Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

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IMHO there was no need to replace the SLRs in the 90s with Insas. Back then Pakis were our primary adversary. They were using G-3s back then and still using that now as their standard infantry firearm.

Modernized SLRs and reverse engineered AKs (for CI role) should have been the choice in the 90s. If that would have happened, we wouldn't see the small arms mess that we find ourself in now. Instead, we went for Insas and imported AKs.
The decision to transition to 556 was born out of our experience in Lanka and that the rest of the western world was going 556
 

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Since SIG716i is going to replace INSAS in frontline zones, we should also get this pattern of Bayonet Mounts for them, preferebly of Picatiny Type as it's got a long Picatiny Rail at 6'0 clock position (i.e. underside of the handguards)

Geissle Bayonet Mount for Railed Handguards
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Someone please inform IA and ARDE/OFB about existence of such thing as It's just a thick metal block shaped to accomodate a compatible bayonet on it. Since SIG716i we bought has no provision for mounting bayonets and even if it had we do not use NATO pattern bayonets here in service, just make a compatible bayonet mount for SIG716i here at home that could affix INSAS pattern (or Kalashnikov Pattern, in general) bayonets on it. Our primary training still consist bayonet charge and change of firearm shouldn't be a reason for it to be thrown out of curriculum-service etc when we could use this sort of workaround on new ones and benefit from it.
 
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Since SIG716i is going to replace INSAS in frontline zones, we should also get this pattern of Bayonet Mounts for them, preferebly of Picatiny Type as it's got a long Picatiny Rail at 6'0 clock position (i.e. underside of the handguards)

Geissle Bayonet Mount for Railed Handguards
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Someone please inform IA and ARDE/OFB about existence of such thing as It's just a thick metal block shaped to accomodate a compatible bayonet on it. Since SIG716i we bought has no provision for mounting bayonets and even if it had we do not use NATO pattern bayonets here in service, just make a compatible bayonet mount for SIG716i here at home that could affix INSAS pattern (or Kalashnikov Pattern, in general) bayonets on it. Our primary training still consist bayonet charge and change of firearm shouldn't be a reason for it to be thrown out of curriculum-service etc when we could use this sort of workaround on new ones and benefit from it.
Bayonets in my opinion are an outdated concept, why stab the enemy when you can shoot them?
In my opinion a standardized sidearm would be more appropriate for our soldiers.
 

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Bayonets in my opinion are an outdated concept, why stab the enemy when you can shoot them?
In my opinion a standardized sidearm would be more appropriate for our soldiers.
Yup our standard sidearm is quite old.pistol 9mm 1a hasn't yet reached replacement level
 

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Since SIG716i is going to replace INSAS in frontline zones, we should also get this pattern of Bayonet Mounts for them, preferebly of Picatiny Type as it's got a long Picatiny Rail at 6'0 clock position (i.e. underside of the handguards)

Geissle Bayonet Mount for Railed Handguards
View attachment 80300

Someone please inform IA and ARDE/OFB about existence of such thing as It's just a thick metal block shaped to accomodate a compatible bayonet on it. Since SIG716i we bought has no provision for mounting bayonets and even if it had we do not use NATO pattern bayonets here in service, just make a compatible bayonet mount for SIG716i here at home that could affix INSAS pattern (or Kalashnikov Pattern, in general) bayonets on it. Our primary training still consist bayonet charge and change of firearm shouldn't be a reason for it to be thrown out of curriculum-service etc when we could use this sort of workaround on new ones and benefit from it.
The Indian Army Sig 716i variant does have an MLOK mounted bayonet.





https://soldiersystems.net/2020/03/24/sig-sauer-releases-tread-716i/
 

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Not only bayonet Mounting, it also need a grenade launcher attached.
For that also we can easily create a derivative of that UBGL on INSAS with picatiny compatible mounting section on it, something like this LMT one

Top - regular M203 grenade launcher, Bottom - LMT derivative from it with picatiny compatible mounting
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Bayonets in my opinion are an outdated concept, why stab the enemy when you can shoot them?
In my opinion a standardized sidearm would be more appropriate for our soldiers.
No Bayonet is an inseperable part of Infantry fighting. Bayonet fighting tactics are something which can be done even if you have surplus ammo left.
 

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No Bayonet is an inseperable part of Infantry fighting. Bayonet fighting tactics are something which can be done even if you have surplus ammo left.
Why would you in the world of self loading rifles and 30round box magazines still stab a person in close range when you can shoot him with a bullet which flies at 3000ft/sec?
And even if you come up with the excuse of your gun jamming... Your sidearm is there for that reason.
 

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Why would you in the world of self loading rifles and 30round box magazines still stab a person in close range when you can shoot him with a bullet which flies at 3000ft/sec?
And even if you come up with the excuse of your gun jamming... Your sidearm is there for that reason.
What if you don't have sidearm.
Its indian arny not us army
 

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Why would you in the world of self loading rifles and 30round box magazines still stab a person in close range when you can shoot him with a bullet which flies at 3000ft/sec?
And even if you come up with the excuse of your gun jamming... Your sidearm is there for that reason.
Do you have any of your family members in the army? If yes then ask about a Bayonet to them. A Bayonet is a bayonet.
 

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