Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[cobra commando]

Indian Navy inclined towards three more improved Talwar- class frigates

March 07, 2015: The Indian Navy, which has been offered three or four more 'highly improved' Talwar-class frigates by Russia, has indicated that it may be inclined to take up the offer. Oleg Shumakov, acting General Director and chief executive of the Yantar Shipyard has told Russian journalists that the Indian Navy has expressed interest in taking forward discussions on the offer. No specifics have emerged so far on precisely what the upgraded elements on the offered vessels will be, though they are likely to be in the integrated combat management system, air defence weapons and secondary sensors. The Indian Navy operates six Talwar-class frigates, delivered between 2003-2013. Like the second batch of the class delivered to the Indian Navy, the offered vessels will also sport the BrahMos missile system. Negotiations are also currently on for a contract to upgrade the first three Talwar-class frigates with a new combat management and data system as well as new generation weapon systems. The Indian Navy currently in the process of building Project 17A stealth frigates of its own, has a specified need for more frontline combatants to support its blue water aspirations.
Indian Navy inclined towards three more improved Talwar class frigates - SP's MAI

 

[akshay m]

Indian Navy inclined towards three more improved Talwar- class frigates

actully it is 4 frigates

by improved, they mean
1)KGMT (kaveri marine)
2) an indian ship based AESA radar(currently under trials)

those who are dreaming for aegis on P17A FRIGATES CAN WAKE UP

 

[Bheeshma]

There will be no AEGIS on IN ships ever. They have already decided on MF-STAR and hopefully P-17A will be like P-15a/b a modification of the existing P-17's with Brahmos and Barak-2's.

 

[karn]

Indian Navy inclined towards three more improved Talwar- class frigates

March 07, 2015: The Indian Navy, which has been offered three or four more 'highly improved' Talwar-class frigates by Russia, has indicated that it may be inclined to take up the offer. Oleg Shumakov, acting General Director and chief executive of the Yantar Shipyard has told Russian journalists that the Indian Navy has expressed interest in taking forward discussions on the offer. No specifics have emerged so far on precisely what the upgraded elements on the offered vessels will be, though they are likely to be in the integrated combat management system, air defence weapons and secondary sensors. The Indian Navy operates six Talwar-class frigates, delivered between 2003-2013. Like the second batch of the class delivered to the Indian Navy, the offered vessels will also sport the BrahMos missile system. Negotiations are also currently on for a contract to upgrade the first three Talwar-class frigates with a new combat management and data system as well as new generation weapon systems. The Indian Navy currently in the process of building Project 17A stealth frigates of its own, has a specified need for more frontline combatants to support its blue water aspirations.
Indian Navy inclined towards three more improved Talwar class frigates - SP's MAI

Heh so there was something to this news.
Yantar acting CEO upbeat about building ships for Indian Navy | Russia & India Report
Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This will probably be the new Talwars..

The frigates are based on the Talwar-class frigate, six of which were ordered by the Indian Navy and were built at the same shipyard. The Talwar class is in turn based on the Burevestnik-class frigates

Our Russian friends benefit quite a lot from the economics of scale because of large orders from us.

 

[rohit b3]

Should rather push for the Follow on Project28a Corvettes, 8 of them. They are almost as big as the Talwar Class, and like the Talwar Class has Anti sub warfare as its primary role. Though that should be complimented by 8 X BrahMos, and about 24 x Barak 8. I bet we can get 8 Project 28a at the price of 4 Talwars.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

These vessels are going to western fleet, Talwar are less sophisticated and have lower displacement compare to Shivalik class frigates ..

All Shivalik class operate over eastern fleet, Countering China specific threads ..

 

[blueblood]

Should rather push for the Follow on Project28a Corvettes, 8 of them. They are almost as big as the Talwar Class, and like the Talwar Class has Anti sub warfare as its primary role. Though that should be complimented by 8 X BrahMos, and about 24 x Barak 8. I bet we can get 8 Project 28a at the price of 4 Talwars.

I agree, P-28A based frigate with larger tonnage and better armaments should be the way to go. IN is lagging in the numbers game, this could remedy that. Private shipyards are yearning for bigger orders. L&T was supposed to enter partnership with HSL, is it done? Pipavav also entered in a partnership with DCNS who along with Fincanteri provides most of the consultancy to the IN DND.

 

[akshay m]

I agree, P-28A based frigate with larger tonnage and better armaments should be the way to go.

you talking about converting the kamortas into something like this??????????????????
she is just 2000 tonnes and see her weaponary
the only thing that is needed extra is 12 antisubmarine warfare klubs
i say hell yeah:thumb:

PS: i am not saying that we should copy the given model, i just proposed we could do something similar

 

[akshay m]

Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This will probably be the new Talwars..

if it is then
here is something detailed about it,the gun has been changed




what about the admiral gorshkov frigates. its much more stealthy ,and more modern. and a much better complement for the kolkata's of the western fleet.
he didn't exactly say which frigate did he??

Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cobra commando]

CNS reviews TROPEX : Press Release : Indian Navy

 

[grampiguy]

Since we are on the subject of importing ships, especially frigates, why stop at Russian options only? In that price, there are several worldwide options available. Two great candidates are following:

 

[akshay m]

Since we are on the subject of importing ships, especially frigates, why stop at Russian options only? In that price, there are several worldwide options available. Two great candidates are following:

no RSN Formdables Formidable-class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
are better,
more punch for their size

 

[blueblood]

@akshay m, Kamorta class - Standard displacement is 2500 tons and full displacement is 3100 tons. Talwars are enlarged and modified Krivak class with serious improvements in signature reduction, electronics and armaments. Same can done with the upcoming P-28A. Not saying it would be child's play but I think its feasible.

OTOH, I wonder why IN is not looking at other options like Type 26 GCS or Formidable class or Valour class. Not only they are much more advanced than Talwars but also significantly cheaper. Valour class (MEKO 200) cost RSA Euro 924 at the time of order completion in 2007 for 4 ships.

https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesystems.com/en/blohmvoss-mekor-a-200-class-frigate.html

 

[rohit b3]

GRSE is already bidding for the Philippines Frigate tender for 2 Frigates costing 200Bil$ each, with a derivative of the Kamorta Class. We exported a Patrol vessel to Mauritius and are building two OPVs for Sri Lanka.
Lets not talk about imports at all, unless it completely necessary.
There is really no end to imports. Buy that Kitty Hawk Carrier from US. Buy more Deepak Class Oil Tankers from Italy,etc,etc.
We need to get the best out of every Rupee we spend.

 

[aditya g]

if it is then
here is something detailed about it,the gun has been changed...

Single arm Shtil-1 launcher has been replaced by a VLS system.

It is also slightly longer, basically a longer flight deck. Also the open area below the flight deck has been faired over - probably for stealth.

Lets build more Kamortas instead of these.

 

[akshay m]

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India and France will now hold a major aero-naval exercise under the Varuna series off the coast of Goa in April 2015, which is likely to see the participation of the French nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ut-talks-still-stuck/articleshow/45341026.cms

The French fleet will include a Carrier Battle Group (CBG) led by an aircraft carrier, most likely the FNS Charles De Gaulle (R91), two destroyers, a supply ship and a nuclear powered submarine. The annual exercise is a part of Indo-French bilateral defence and diplomatic ties, which will see ships and aircraft from both the navies practicing 'cross deck' operations, mid-sea refueling and anti-submarine warfare (ASW). The Charles De Gaulle will carry the naval version of the Dassault Rafale fighter aircraft, which is seeing contentious negotiations between the two countries to be sold to the Indian Air Force (IAF).

http://www.asianage.com/mumbai/french-warships-arrive-naval-exercise-283

 

[cobra commando]

Fourth LCU for Indian Navy Launched at GRSE

Adding yet another milestone in India's quest for self-reliance in sophisticated shipbuilding, the fourth ship in the series of eight Landing Craft Utility (LCU) Mk IV project - Yard 2095 - for the Indian Navy was launched at Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd (GRSE), Kolkata, here today. The launching of Yard 2095, designed and built by GRSE was done in the presence of Vice Admiral RK Patnaik, Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff and Smt. Seli Pattanaik. Invocations from Atharva Veda were recited and Smt. Pattanaik named the ship 'LCU L54' and wished the ship good luck before launch. Speaking on the occasion, Vice Admiral Pattanaik asserted that Indian Navy has been the torch- bearer in the drive for indigenous construction of warships and acknowledged the role of GRSE as a reliable partner in pursuing the national goal of 'Make in India'. The DCNS also extended warm felicitations to the entire team of the GRSE for their significant contribution towards meeting the Navy's growing requirements of state-of-art warships. Two LCUs were earlier launched on March 12 and September 23, last year. The third LCU was launched on January 16, this year. These ships will play significant role in transportation of main battle tanks, armoured vehicles and troops of the Indian Army during amphibious operations. The ship can be deployed for maritime roles like maritime security, beaching and un- beaching operations, humanitarian relief operations and evacuation from distant islands, search and rescue operations besides peacekeeping missions.

Print Release

 

[bhramos]

3 vessels join Navy to protect offshore assets - The Hindu

Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief Eastern Naval Command Vice Admiral Satish Soni unveiling the plaque of the Immediate Support Vessel IN ISV T 39 after he commissioned the vessel along with two other ISVs at Naval Dockyard in Visakhapatnam on Tuesday. Photo: K.R. Deepak

 

[bhramos]

Fourth LCU for Indian Navy Launched at GRSE

Adding yet another milestone in India's quest for self-reliance in sophisticated shipbuilding, the fourth ship in the series of eight Landing Craft Utility (LCU) Mk IV project - Yard 2095 - for the Indian Navy was launched at Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd (GRSE), Kolkata, here today. The launching of Yard 2095, designed and built by GRSE was done in the presence of Vice Admiral RK Patnaik, Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff and Smt. Seli Pattanaik. Invocations from Atharva Veda were recited and Smt. Pattanaik named the ship 'LCU L54' and wished the ship good luck before launch. Speaking on the occasion, Vice Admiral Pattanaik asserted that Indian Navy has been the torch- bearer in the drive for indigenous construction of warships and acknowledged the role of GRSE as a reliable partner in pursuing the national goal of 'Make in India'. The DCNS also extended warm felicitations to the entire team of the GRSE for their significant contribution towards meeting the Navy's growing requirements of state-of-art warships. Two LCUs were earlier launched on March 12 and September 23, last year. The third LCU was launched on January 16, this year. These ships will play significant role in transportation of main battle tanks, armoured vehicles and troops of the Indian Army during amphibious operations. The ship can be deployed for maritime roles like maritime security, beaching and un- beaching operations, humanitarian relief operations and evacuation from distant islands, search and rescue operations besides peacekeeping missions.

Print Release

 

[bhramos]

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