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[Kuntal]

@Bleh 8 bvr, 2 CCM , 3 DT

 

[porky_kicker]

Yeah, that's right too.

I read about the "beast-mode with 8 BVRs" on some IRDW interview. Pretty sure they were talking about basically that (quite easy) 3EFT-8BVR-2CCM one.

And this 3EFT-6BVR-4CCM has exact same wing (the side with air-superiority loadout) as Defexpo models.

BUT....... say the above parameters are met & your CCM-only-on-outer-pylons point considered, then how many CCM/BVRs would a MWF preferably carry to an actual 27th-like high stakes interception CAP?
View attachment 434786CCM-8BVR-1EFT may be maximum acheivable using dual-racks, considering above pylon capacity & spacing constraints.

What's your opinion on this @Kuntal? You'll be the one to make.

Based on what I have observed till date , I believe we will see a 4 BVRAAM and 4 CCM loadout on MWF for CAP missions.

If we get anything more that will be a bonus.

IAF is a risk adverse organization , no out of the box thinking till date which can be considered path breaking . Full of hot air and mediocre at best.

Colonial mindset comes to my mind , same as army. Only Navy is truly Indian.

And I don't think they will change their habits.
Even after kargil they did not bring any changes , so it's frutile to expect any.

 

[Kuntal]

Same config. . . . . . .. . . ..

 

[porky_kicker]

For interception mission 3 drop tanks are too many for MWF.

MWF has considerable range on internal fuel.

Interception mission occurs when hostiles are heading towards or inside own ( defenders ) territory.

The above configuration with 3 drop tanks is suitable for escort missions deep inside enemy territory.

Drop tanks don't come cheap and their stocks are limited.

 

[Kuntal]

Based on what I have observed till date , I believe we will see a 4 BVRAAM and 4 CCM loadout on MWF for CAP missions.

If we get anything more that will be a bonus.

IAF is a risk adverse organization , no out of the box thinking till date which can be considered path breaking . Full of hot air and mediocre at best.

Colonial mindset comes to my mind , same as army. Only Navy is truly Indian.

And I don't think they will change their habits.
Even after kargil they did not bring any changes , so it's frutile to expect any.

This is exactly what I think. No out of the box thinking. And that applies to navy also. Stuck to same old 16 Brahmos+ 32 Barak8 config even in P15 B !

Expect these -

1. They will never deploy full 8bvraam conf in normal CAP, even if its possible.
2. 3 fuselage pylons will NEVER carry A2A missiles.
3. May be, the wingtip pylon will carry BVR. I wont believe until I see MWF flying with bvr in its wingtip

 

[porky_kicker]

This is exactly what I think. No out of the box thinking. And that applies to navy also. Stuck to same old 16 Brahmos+ 32 Barak8 config even in P15 B !

Expect these -

1. They will never deploy full 8bvraam conf in normal CAP, even if its possible.
2. 3 fuselage pylons will NEVER carry A2A missiles.
3. May be, the wingtip pylon will carry BVR. I wont believe until I see MWF flying with bvr in its wingtip

IMO you are wrong about navy

Weapons configuration on warships cannot be a criteria

Do you know navy is the only branch of Indian military whose design bureau's has churned out numerous successful designs which got produced be it warships be it submarines be it aircrafts be it missile systems.

They are the only branch who took ownership of local weapons systems from the design phase itself since decades back.

As for weapons configuration on warships where are the other weapon systems which can be placed ?

We have only at our disposal

Brahmos for AShM and land attack

LRSAM for air defence

As for the load out , P15B is a upgraded P15A , same hull so no question of additional weapon's.

IN knows their limitations well , so they try to maximise within the limitations with available local resources at hand.

If somebody says 32 LRSAMs / 4 CIWS / Jammers / decoys are not enough to stop saturation attacks then rest assured even 64 LRSAMs or even more will not be able to counter saturation attacks. The response time is very short , so short that you have less than a minute to fire you missiles from the moment you detect , identify and isolate the incoming threat. So within 30-60s how many missiles can any warship fire ?. Barely 2 to 4.

There is a limitation called the radar horizon which ranges from 40-50 km only from the ship. Sea skimming missiles becomes visible only at this range on the ship radar , provided the radar is good enough to pick it up from the background clutter of the sea.

I hope you get my gist.

People never factor all these real life issues since they lack knowledge about the same.

No BVR on wingtips too much drag and too much weight in the first place.

Fuselage points should be able to carry A2A missiles provided the designers have the foresight to include the capability but I doubt IAF will even bother about it lol.

 

[Kuntal]

IMO you are wrong about navy

Weapons configuration on warships cannot be a criteria

Do you know navy is the only branch of Indian military whose design bureau's has churned out numerous successful designs which got produced be it warships be it submarines be it aircrafts be it missile systems.

They are the only branch who took ownership of local weapons systems from the design phase itself since decades back.

As for weapons configuration on warships where are the other weapon systems which can be placed ?

We have only at our disposal

Brahmos for AShM and land attack

LRSAM for air defence

As for the load out , P15B is a upgraded P15A , same hull so no question of additional weapon's.

IN knows their limitations well , so they try to maximise within the limitations with available local resources at hand.

If somebody says 32 LRSAMs / 4 CIWS / Jammers / decoys are not enough to stop saturation attacks then rest assured even 64 LRSAMs or even more will not be able to counter saturation attacks. The response time is very short , so short that you have less than a minute to fire you missiles from the moment you detect , identify and isolate the incoming threat.

I hope you get my gist.

Yes I get it. Take those words on a lighter note. And I didn't mean it actually. Naval Design Bureau is on of the most successful among all the 3 services so as the NAVY itself. In fact in NAVY the percentage of indigenization is HIGHEST among all 3 services.

What I said is merely from a common mans perspective, i.e expecting more numbers of VLS etc. But I'm sure what NAVY plans or have planned are based on current/ future threat perception and making best use of their limited budget .

 

[porky_kicker]

Yes I get it. Take those words on a lighter note. And I didn't mean it actually. Naval Design Bureau is on of the most successful among all the 3 services so as the NAVY itself. In fact in NAVY the percentage of indigenization is HIGHEST among all 3 services.

What I said is merely from a common mans perspective, i.e expecting more numbers of VLS etc. But I'm sure what NAVY plans or have planned are based on current/ future threat perception and making best use of their limited budget .

Universal VLS can only be designed when we have a range of missiles at our disposal

And only then we will see larger no of cells aboard our ships.

We will need ship launched cruise missiles , SMART , XRSAM , AKASH-NG , SRSAM etc to enter production before a common VLS with both hot and cold launch features can be designed. There is no other way round.

Anyways work on developing technologies for the same is under progress

 

[Bleh]

View attachment 43485 Same config. . . . . . .. . . ..

Here's another side view of the design relesed by ADA, if it helps.
This shows the cross-section of the wing.

Mark 1

Mark 2

I just noticed another thing for first time... There's a bulge below the wing,that Mark1 doesn't have, just before the sharp S wing-fuselage junction.

 

[Kuntal]

Coming soon . . . . . .. . . .

 

[Kuntal]

future frigate for IN

 

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DRDO phalcon style 360 degree AWACS

 

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[Kuntal]

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[Aaj ka hero]

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Oi Kuntal bro, I am thinking of learning UI/UX course, is it good for pure mechanical type of guys like me? I mean can we learn it with not so much great hardwork? You know what I mean.
And will industry accept us? So, please reply, I will be thankful to you.

 

[Kuntal]

Oi Kuntal bro, I am thinking of learning UI/UX course, is it good for pure mechanical type of guys like me? I mean can we learn it with not so much great hardwork? You know what I mean.
And will industry accept us? So, please reply, I will be thankful to you.

I'm not well aware of UI/UX course bro. But, What I understood after googling, it's a creative stream. Requires a PC/ graphic tab/ illustration softwares like Adobe XD. If you're a beginner and never been into art or design, then it may take some time to learn how to use those softwares and later on you'll be able to use your own ideas. There are lot of free youtube courses available though.

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[Kuntal]

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