Indian Counter Terror Operations Pictures & Discussions

[Kunal Biswas]

It took multiple MANPADs to down a MI17 in Kargil, This MI17 was not equipped with countermeasure, Further MANPADs are highly unreliable and give away firing position in most cases, I see their preformace in person every year ..

IA use MPVs in valley despite the terrorist use of RPG-7, Tanks are used despite presence of ATGM, Its war and their is no way to avoid casualties in war, But skill and knowledge of men with machines makes the difference, Like the pilots of MI-17 in Kargil ..

Present drones or imported which are being offered are not upto the mark to provide necessary fire power..

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Their is no restriction in Majority of the area specially Urban, their are plenty of journalist and activist who routinely take video and photos and posting them on their blog and twitter accounts, Barka dutt is going around on scooter in curfew zones too,

Indian Government does not suppress freedom speech, Which is being miss used in many ways ..

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If one handcuff a stone pelter, media makes a story out of it, If one stone pelter get shot on face with pellet gun the whole media keep its silence, Same goes of a terrorist in vally or Kasab`s one in mumbai ..

One must finish the story than keeping half for someone else to complete it ..

If we get combat helos in, they will use SAMs/RPG against them. drones OTOH are a safer option, they can probably be launched from HINDON AFB.

Can indian drones or indian acquired drones be launched from high altitude areas? For CT operations in the valley?

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Civilians have no way of knowing what is happening there. Whatever they know is from the news source they get and all news about Kashmir is tightly controlled by government agencies.

@Kunal Biswas
Sir ..My friend serving in that area told me that everything changed after Indian Army started Operation sadbhavna , before that these Jehadis were not able to touch IA .
Army was given complete impunity and even JnK government was not spared when army convoy moved

I believe these Jehadis don't deserve any mercy . Dissolve the government , introduce complete army rule and kill whosoever comes in between army and it's prey
We can't suffer loses of our best men out there serving us
Also I don't recommend Ikhwan because they are mercenary and can easily be turned against us by some indoctrination

Sir I also believe India should light up the LOC whenever incidents like this happen
Letv Pakistan also suffer casualties and they should know what lies ahead when their sponsered terrorism kills our men in uniform

 

[ezsasa]

At 10000 feet.

In case of immediate requirement to neutrilize the tangos they wont be able to reach before 2 hours.

The max speed of any drone which india posseses is not more than 300kms per hour.

Even if launched from pathankot, they would need 1 hour to reach the spot near kathua, or srinagar or even further near neelam valley.

Americans keep jets and drones circling the skies around the clock, they don't wait for incident to happen.

 

[Screambowl]

Americans keep jets and drones circling the skies around the clock, they don't wait for incident to happen.

American used to launch the drone from nearby bases, (plus their drones are fast and can go to 50000 feet) to increase the operational range and time. We have a base in Srinagar and Leh, why would they launch them from Delhi or Pathankot and Indian drones are also not well equipped and capable.

 

[ezsasa]

American used to launch the drone from nearby bases, (plus their drones are fast and can go to 50000 feet) to increase the operational range and time. We have a base in Srinagar and Leh, why would they launch them from Delhi or Pathankot and Indian drones are also not well equipped and capable.

Yup, current Indian drones may not match American drones.

Assuming we have the capability in the future: nothing wrong in launching from leh or Srinagar airport, but the chances of getting shot during takeoff and landing remain high there hence Delhi . We now know that even Pathankot not immune to attacks. During wartimes pathankot and Srinagar can be used, in peace times Delhi can be used.

By the time they reach J&K they are already beyond Atleast RPG range.

Either way drones are going to be controlled from Gurgaon or maybe even chennai.

 

[Screambowl]

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[Kunal Biswas]

Their are 10-11 airbases alone in J&K for operating cargo planes such as AN-32 or C-130J ..

Its not the service celling of Indian drone at question but payload, After Kargil there was attempt or at least on paper Indian Army and Airforces tried / wanted to use LGB to attack targets besides starfing them with rockets..

The drones presently cannot archive this ..

American used to launch the drone from nearby bases, (plus their drones are fast and can go to 50000 feet) to increase the operational range and time. We have a base in Srinagar and Leh, why would they launch them from Delhi or Pathankot and Indian drones are also not well equipped and capable.

Yup, current Indian drones may not match American drones.

Assuming we have the capability in the future: nothing wrong in launching from leh or Srinagar airport, but the chances of getting shot during takeoff and landing remain high there hence Delhi . We now know that even Pathankot not immune to attacks. During wartimes pathankot and Srinagar can be used, in peace times Delhi can be used.

By the time they reach J&K they are already beyond Atleast RPG range.

Either way drones are going to be controlled from Gurgaon or maybe even chennai.

 

[ezsasa]

Their are 10-11 airbases alone in J&K for operating cargo planes such as AN-32 or C-130J ..

Its not the service celling of Indian drone at question but payload, After Kargil there was attempt or at least on paper Indian Army and Airforces tried / wanted to use LGB to attack targets besides starfing them with rockets..

The drones presently cannot archive this ..

Can we assume that Nag will be modified and used in the lines of Hellfire missiles at some point in future?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It is intended to be used by UAVs, Rustom 1 was modified to carry 2 x helinas on each wing ..

Though designation will be different as Warhead and guidance will not be same as present helinas ..

Can we assume that Nag will be modified and used in the lines of Hellfire missiles at some point in future?

 

[pruthvi24]

does Russia posses armed Drones if so why can't why buy them ?

 

[Bornubus]

Can indian drones or indian acquired drones be launched from high altitude areas? For CT operations in the valley?

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Already operating for Years on LAC and LOC especially to keep an eye on Nubra, Turtok and Neelam valley.

 

[Amrk]

A video of Indian and US special forces joint training for CI ops:
Couldn't find the SF thread, hence posting it here

 

[Screambowl]

Already operating for Years on LAC and LOC especially to keep an eye on Nubra, Turtok and Neelam valley.

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But they are not armed.
The tangos fear armed drones and this is why they are operating there as they know India does not posses any.

 

[Bornubus]

But they are not armed.
The tangos fear armed drones and this is why they are operating there as they know India does not posses any.

Heron TP will be armed.


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[Ancient Indian]

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We need to perfect the art.
Fighting with arms should be last resort to win the foe. Only dumb and desperate people fight the war with all guns blazing when they have other alternatives.

 

[hardip]

icant see this pics....

plz....

 

[Screambowl]

Heron TP will be armed.


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how much would be the payload , 2000kgs? For checking the infiltrators it is more than enough. And we cannot use it to drop LGB across LOC during infiltration bid.

But its going to be a deadly combo of BSF/Army and UCAV to check the tangos. We are lacking in it. Hope they have atleast 3 pairs of Eitan

 

[Bornubus]

how much would be the payload , 2000kgs? For checking the infiltrators it is more than enough. And we cannot use it to drop LGB across LOC during infiltration bid.

But its going to be a deadly combo of BSF/Army and UCAV to check the tangos. We are lacking in it. Hope they have atleast 3 pairs of Eitan

I highly doubt that UCAV will ever be used against infiltration or kashmiri Terrorist in general. There are many reasons for that.

 

[Screambowl]

I highly doubt that UCAV will ever be used against infiltration or kashmiri Terrorist in general. There are many reasons for that.

But how would one know that UCAV is used. IF NTRO operates it then no one would come to know or would want to file an RTI.

 

[Bornubus]

But how would one know that UCAV is used. IF NTRO operates it then no one would come to know or would want to file an RTI.

There is no UCAV at present to begin with. Army mostly use Mini UAV like the one Pakis Shot down twice in two years or those Israeli UAV used by Army (Artillery) and Air Force.

 

[Screambowl]

There is no UCAV at present to begin with. Army mostly use Mini UAV like the one Pakis Shot down twice in two years or those Israeli UAV used by Army (Artillery) and Air Force.

yeah
but in a couple of years The IAI would deliver the first Unit of Eitan .. I hope it would be deployed at J&K