Indian Economy: News and Discussion

[Coalmine]

I don't think it's a good idea to ignore the Northern States that don't translate development to electoral results.

The biggest reason these Northern States are drawn towards cash handouts & subsidies is because their average income is so low that such freebies will actually make a difference.

Unlike the Southern states where these cash handouts or subsidies are a non-issue.

Example - TMC tried the "Laxmi Bhandar" type scheme in Goa. Where they promised Rs5000/m to every woman, where as they are only giving Rs1000 in Bengali. In WB it caused a miracle, where as in Goa it didn't even cause a dent.

If we have to fix the problem of freebie politics 1st we have to fix the poverty in North India. Ignoring which will only exascerba the issue.

As i said women needs to be given jobs, however it is. Low paid, high paid whatever , they will forget freebies

 

[another_armchair]

The in-accessibility of the new infrastructure by the masses because of their financial constraints is exactly what I am talking about it's not just about Vandebharat.

As long as the income levels improve. I don't expect infrastructure to fetch results in North states.

More than 13,000 passenger trains run in India every day.

Vande Bharat trains are less than or equal to 25 of those 13,000 trains as Vande Bharat trains don't run daily.

LOL@in-accessibility of new infrastructure. Dude, you playing around or?

 

[another_armchair]

Over 9.64 lakh vacancies in central government jobs: Overview of vacancies

Here is an overview of the current job scenario in the Indian government, detailing the number of vacancies in various sectors, including civil services, home ministry, railways, and the total number of vacancies across all government departments.

www.indiatoday.in

The Indian government has over 40 lakh sanctioned posts, with more than 30 lakh employees and over 9.64 lakh posts currently vacant. This information was revealed in the Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha during the monsoon session of 2023.

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www.thehindu.com/news/national/dopt-in-lok-sabha-says-722-lakh-permanent-central-govt-jobs-and-over-22-crore-applications-received/article65689033.ece


The Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) informed the Lok Sabha on July 27 that over 7.22 lakh people got permanent central government jobs in the past eight years. Government received over 22 crore applications for these jobs, the reply said.

Responding to a question by member Anumala Revanth Reddy, Minister of State for Personnel Jitendra Singh said that since the year 2014, as many as 7,22,311 people got permanent jobs in the central government. Mr. Reddy had sought to know the year-wise details of the central government jobs given since 2014 and the number of applications received for such jobs.

According to DoPT data, 22,05,99,238 people applied for these jobs since 2014.

The year-wise number of jobs given stood at 1,30,423 in 2014-15, 1,11,807 in 2015-16, 1,01,333 in 2016-17, 76,147 in 2017-18, 38,100 in 2018-19, 1,47,096 in 2019-20, 78,555 in 2020-21 and 38,850 jobs in 2021-22.

The least number of jobs-38,100 were given in 2018-19, the year preceding the 2019 general elections. The jobs given in 2028-19 were even lesser than those provided in the pandemic affected years of 2020-21 and 2021-22. A record 5.08 crore applications were received in 2018-19.

The minister stated that a number of initiatives have been taken for employment generation.

“Budget 2021-22 launched Production Linked Incentive (PLI) schemes, with an outlay of Rs. 1.97 lakh crore, for a period of 5 years starting from 2021-22. The PLI Schemes being implemented by the Government have potential for creating 60 lakh new jobs,” the reply said.

It added that Prandhan Mantri Mudra Yojana (PMMY) is being implemented for facilitating self-employment, under which, collateral free loans upto Rs. 10 lakh, are extended to micro/ small business enterprises and to individuals to enable them to setup or expand their business activities.

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[ParamVir]

More than 13,000 passenger trains run in India every day.

Vande Bharat trains are less than or equal to 25 of those 13,000 trains as Vande Bharat trains don't run daily.

LOL@in-accessibility of new infrastructure. Dude, you playing around or?

The argument is a double edge sward really.

You run Vande Bharat from Delhi-to-Ayodhya, build Airport in every district. Modi walks on expressways which becomes front page news. And want people to vote for development.

But when development doesn't fetch votes. People argue there are only 25 Vandebharat trains bla bla. Maybe look at the ticket price of Vandebharat. Even most of the Gov. employees avoid air travel without LTC. The toll tax on these expressways is really high.

This is what I mean when I say "in-accessibility of development".

On one hand there is development on the other hand there is freebies. And the poor fellows went after freebies only.

 

[ezsasa]

The argument is a double edge sward really.

You run Vande Bharat from Delhi-to-Ayodhya, build Airport in every district. Modi walks on expressways which becomes front page news. And want people to vote for development.

But when development doesn't fetch votes. People argue there are only 25 Vandebharat trains bla bla. Maybe look at the ticket price of Vandebharat. Even most of the Gov. employees avoid air travel without LPC.

On one hand there is development on the other hand there is freebies. And the poor fellows went after freebies only.

development vs freebies binary is a lutyens sustained narrative, it turns out a different game was going on all together behind the scenes.

 

[another_armchair]

The argument is a double edge sward really.

You run Vande Bharat from Delhi-to-Ayodhya, build Airport in every district. Modi walks on expressways which becomes front page news. And want people to vote for development.

But when development doesn't fetch votes. People argue there are only 25 Vandebharat trains bla bla. Maybe look at the ticket price of Vandebharat. Even most of the Gov. employees avoid air travel without LTC. The toll tax on these expressways is really high.

This is what I mean when I say "in-accessibility of development".

On one hand there is development on the other hand there is freebies. And the poor fellows went after freebies only.

In support of your asinine socialist-sjw-utopian argument, lets say Vande Bharat is made ticket free and first-come-first-serve kinda service, there would still be only 25 VB's with limited passenger carrying capacity. The rest would still have to travel in 'cattle class' trains and it won't stop pictures of overcrowded trains during summer+college admission rush from being posted online.

How many private company executives travel business class and stay in 5-7 star hotels when they have to pay from their own pocket?

In the end, Mudi still bad, Cumless sorry Akalless is Gawd. #MudiShudRejine #GoBackMudi

 

[ParamVir]

I don't understand these arguments. Getting a train seat is more important than getting free food ,house ,toilets ,healthcare ?

The same people who get all these facilities ran after the promise of Gov. Jobs, Rs8000 to every woman & Rs1 lakh to bank account.
People seem to weight their priorities.

 

[ParamVir]

In support of your asinine socialist-sjw-utopian argument, lets say Vande Bharat is made ticket free and first-come-first-serve kinda service, there would still be only 25 VB's with limited passenger carrying capacity. The rest would still have to travel in 'cattle class' trains and it won't stop pictures of overcrowded trains during summer+college admission rush from being posted online.

How many private company executives travel business class and stay in 5-7 star hotels when they have to pay from their own pocket?

The over crowded train was never the crux of my post. I just wanted showed the poverty ridden folks who seems to have prioritised freebies in this election.

We need a solution for these people. Or else 2029 could have the same manifestation or even worse.

 

[another_armchair]

My understanding from the above is -

BJP won fewer seats in UP and other states because of Vande Bharat trains, airports, expressways and infrastructure projects.

 

[ParamVir]

My understanding from the above is -

BJP won fewer seats in UP and other states because of Vande Bharat trains, airports, expressways and infrastructure projects.

Yes,
Instead of giving Rs 10,000 to every Woman, a Gov. Job to every family & Rs 1 Lakh to bank accounts.

 

[another_armchair]

Yes,
Instead of giving Rs 10,000 to every Woman, a Gov. Job to every family & Rs 1 Lakh to bank accounts.

Argument sounds like pure cope in Karnataka where Govt. says they earned an extra 300 crores in GST as a side benefit of the free bus ticket scheme while the Govt. spent.

The government earmarked Rs 5,015 crore for the scheme in the budget for 2024-25. A high-ranking official in the Finance Department said the expenditure next year would likely reach Rs 6,000 crore.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...or-bus-scheme-rtcs-want-rs-1k-cr-more-2951963

 

[ParamVir]

Argument sounds like pure cope in Karnataka where Govt. says they earned an extra 300 crores in GST as a side benefit of the free bus ticket scheme while the Govt. spent.



https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...or-bus-scheme-rtcs-want-rs-1k-cr-more-2951963

The only solution to me seems a ban on freebies with blanket coverage over the population, by Supreme Court. Freebies based on financial condition still makes some sense.

 

[another_armchair]

I don't understand these arguments. Getting a train seat is more important than getting free food ,house ,toilets ,healthcare ?

Free food, house, toilets(largely) and healthcare is already taken care of for a vast majority of underprivileged people by the BJP Govt and the above was bankrolled by taxpayers money.

What is freeloading junta still griping about?

 

[fooLIam]

Actually you guys got my point completely wrong. An over crowded train is not what I am trying to show here. Trains were over crowded during UPA or NDA.

My point is who are we selling the aspirations to ? The People who cannot afford it & that number is still a big percentage of our population.

A person who doesn't even have a fixed income or life savings will not bat an eye over how good their ExpressWay/Airports are. They rather vote for someone who promises them Sarkari nawkri / reservation.

North India needs heavy urbanization & industrialization to solve this problem. And I personally think textile & electronics industry in particular can play an important role in this regard.

Bhai dhindu are self suicidal Jaat that is all. As if creating those infrastructure does not create jobs and as far as manufacturing goes dindus will become servant rather than sitting 10 hrs straight in factory floor. That is how it is .if you want improve these guys and you have do it forcefully but that is pipe dream and not reality giving our circumstance. As far as crowding in general and ac goes ,it was always there specifically busy roots and on festivals season. Goverment did started working in vandhe sadharan .one need to have patience and goverment had started thinking many solution (capex being one)and now that dhindus have choosen regional thugs and congress , now will they able travel without over crowding?

Every excuse is hogwash. The economy of India will be relatively slower than past decade.

 

[RDXChauhan]

Did UP economy do better under Akhilesh than Yogi? A data-check on state’s $1-trillion ambition

UP intends to become a trillion-dollar economy within the next five years. Experts say it could be a tall order, as it requires UP to grow at a minimum of 32 percent per annum.

theprint.in

Is this true or some propaganda and inflated numbers.
Please explain I newbie in Indian Economics

 

[fooLIam]

The same people who get all these facilities ran after the promise of Gov. Jobs, Rs8000 to every woman & Rs1 lakh to bank account.
People seem to weight their priorities.

What goverment jobs .in good hold days of UPA SSC was behind its calendar by atleast 2-3 yrs. now ssc exams are conducted timely.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Crazywithmath]

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

Vande Bharat ke saath thoda capex General Bogies per bhi invest kar dete toh inlogon ki isthiti itni vikat nahi hoti.

Har train main 3-4 dibbe hi toh badhane the, per uski jagha jo the unko hi kam kar diya.


Even bogies in sleeper class been reduced.

All it resulted in public spilling into 3rd AC and even in 2nd AC.

Increasing 3-4 coaches in LHB train of max 24 coaches will result in degradation of the certified MPS of 130kmph, which will mess up the time table & time slots of the traffic in the particular rail section, adding further delay.

To offset the above problem what IR can do is increase the likes of Amrit Bharat trains

Here the ss regarding speed certification from RDSO-

Whole doc, if you're interested :

 

[Ugra Bhairav]

Increasing 3-4 coaches in LHB train of max 24 coaches will result in degradation of the certified MPS of 130kmph, which will mess up the time table & time slots of the traffic in the particular rail section, adding further delay.

To offset the above problem what IR can do is increase the likes of Amrit Bharat trains

Here the ss regarding speed certification from RDSO-
View attachment 257060

Whole doc, if you're interested :

Shall remove all the General Class and SL class to increase the train speed

Let the 90% of the population try other means of transportation, & trains particularly LONG DISTANCE trains must be made 130KM upwards

This is the only solution left

Why bother about 90% of your population our trains must be world class

Badhiya Hai.


It is very well known that bogies with open windows and doors cannot run above certain speeds

Hence only option left to remove them and replace with atleast 3AC

90% janta toh paidal bhi chal legi jaise covid ke time per chal hi rai thi