivak III class (also known as Talwar class) guided missile frigates for the Indian Navy under a $1.6 billion contract signed in July, 2006.
"The first frigate in the series is expected to float out at the end of November," Sergei Mikhailov said.
"Floating out does not mean that the sea trials will start right away. We still have to carry out post-construction work. The trials will start in 2010," he added.
Mikhailov reaffirmed that the shipyard should be able to deliver all three vessels to the customer in 2011-2012.
The Talwar class frigate has a deadweight of 4,000 metric tons and a speed of 30 knots, and is capable of accomplishing a wide range of maritime missions, primarily hunting down and destroying large surface ships and submarines.
Russia has previously built three Talwar class frigates for India - INS Talwar (from the Hindi language meaning Sword), INS Trishul (Trident), and INS Tabar (Axe).
Indian President Pratibha Patil has named the new ships the Teg (Saber), the Tarkash (Quiver), and the Trikand (Bow).
All of the new frigates will be armed with eight BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles rather than 3M-54E Klub-N anti-ship missiles, which were installed on previous frigates.
They will be also equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil air defense system, two Kashtan air defense gun/missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo tubes, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.


http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20091110/156783495.html

 

[RPK]

India’s plight: A carrier running out of jets; fighters without their carrier


Sheer lack of long-term strategic planning, coupled with a dose of bad luck, has landed India in a peculiar situation. If it did not



expose a gaping hole in the country’s military capabilities, the predicament would have actually been quite ludicrous.

On one hand, it has an ageing but newly-refurbished aircraft carrier, INS Viraat, which is fast running out of fighters which can operate from its deck.
On the other, it’s soon going to induct another type of maritime fighters but no suitable carrier to operate them from. Navy will get Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov only by early-2013 but will begin inducting its MiG-29Ks later this month.

Sources say the first four of the 16 MiG-29Ks contracted along with the 44,570-tonne Gorshkov, in the initial $1.5-billion package deal inked with Russia in January 2004 after a decade of negotiations, will arrive in India in the “last week of November”.

This comes at a time when the 50-year-old INS Viraat is finally back in action after an 18-month-long comprehensive refit to increase its longevity as well as upgrade its weapon and sensor packages.

But, as reported by TOI earlier, the 28,000-tonne old warhorse is left with only 11 of its Sea Harrier jump-jets. Navy inducted 30 of the British-origin Sea Harriers, which take off from the angled ski-jump on INS Viraat but land vertically on its deck, but has lost over half of them in accidents since mid-1980s.

India had shown interest in buying some more Sea Harriers from British Royal Navy, which replaced the fighters in 2006 with Harrier-GR9s, some time ago but the deal did not ultimately materialise.

Unlike the `unconventional’ Sea Harriers, which are V/STOL (vertical and/or short take-off and landing) jets, MiG-29Ks are `conventional’ fighters and hence cannot operate from small carriers like Viraat.

The ongoing refit of the partly-burnt Gorshkov, at Sevmash Shipyard in North Russia, in fact, includes removal of missile launchers on the bow to build a ski-jump at a 14.3 degree angle as well as three arrestor wires on the angled deck for MiG-29Ks.

“MiG-29Ks, which are `tail-hookers’, will land on Gorshkov with help of arrestor wires in STOBAR (short take-off but arrested recovery) configuration. They cannot land vertically like Sea Harriers,” said an official.

Incidentally, India is going to order 29 more MiG-29Ks for around $1.1 billion since the fighters will operate from both Gorshkov, rechristened INS Vikramaditya, as well as the long-delayed 40,000-tonne indigenous aircraft carrier being built at Cochin Shipyard, which should roll out by 2014-2015.

India and Russia, of course, have to still settle their bitter wrangling over the huge jump in Gorshkov’s refit cost. “Its earlier $974 million refit cost will go up to $2.5 billion or so… The negotiations are still in progress. But Gorshkov will come to us by 2012-2013,” said the official.

Consequently, Navy will have to wait till then to undertake carrier deck operations of MiG-29Ks. In the interim, naval pilots will have to fly the MiG-29Ks from only the shore-based airbase INS Hansa in Goa.

 

[ironman]

Navy launches patrol vessel​

Sat, Nov 14 07:27 PM

Panaji, Nov 14 (PTI) Navy today launched an off-shore patrol vessel (OPV) that will be used for ocean surveillance and surface warfare operations to prevent infiltration and transgression of maritime sovereignty. The 105-metre-long vessel is built by Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL), a defence yard located in Goa.

"This Vessel will be deployed for monitoring sea lines of communication, protection of off-shore oil installations and other important national assets,"a spokesman for the shipyard said. Besides, the vessel can also be deployed for escorting high value ships and fleet support operations.

Sporting a flight deck, the vessel supports embarkation and operation of an Advanced Light Helicopter. "Launch of this vessel is a milestone in the quest of the Indian Navy to provide foolproof security to the nation and assumes significance in the aftermath of the terrorist strike in Mumbai," he added.

The vessel was launched at Vasco by Rajni Bhasin, wife of vice admiral Sanjeev Bhasin, Flag officer Commanding-in-chief, Western Naval Command. .

 

[RAM]

Antony reviews progress in tightening coastal security


New Delhi, Nov 12 (IANS) Defence Minister A.K. Antony Thursday reviewed at a high-level meeting here the progress made in tightening the coastal security after the Mumbai terror attack last year.The meeting was attended by the national security advisor, the cabinet secretary, the defence secretary, the navy chief, the shipping secretary, the border management secretary and the director general of the coast guard.

Establishment of a radar chain along India’s 7,515-km long coastline is under progress, the meeting was told.

“Setting up of radar chain is the top priority. About 46 radars are being installed all along the coast, including the island territories, in the first phase at the cost of about Rs.300 crore (Rs.3 billion). The radars will have sensors for detection of any vessel near the coast,” a defence spokesperson said.

Antony was informed at the meeting that one advanced offshore patrol vessel and two interceptor boats have been commissioned this year and six would be commissioned by March 2010.“Five contracts for 74 surface vessels and four Dornier aircraft have been made. For navy, the procurement of 80 fast interceptor boats has been fast tracked,” the spokesperson added.

In the aftermath of the 26/11 attack, the Indian Navy was made the nodal agency for the coastal security and set up joint operation centres at Mumbai, Vishakhapatnam, Kochi, Port Blair under a naval commander-in-chief.“The defence minister was apprised that intelligence gathering and sharing integrated with the setting up of JOCs and MAC’s (multi-agency centres). Moreover, a toll-free number 1093 has been established in coastal states and union territories for coastal security,” said the spokesperson.

Antony reviews progress in tightening coastal security

 

[nitesh]

A chain of radars AIS to block sea route for terrorists!

A chain of radars and Automatic Identification System (AIS) would be deployed along the coast by next year to block the sea route for terrorists, a top official said.

 

[bsn4u1985]

Final trials of Russia's Nerpa sub to start next week

Final trials of Russia's Nerpa sub to start next week | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire


VLADIVOSTOK, November 15 (RIA Novosti) - Final trials of Russia's Nerpa nuclear attack submarine, damaged in a fatal accident during tests in November last year, will begin late next week, the submarine's producer said on Sunday.

On November 8, 2008, while the Nerpa was undergoing sea trials, its onboard fire suppression system activated, releasing a deadly gas into the sleeping quarters. Three crewmembers and 17 shipyard workers were killed. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, onboard the vessel at the time.

"Initially, the submarine's state trials were scheduled to start on November 15. But later a decision was made to postpone them for a week. In about 5-6 days the submarine will leave the dock for state trials, which will last about two weeks," a spokesman for the Amur shipyard said.

Following the repairs, which cost an estimated 1.9 billion rubles ($65 million), the submarine was cleared for final sea trials before being commissioned with the Russian Navy in December 2009 and will be subsequently leased to the Indian Navy under the name INS Chakra.

India reportedly paid $650 million for a 10-year lease of the 12,000-ton K-152 Nerpa, an Akula II class nuclear-powered attack submarine.

Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.