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Last month at the Army’s Chanakya Dialogue a former Navy chief said that former CNS Admiral Karamvir Singh had rejected, in writing, the draft Agniveer scheme. Despite this, the government’s manipulation of incumbent service chiefs in praising the Agniveer project is astounding. What no government or military official has revealed is the stalemate over recruitment of Nepali Gorkha Agniveers since June 2022 and the Covid embargo period. Had General Rawat, a second generation Gorkha officer been alive, Agniveer in its current avatar would not have materialised.
I spent the last month in Pokhara, Nepal, the heartland of Nepal Domiciled Gorkhas (NDG) recruitment, interacting with ex-servicemen and other stakeholders. Not a single NDG has been recruited or become an Agniveer for nearly four years. Nepal has not communicated any reason for not subscribing to the Agniveer project.

General Manoj Pandey said this on Gorkha recruitment: “If they don’t decide soon their vacancies will be given to others”. As there has been no recruitment for four years, a shortfall in Gorkha regiment is being made up by Kumaonis, Garhwalis and now Nagas while other tribes are being considered. General Pande is also mulling over reducing Gorkha battalions. Indian Domiciled Gorkhas who constitute 40% of recruitment are not a match for NDGs. In 2017, 6/1 Gorkha Rifles was raised comprising 100% IDGs. It has become difficult now to preserve 6/1 GR’s IDG sanctity and content as few IDGs meet the qualitative requirements (QRs) even after lowering standards and fewer are available. So the plan to fill up NDG shortfall with IDGs is a non-starter.

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Ashok K. Mehta, a major general, is a founding member of the erstwhile Defence Planning Staff now the Integrated Defence Staff.
 

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I spent the last month in Pokhara, Nepal, the heartland of Nepal Domiciled Gorkhas (NDG) recruitment, interacting with ex-servicemen and other stakeholders. Not a single NDG has been recruited or become an Agniveer for nearly four years. Nepal has not communicated any reason for not subscribing to the Agniveer project.

General Manoj Pandey said this on Gorkha recruitment: “If they don’t decide soon their vacancies will be given to others”. As there has been no recruitment for four years, a shortfall in Gorkha regiment is being made up by Kumaonis, Garhwalis and now Nagas while other tribes are being considered. General Pande is also mulling over reducing Gorkha battalions. Indian Domiciled Gorkhas who constitute 40% of recruitment are not a match for NDGs. In 2017, 6/1 Gorkha Rifles was raised comprising 100% IDGs. It has become difficult now to preserve 6/1 GR’s IDG sanctity and content as few IDGs meet the qualitative requirements (QRs) even after lowering standards and fewer are available. So the plan to fill up NDG shortfall with IDGs is a non-starter.

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Ashok K. Mehta, a major general, is a founding member of the erstwhile Defence Planning Staff now the Integrated Defence Staff.
Interesting how misleading, anti-govt articles & writers have suddenly cropped up & peddling fake narratives.

Few facts to set this straight -
  • Even before Agniveer, Nepal govt. essentially stonewalled Nepalese recruitment in Indian Army because that was the pre-condition to smooch China's ass.

  • With Agniveer which is again, I agree is highly controversial, Nepal flat-out refused to send any Nepalese to Indian army. This is of course, just a convinient excuse, Nepalese communist govt. just wants to sell its country to China.

  • Just FYI, we slowed down Nepalese Gorkha recruitment a while back. India has enough Gorkha natives (in Darjeeling, Sikkim and Uttrakhand) to fill the vacancies, and that is happening. Moreover, long gone are the days of single-ethnicity regiments. All regiments are mixed now.
 

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I spent the last month in Pokhara, Nepal, the heartland of Nepal Domiciled Gorkhas (NDG) recruitment, interacting with ex-servicemen and other stakeholders. Not a single NDG has been recruited or become an Agniveer for nearly four years. Nepal has not communicated any reason for not subscribing to the Agniveer project.

General Manoj Pandey said this on Gorkha recruitment: “If they don’t decide soon their vacancies will be given to others”. As there has been no recruitment for four years, a shortfall in Gorkha regiment is being made up by Kumaonis, Garhwalis and now Nagas while other tribes are being considered. General Pande is also mulling over reducing Gorkha battalions. Indian Domiciled Gorkhas who constitute 40% of recruitment are not a match for NDGs. In 2017, 6/1 Gorkha Rifles was raised comprising 100% IDGs. It has become difficult now to preserve 6/1 GR’s IDG sanctity and content as few IDGs meet the qualitative requirements (QRs) even after lowering standards and fewer are available. So the plan to fill up NDG shortfall with IDGs is a non-starter.

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Ashok K. Mehta, a major general, is a founding member of the erstwhile Defence Planning Staff now the Integrated Defence Staff.
I don't understand army's love for few ethnic races and I am being very blunt.
if you don't find gorkhas fill them up with Biharis and train them like dogs.
which sector will they fail ?
 

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I spent the last month in Pokhara, Nepal, the heartland of Nepal Domiciled Gorkhas (NDG) recruitment, interacting with ex-servicemen and other stakeholders. Not a single NDG has been recruited or become an Agniveer for nearly four years. Nepal has not communicated any reason for not subscribing to the Agniveer project.

General Manoj Pandey said this on Gorkha recruitment: “If they don’t decide soon their vacancies will be given to others”. As there has been no recruitment for four years, a shortfall in Gorkha regiment is being made up by Kumaonis, Garhwalis and now Nagas while other tribes are being considered. General Pande is also mulling over reducing Gorkha battalions. Indian Domiciled Gorkhas who constitute 40% of recruitment are not a match for NDGs. In 2017, 6/1 Gorkha Rifles was raised comprising 100% IDGs. It has become difficult now to preserve 6/1 GR’s IDG sanctity and content as few IDGs meet the qualitative requirements (QRs) even after lowering standards and fewer are available. So the plan to fill up NDG shortfall with IDGs is a non-starter.

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Ashok K. Mehta, a major general, is a founding member of the erstwhile Defence Planning Staff now the Integrated Defence Staff.
I've read this guy's takes previously. He has been writing articles regurgitating the same stuff in different places. Here's just a few of them in a phony outlet "SriLanka Guardian".




Although one wonders, why is he doing so much RR and bangle breaking over gurkha's. Is someone paying/lobbying him to write all this or is this his deep personal conviction. IDK. Either way, these (un)generals esp. in the army have long been averse and stubborn towards any kind of reform. So, its now playing out in public.
 

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Agniveer,
R&D spending on AI by US/CHINA.

Does our country even have any hope to reach where china or us have?
I mean at this point it’s just not political fault just see the all the resistance to change from mango man ,British era institutions and ensuing tool kit protest. I would say if one want to china or usa than one would also need leaders like deng or Abraham Lincoln etc who would shove down reform down the throat.
 

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"It has become difficult now to preserve 6/1 GR’s IDG sanctity and content as few IDGs meet the qualitative requirements (QRs) even after lowering standards and fewer are available"

 

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Indian Army Gears Up for Al-Powered Land Robots: Offensive and Defensive Prowess
 

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"Drills planned to be rehearsed during exercise 'Desert Cyclone include establishment of a joint surveillance centre, cordon and search operation, domination of built-up area and heliborne operations," the Army said.

 

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"Drills planned to be rehearsed during exercise 'Desert Cyclone include establishment of a joint surveillance centre, cordon and search operation, domination of built-up area and heliborne operations," the Army said.

So that they can bring back their runaway Princess on their own.
( Sorry could not help it , I know it was done by marcos of NAVY.)
 

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The swords are not katana , nah they are shin gunto .
Shin gunto was mass produced japnese officers sword in WW2 .
And it has probably the highest amount beheading innocent civilians to its credit.
They had tournaments about who could behead ,100 guys first.
Guys could be kids , women , old people, disabled etc.
 

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The only army fighting a real war is Russia, their experience can be of great help. We can learn a lot from them. It is with them that we should up training cycle be it armoured, snipers, drones etc.
Aussies actually can learn from us, its not the other way.
 
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