Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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may be we should put more resources with coast guard and leave navy to take care of the northern arabian sea region
 

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India's China Panic: Seeing a 'Red Peril' on Land and Sea - TIME





In recent weeks, public attention in India has reached feverish levels over what is perceived to be the growing threat lurking north of the border. Tensions along the Himalayan frontier with China have spiked noticeably since a round of Sino-Indian talks over long-standing territorial disputes this summer ended in failure. In their wake, the frenetic Indian press has chronicled reports of nighttime boundary incursions and troop build-ups, even while officials in both governments downplay such confrontations. Elements in the Indian media point almost daily to various signs of a Beijing plot to contain its neighbor's rise, a conviction aided by recent hawkish editorials from China's state-run outlets. This week, leading Indian news networks loudly catalogued Chinese transgressions under headlines such as "Red Peril" and "Enter the Dragon."

India and China fought a war in 1962 whose acrimonious legacy lingers even while economic ties flourish (China is now India's biggest trade partner). Beijing refuses to acknowledge the de facto border — demarcated by the British empire — and claims almost the entirety of the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh as part of its own territory. Indian strategic analysts believe Beijing's stance has hardened in recent years, perhaps as a consequence of its increasing economic and military edge over India as well as growing Chinese influence in smaller South Asian countries like Nepal and Bangladesh. Comments made last month by India's outgoing navy chief that the country could not hope to match China's hard power capabilities set off a bout of national hand-wringing. "There's a nervousness among some policy makers that the Chinese see India as weak and vulnerable to coercion," says Harsh Pant, professor of defense studies at King's College, London, and author of a forthcoming book on India's China policy. "Indians feel they can't manage China's rise and that they are far, far behind."
(Read about China and India's high-seas rivalry.)

But the real arena for future confrontation, say most Indian strategists, lies not in standoffs on remote, rugged peaks, but in the waters all around the Indian Subcontinent. The Indian Ocean is the thoroughfare for nearly half of global seaborne trade, its coastal states home to over 60% of the world's oil and a third of its gas reserves. Traditionally, India has imagined the ocean as part of its backyard without investing serious resources in its navy — much more still goes to an army and air force perched by the land boundaries with the old enemy Pakistan. And that gap between India's maritime hubris and real power has been exposed in recent times by China, which is buoyed by its own sense of historical revival — dating back to the days when the eunuch admiral Zheng He sailed his medieval trade fleets to India and Africa, bringing back, among other things, a giraffe.

To safeguard its vast appetite for oil and other natural resources, particularly drawn from Africa, China has embarked upon a "string of pearls" strategy, building ports and listening posts around the Indian Ocean rim. Beijing's projects span from the Malacca Straits to the Cape of Good Hope, and many places in between, including countries that were once in India's sphere of influence. A massive deep-sea port being built by Chinese funds and labor at Hambantota, at the southern tip of Sri Lanka, has in particular riled Indian analysts. With a $1 billion facility also under construction in Gwadar, in Pakistan, China will eventually possess key naval choke points around the Subcontinent that could disrupt Indian lines of communication and shipping. Reports of a tense standoff earlier this year between Indian and Chinese warships on anti-piracy patrol in the Gulf of Aden — though dismissed by both governments — did little to subdue the sense of distrust brewing between policymakers on both sides.

In response to China's gains, India's navy aims to modernize its own fleet. It launched the country's first nuclear submarine in July and purchased new destroyers from Russia and the U.S., yet China's plans to build aircraft carriers and boost its own submarine fleet far outstrip that of New Delhi. India has expanded defense contacts and exchanges with a host of strategic Indian Ocean countries and archipelago nations such as Mauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar and the Maldives, as well as engaging in naval exercises with other East Asian and Southeast Asian nations that are wary of China's growing stature, such as Japan and Vietnam. But China also maintains solid relationships with many of these countries — ties that, in most cases, bind far tighter and offer much more than what poorer India can muster.

Conflict, though, is not inevitable. It's natural for rising powers to extend their reach and rub up against each other. China and India, says C. Uday Bhaskar, director of the National Maritime Foundation, a think tank attached to the Indian navy, need to "evolve some kind of modus vivendi as they establish themselves in the Indian Ocean." But few can divine what that may look like. Part of the problem is that despite booming trade between India and China, there is little political understanding between their governments. "They engage very superficially," says Pant. "There's rarely consensus on any of the fundamental issues." Comparisons have even been made linking India and China's current rapport to the ill-fated understandings between the U.S. and Japan in the early 20th century. Though in a vastly different context, the two countries, says Pant, are clandestinely probing and feeling out each other's geo-political intentions in an eerily similar fashion.

An article in the March-April issue of Foreign Affairs by Robert Kaplan, a prominent American writer and strategic thinker, suggested that the U.S., far and away still the world's preeminent military power, could be the chief "balancer" and "honest broker" in the Indian Ocean. But that idea has been received icily in Asia, with many governments seeing the U.S. as a nation in decline, marooned in costly adventures abroad and led by an Obama administration less willing to confront the aggressive posturing of a rising giant like China. It would be better, says Bhaskar, for India and China to slowly forge a constructive pan-Asian consensus and do away with the "post-colonial baggage" that animates the current Sino-Indian border dispute. But as talk of a new Asian "Great Game" gains favor, history and geography may not be so easy to overcome.
 

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I am very happy seeing that indigenisation is alive and well in the Navy. They know exactly what went into the patrol craft and it was probably not that expensive to make either.
 

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INS Cheriyam, Car Nicobar class patrol vessel

Type: Fast Attack Craft

Displacement: 600 tons

Length: 48.9 m

Depth: 4 m

Propulsion: 3 water jet propulsion engine producing 11,238 hp

Speed: 35 knots

Range: 2000 miles @ 12-14 knots

Armament: 1 x CRN-91 AA (Naval 30mm Medak) guns

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2 x 12.7mm HMGs

ASW capability
 

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Upgrades For the Sea King Mk42B & Ka-28PL

Upgrades For Sea King Mk42B & Ka-28PL








To provide its new-generation principal surface combatants with extended precision warfare capabilities for both ASW missions and anti-ship strike operations via over-the-horizon targetting, the Indian Navy (IN) has initiated a two-pronged approach: procuring the initial 16 of a projected 60 new-generation shipborne 10-tonne multi-role helicopters; and upgrading the mission sensor suite of 18 of its AgustaWestland-built Sea King Mk42B multi-role, medium-lift, shipborne helicopters and 28 Kamov Ka-28PL ASW helicopters. Navy HQ has already issued restricted RFPs to AgustaWestland, Sikorsky Aircraft and NH Industries (part of EADS) calling for the off-the-shelf supply of an initial 16 helicopters. Contenders for fulfilling this requirement include AgustaWestland’s AW101, NH Industries’ NH-90, and Sikorsky’s CH-148 Cyclone.

For the existing Sea King Mk42Bs and Ka-28PLs to be upgraded at a cost of Rs6 billion and Rs8.5 billion, respectively, the only ultra low-frequency dipping sonar being offered for the selected helicopter is L-3 Communications’ Ocean Systems Division’s HELRAS DS-100, while low-frequency sonars being offered are THALESRaytheon’s FLASH and the DRDO-developed/BEL-built Mihir. Tactical anti-ship strike missiles being proposed include MBDA’s AM-40 Block 3 Exocet and Kongsberg Marine’s NSM. The belly-mounted search radar is widely expected to be the ELTA Electronics-built EL/M-2022H(A)3, while an ELTA-built optronic turret is favoured as a chin-mounted installation. The mission management suite likely to be selected is Galileo Avionica’s (part of Finmeccanica) ATOS-LW, which will also function as an acoustic signals processor. The 18 Sea King Mk42Bs will each have an all-glass cockpit similar to the one on board the Dhruv ALH, and its mission sensor/weapons suite will be the same as that on board the 16 to-be-acquired shipborne helicopters. Each of the 16 new shipborne helicopters will cost as much as Rs1.1 billion, and will be required to carry 15 combat-ready soldiers or two medium-range anti-ship cruise missiles.




The specified new enhancements for the Sea King Mk42Bs and Ka-28PLs include new composite main rotor blades, five AMLCD cockpit displays (two primary flight displays and three multi-function displays), an automatic flight control system (AFCS), twin AHRS for providing aircraft attitude and heading information to the cockpit display and AFCS. The AMLCDs will serve as replacements for a majority of the older style ‘steam gauges’ and provide the aircrew with a wealth of versatility and selectability in presentation of aircraft flight, navigation, and engine system information and monitoring. The AFCS will be of the 3-axis type with duplex architecture, comprising two AFCS computers and two AHRS. The duplex feature will give the AFCS a fail-passive and fail-operational capability after any first failure. The AFCS will also provide for attitude retention and automatic heading hold in a hover. For cruise flight modes the pilot will be able to opt for basic attitude retention or select to couple to heading or GPS, and altitude or airspeed for true hands-off flight. These new digital, solid-state units now allow for elimination of the older and sometimes shortlived spinning mass vertical gyros and directional gyros and their associated sensors.

The IN is also going in for five more Kamov Ka-31 airborne early-warning (AEW) helicopters worth Rs2.75 billion each, to add to the nine Ka-31s already inducted in 2003-2004.—Prasun K. Sengupta


http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2008/10/upgrades-for-sea-king-mk42b-ka-28pl.html
 

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For the existing Sea King Mk42Bs and Ka-28PLs to be upgraded at a cost of Rs6 billion and Rs8.5 billion , respectively,
What?? Those figures definitely cannot be right. Sengupta seems to be talking through his hat as usual.

The IN is also going in for five more Kamov Ka-31 airborne early-warning (AEW) helicopters worth Rs2.75 billion each, to add to the nine Ka-31s already inducted in 2003-2004.—Prasun K. Sengupta
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Seriously man where does he get these figures??
 

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Technology for bridges: Navy interested, to make warships stronger

Several years ago, the Konkan Railway approached city based DRDO - R&D Engineers - with this query: would they be able to reinforce several dilapidated railway bridges using Fibre Reinforced Polymer (FRP) composites? “When Konkan railway contacted us, we told them we were still in the process of developing the technology. Now the technology is fairly developed and the Indian Navy is one of the interested customers,” said Dr Makarand Joshi, scientist, DRDO.


FRP composites can be wrapped like a bandage on columns that have developed cracks. Once repaired with FRPs the columns are said to be stronger than their original structure - this is how oil companies rehabilitated their structures in Bhuj after the earthquake in 2002. The R and D (E) is part of a Navy project in Kolkata.


Part of this warship will be fabricated with a Fibre Reinforced Polymer, which will make it lighter and tougher; it will be easier to maintain. The Navy structure will have an additional advantage-it will be a smart structure, which will be able to communicate if it has developed a fault. Scientists will inject sensors into the FRP structure, which will be hooked up to a computer and the data will be decoded by scientists who will know if the structure develops deficiencies


“The Indian Navy ships are exposed to harsh conditions during operations; they are interested in strain monitoring structures for their ships,” said Joshi. “The challenge is to use the sensor inputs to isolate the damaged location of the structure. We have developed that algorithm,” he added. R&D scientists say they could graduate to making different parts of the ships like sonar dome enclosures or even ship hulls using FRP composites, which could replace heavier metals.


The sensors could also be made wireless and send information to a command center located elsewhere, scientists said. Joshi agreed that this kind of smart technology would be of immense use for civilian purposes as well. “There are over 150,000 railway bridges in the country which need repairs. They could be rehabilitated using FRPs and then refurbished with sensors to monitor their own health,” Joshi said. Normally, manual inspection of these bridges to find cracks would consume a lot of time and manpower. Initially, this DRDO project was aimed at attracting the attention of the Indian Army. The team here has already constructed a prototype of a 5 metre “smart bridge” for military purposes, which is also lodged with sensors. The bridge is made out of a carbon-fibre material and is 30 per cent lighter than aluminum bridges at about the same cost. “We are yet to formally present the smart bridge to the military as several tests needs to be conducted,” a scientist said. The DRDO is also looking at private partners to manufacture the bridge on a mass scale.
 

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Home minister, navy chief assess coastal security

New Delhi, Sep 22 (IANS) Home Minister P. Chidambaram Tuesday met Indian Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma to assess the coastal security scenario in the aftermath of the Nov 26 Mumbai terrorist attacks.
“The navy chief met the home minister today. A review of coastal security was on the agenda,” said an Indian Navy official.

Post the Mumbai terror attack, the navy has been made the nodal agency for coastal security and it has been working with the home ministry for better synergy in the area.

This was one of a series of meetings that have been taking place among the officials of the home and defence ministries for coordination.

The Nov 26-29, 2008, attacks at key spots in Mumbai were mounted by 10 terrorists from Pakistan who entered the city using the sea route. The mayhem, which claimed more than 170 lives, has put the focus on coastal security.

After the attack, blame was put on multiple security agencies like the coastal police, Coast Guard and the navy.
 

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India Embraces The Kilo Klub


September 20, 2009: India is having four more of its ten Kilo class submarines equipped with the Russian 3M54 ("Klub") anti-ship missiles. Only two Indian Kilo boats currently have the Klub, and that was only after some troublesome testing.

Last year, India finally accepted the Russian refurbishment of one of its Russian made Kilo submarines, the INS Sindhuvijay. The year before, India had refused to accept the refurbished Kilo because of repeated failures of the subs Klub missiles it was not equipped with. The Indian sub had test fired six Klubs in late 2007, and all failed. The Russians had no explanation for the failures. That boat had been in Russia for over two years, for $80 million worth of upgrades and repairs. India refused to pay, or take back the sub, until Russia fixed the problems with the missiles. This the Russians eventually did, and there were several successful Klub launches a year ago. India has had four of its Kilo class boats refurbished in Russia.

The Klub missile is a key weapon for the Kilo. Weighing two tons, and fired from a 533mm (21 inch) torpedo tube, the 3M54 has a 440 pound warhead. The anti-ship version has a range of 300 kilometers, and speeds up to 3,000 kilometers an hour during its last minute or so of flight. There is also an air launched and ship launched version. A land attack version does away with the high speed final approach feature, and has an 880 pound warhead.

What makes the 3M54 particularly dangerous against ships is its final approach, which begins when the missile is about 15 kilometers from its target. Up to that point, the missile travels at an altitude of about a hundred feet. This makes the missile more difficult to detect. The "high speed approach" (via the use of additional rockets) means that it covers that last fifteen kilometers in less than twenty seconds. This makes it difficult for current anti-missile weapons to take it down.


The 3M54 is similar to earlier, Cold War era Russian anti-ship missiles, like the 3M80 ("Sunburn"), which has a larger warhead (660 pounds) and shorter range (120 kilometers.) The 3M80 was still in development at the end of the Cold War, and was finally put into service about a decade ago. Even older (it entered service in the 1980s) is the P700 ("Shipwreck"), with a 550 kilometers range and 1,650 pound warhead.

All these missiles are considered "carrier killers," but it's not known how many of them would have to hit a carrier to knock it out of action, much less sink it. Moreover, Russian missiles have little combat experience, and a reputation for erratic performance. Quality control was never a Soviet strength, but the Russians are getting better, at least in the civilian sector. The military manufacturers appear to have been slower to adapt.

India plans to use the Klub against Pakistani, or Chinese, ships in any future conflict.

Submarines: India Embraces The Kilo Klub
 

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hi
that good news for our force
when this will come India

we must have to increase the speed of modernization of our force

jai hind
 

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Indian Naval ship INS Bedi decommissioned

After having served the Navy for over 30 years, the Indian Naval Ship INS Bedi was today decommissioned at Naval Dockyard in south Mumbai.

Rear Admiral Sunil Lanba, Flag Officer Commanding Maharshtra and Gujarat Area, hauled down the Naval Ensign and lowered the decommissioning pennant, bidding adieu to the ship.

Bedi, the third ship of the 19 Mine Counter Measure Squadron based in Mumbai, was acquired from the erstwhile Soviet Union and commissioned at Riga in USSR on April 27,1959 by I K Gujaral, the then Ambassador of India to USSR, with Lieutenant Commander S N Chopra as her first Captain.

With her motto as "Lead to protect", the ship was entrusted with the daunting task of going into 'harm's way' to clear the channel off mines, thus making way for the formidable warships of the Navy to pass safely.
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Now, Navy gets UAVs to counter sea threat- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

Ten months ago Ajmal Kasav and his gang of marauding gunmen exposed the terror threat from the seas. Now, thanks to the fact being brought to light Porbander airport is being equipped to keep a constant vigil over the coast.

In the wake of reports that terror groups may be plotting more attacks against India, the Indian navy has decided to deploy for the first time, an entire squadron of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) to maintain a non-stop vigil of country's maritime border with Pakistan.

The Indian Navy will deploy IAF's Israeli made UAVs, Searcher and the Heron Porbander. Both drones will now pick up on any suspicious movement on the seas.

UAVs like the Searcher and Heron are unique. They can fly for upto 12 hours and send real time images to the control room. The drones have the capability to rise to an altitude so high that they cannot be spotted easily, making them ideal eyes in the skies.

Though not armed at present, the navy says it can arm the UAVs if the need be. But for the time being, to maintain a non-stop real-time vigil is what the situation demands.

So far the Navy has used its aircrafts to monitor the coastline but now the coastal monitoring will become more sophisticated.

According to information available ,the Navy has almost upgraded its infrastructure at the porbandar airport to house the UAV squadron. sources say the squadron will begin operations by december. In fact the Indian Coast Guard has already moved a squadron of Advanced Light Helicopter Dhruv from Goa to Porbandar.
 

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Russia concludes third stage of Nerpa sub trials in Far East

23/09/2009

KHABAROVSK, September 23 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Nerpa nuclear attack submarine, damaged in a fatal accident during tests in November last year, successfully completed the third stage of sea trials, the governor of the Khabarovsk Territory said on Wednesday.

"The submarine is in a good state of readiness and there is confidence that it will be commissioned on time," Vyacheslav Shport said.

The vessel resumed sea trials on July 10 in the Sea of Japan following extensive repairs.

On November 8, 2008, while the Nerpa was undergoing sea trials, its onboard fire suppression system activated, releasing a deadly gas into the sleeping quarters. Three crewmembers and 17 shipyard workers were killed. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, onboard the vessel at the time.

Following the repairs, which cost an estimated 1.9 billion rubles ($60 million), the submarine was cleared for final sea trials before being commissioned with the Russian Navy, and will be leased to the Indian Navy by the end of 2009 under the name INS Chakra.

India reportedly paid $650 million for a 10-year lease of the 12,000-ton K-152 Nerpa, an Akula II class nuclear-powered attack submarine.

Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.

Russia concludes third stage of Nerpa sub trials in Far East | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire
 

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Pro-Qaeda Somali pirates to attack Indian ships, warns NATO

Pro-Qaeda Somali pirates to attack Indian ships, warns NATO- Hindustan Times

NATO has reportedly warned of possible attacks from pro-Qaeda Somali pirates on Indian sailing vessels and sailors, off the coast of Somalia. The attacks could take place over the next few weeks, as weather off the coast of Somalia and the surrounding the Gulf of Aden improves.

According to media reports, NATO has assured the Indian Navy of its assistance in its anti-piracy drive.

The sea surrounding the Gulf of Aden is patrolled by the navies of NATO, India and other nations, and cooperate closely with each other.
 

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Nato warns India of Somali pirate attacks- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

There are huge concerns in Indian maritime circles following a North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) warning to the Indian government on Thursday (September 24), of a major plot by Somali pirates to target Indian vessels and sailors.

The NATO leadership has infact said that there is specific intelligence available with them to suggest that pro-Al Qaeda elements among Somali Pirates are plotting to target Indian ships and sailors in the next few weeks.

Deputy Chief of Staff Christian Helseth said, "We expect to see increase in the Somali base in the next few weeks. It'll be a huge challenge to all the naval operators in the area. Certainly Al Qaeda links and probably connections with the Al Shabab which is vying for power in the South around Mogadishu."

India has already stepped up a vigil along the trading sea lanes that are visited by Somali Pirates. But following the intelligence reports NATO naval units have agreed to assist the Indian Navy in patrolling the perilious waters near the gulf.

Earlier, a NATO warship rescues fourteen Indian sailors off Somalia, a day after they were freed by pirates who, they say, had beaten them during 10 days of captivity. A NATO warship somewhere off the shore of Somalia. Emergency crews drive out to a boat carrying 14 Indian sailors.
 

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Navy wants its buildings taken off protected list - Mumbai - City - NEWS - The Times of India

MUMBAI: The Indian Navy has requested state-appointed heritage committee to take several of its colonial buildings, including barracks and office
buildings constructed in neo-classical style, off the list of protected structures.

In a letter to the Mumbai Heritage Conservation Committee (MHCC), the Navy has requested structures in Colaba's naval area be de-notified as it does not make sense to approach MHCC to take permission for every renovation, restoration and repair work. "A permanent `blanket cover' to carry out repairs in and around heritage structures would mean the Navy may not need to approach us on a case by case basis. According to them, such a permission will help in efficient maintenance of heritage buildings,'' said a member of MHCC.

In 1999, the Navy had commissioned a systematic inventory of all heritage buildings it owned in Mumbai. But heightened security measures over the years have ensured public access to some of Mumbai's oldest colonial buildings remained limited. Many of island city's listed grade I heritage structures, including Ballard Bunder Gatehouse, Heritage Hall and Portuguese Sundial in Naval Dockyard, are located inside restricted naval areas.

The Ballard Bunder Gatehouse is, in fact, the Navy's official entry to this year's UNESCO heritage awards. Conservation architects and experts, who have worked hard with the Navy to bring these colonial structures in public domain, said such a permission, if given, would hit further attempts to conserve Mumbai's oldest buildings.

"It is surprising that Indian Navy, which takes great pride in the upkeep of these buildings, has sought such a permission,'' said historian Sharda Dwivedi, who co-authored a coffee-table book on heritage structures in naval areas. MHCC chairman Dinesh Afzalpurkar said the Navy's request has to be studied carefully before any decision is taken. "It would be difficult to give such a blanket permission to the Navy,'' he said.
 

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If heritage sites are on restricted naval reservations, why don't they move naval operations away from historic areas?
 

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If heritage sites are on restricted naval reservations, why don't they move naval operations away from historic areas?
Mumbai's very crowded. It is not feasible to procure land close to the base for offices and barracks. They will have to move out of the city. They can think about that after a decade or 2 by building bases outside the cities.
 

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