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Bornubus

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Ok, I got your point.

If you look at it from a different point, the Gorkhas were mainly from Nepal. It was called the Queen's Own Gorkha Rifles (IIRC) (sometimes it was the king's name, sometimes the queen's), but Nepal was never within the realm of the Queen. Balochistan was.

Said that, I understand what you are saying.

Culturally Baloch are Iranic people.
 

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Today's TOI. NSG is currenlty pitching to home ministry as we speak.

NSG has/had 2 choppers. 1 crashed along time ago the other one has been out of service for a few years.

Ministry has assured NSG for another set of choppers either from BSF or IAF inventory (no comment on who controls the assets) - IMO the Assets have to be NSG owned and NSG flown (own pilots) - Outfitted for equipment specific to NSG (urban requirements). Also Each Hub needs its own Helo' and a fixed wing transport. Long Range Helos (m-17s) as well as Dhruvs for actual Assaulting. the Mil is not entirely suited to assaulting a building or landing in the middle of a city.

RS is also accepting a request from NSG to cross train on Airplanes / types of private players as currently NSG only does Anti Hijacking drills on Air India planes.
 

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There is no courage in firing upon unarmed people. There is courage in defying the British Empire and risk a court-martial. That is why he is veer.
Of course he is a veer. He did not join the British Army with an intent to defy. But when the moment came, he chose to stand by his convictions and defy his superior officer and by extension, the might of the British Empire. This is why as you rightly call him, he is a veer.

Likewise, the soldiers who join the armed forces, do not join the army to die. But when faced with a situation where they need to put their life on line to fulfil their duty and save a life, defend the country, many of them do without a thought, as is their conviction. In the process, many end up laying down their lives in the service of the nation even if they did not join that service with an explicit intention to do so.

This is why, semantics aside, those who attain veergati in the service of their motherland ARE true MARTYRS.
 

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Of course he is a veer. He did not join the British Army with an intent to defy. But when the moment came, he chose to stand by his convictions and defy his superior officer and by extension, the might of the British Empire. This is why as you rightly call him, he is a veer.

Likewise, the soldiers who join the armed forces, do not join the army to die. But when faced with a situation where they need to put their life on line to fulfil their duty and save a life, defend the country, many of them do without a thought, as is their conviction. In the process, many end up laying down their lives in the service of the nation even if they did not join that service with an explicit intention to do so.

This is why, semantics aside, those who attain veergati in the service of their motherland ARE true MARTYRS.
Good post. Thank you for a very thoughtful summary.
 

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Shopian (Jammu and Kashmir),[India] June 6 (ANI): A civilian was killed amid clashes which broke out between protesters and security forces in Shopian district of south Kashmir today.

The clashes broke out in Ganowpora when the Army and Special Operations Group (SOG) cordoned the area and launches a search operation.

During clashes, one person identified as Aadil Ahmad Magray was critically injured, following which he succumbed to his injuries.
 

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Hi

Great posts there. Thanks........................

Every civilization tries to find ways to accord respect to those among them who take disproportionate and voluntary mortal risk on behalf of the the nation and a great part of this respect comes from finding a way to distinguish soldier deaths from other kinds of death. The soldier voluntarily gave his life for the nation is not the same as a civilian who dies in a car accident. It is important to make that distinction. That is why soldiers are called martyrs. Calling them martyrs doesn't imply that they are being encouraged to become a martyr, but if death comes in the normal line of duty, it is a sign of gratitude on behalf of the civilians to accord him the highest honor instead of referring to his death as a mere statistic.

Indian army is a secular army therefore it has no problem writing that Geeta quote on their barracks. Being secular does not mean shunning Hinduism. Even a Muslim soldier can derive meaning from that quote as is the case with Sanskrit quotes, they are universally applicable.

There is a concerted effort going on to discredit the Indian Army in every sphere, right from questioning the capabilities, to questioning the morality of the Army. As an extension of that doctrine, they have activated their media assets like Scroll, TheWire, IndiaToday, NDTV where the US deep state is a prominent share holder, to sow doubts and confusion in the minds of Indians. Whether they like to be called martyrs or not is a call for the Army to take. Thapar has no business cooking up some semantic khichdi in the middle of an ongoing low intensity conflict which has turned high intensity recently.
Then they get offended if we call them prestitutes.

If Thapar can use his freedom of speech to refer to Indian soldiers with whatever semantic terminology he fancies, based on his inalienable right to express, even at the cost of other people's sentiments then the people have as much right to refer to Thapar as the prestitute that he is.. The prestitutes themselves say, 'we don't care if sentiments are being hurt, as my freedom of speech cannot be vetoed by whether other people like it or not'.

Everyone has freedom of speech; The lefties think only they have the right to use theirs to cause offence and when other people start giving it back to them, they claim victimhood under the guise that it is 'inappropriate'. Don't tell me inappropriate, tell me which rule has been violated otherwise be happy to be labeled a prestitute.

We have as much right to keep speaking about Barkha Dutts two Muslim ex-husbands and Digvijay Singh's affair with the reporter and speculate about Shashi Tharoor's wife. It's about time everyone starts using their freedom of speech. I suggest that for 6 months we should use our freedom of speech to talk about nothing else but Barkha's two ex husbands. Then next six months about how Thapar's mom peddled the Aryan Invasion Theory for three decades only to backtrack it when it was disproved. These families were a deep asset of the west, planted and nurtured over the years to create confusion in Indian minds and to prevent us from taking any resolute actions.

If tomorrow a soldier gets killed, they say that the government is not doing enough. If the government spends on defense, they say that the government is wasting money on weapons when poor, hungry people are dying. If we put land mines, then they say that land mines lead to civilian casualties, if soldiers die then they ask why so many soldiers are dying, if there are no soldier casualties then they ask why do we need such a large standing army if there are no active wars being fought. It is an elaborate network of smoke and mirrors where the apex commies plant the stories and then their lackeys fan the flames and confuse the common masses.

At a time when our troops are exchanging artillery fire, this prestitute is asking if the dead soldier deserves to be called a martyr or not. Still there are people saying "our commie brother has raised an important issue, what's wrong about it, it's worth a debate. Now would be the best time to talk about it, while our soldiers are being beheaded".
 

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