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Dark Sorrow

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‘Can these be used in the mountains to neutralize Chinese HIMSAR and their Light Tanks which they have positioned in the LAC in Ladakh?
Simple answer : No.
Detailed Answer : Its extremely complicated and will be very difficult.
PHL-16 and Weishi Rockets PLAGF's equivalent of HIMARs has a range of 70-340km (depending on rockets).
Most of these current drones will have maximum range of 100km.
Bigger problem will be the PRC's anti-drone system deployed in the area of operation.
For swarm drones to be effective they need to be present in large number and the UAV's infrastructure will be targeted by enemy artillery.
We are currently testing of UAV that can operate at high altitude.
 

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Simple answer : No.
Detailed Answer : Its extremely complicated and will be very difficult.
PHL-16 and Weishi Rockets PLAGF's equivalent of HIMARs has a range of 70-340km (depending on rockets).
Most of these current drones will have maximum range of 100km.
Bigger problem will be the PRC's anti-drone system deployed in the area of operation.
For swarm drones to be effective they need to be present in large number and the UAV's infrastructure will be targeted by enemy artillery.
We are currently testing of UAV that can operate at high altitude.
Simply put long range rockets of 350 km range cannot neutralized. Simply put hope for its inaccuracies at longer range as these cannot be guided.
 

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Simply put long range rockets of 350 km range cannot neutralized. Simply put hope for its inaccuracies at longer range as these cannot be guided.
The are guided rockets. They use BeiDou satellite guidance.
 

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Are you Chinese hiding under Dark Sorrow name.
Is he wrong?
No he is not , " Chinese quality shit ,reeee" comes from the stereotype of cheap Chinese goods mostly electronics
No sir, their production quality is top notch when it comes to weapons plus they are ahead of procurement cycle, rather far ahead .
Even if I excuse the fact that india lags behind in tech, is there a guided version of pinaka ?
Imagine a guided version of it , yes they will be costly, yes rocket artillery is a area saturation weapon but the effect of a BM 21 Grad on area will be particularly less devastating than effct of Chinese phl 16 or what ever it is
 

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Is he wrong?
No he is not , " Chinese quality shit ,reeee" comes from the stereotype of cheap Chinese goods mostly electronics
No sir, their production quality is top notch when it comes to weapons plus they are ahead of procurement cycle, rather far ahead .
Even if I excuse the fact that india lags behind in tech, is there a guided version of pinaka ?
Imagine a guided version of it , yes they will be costly, yes rocket artillery is a area saturation weapon but the effect of a BM 21 Grad on area will be particularly less devastating than effct of Chinese phl 16 or what ever it is
‘Bunch of nonsense. Why is the Chinese submarine sold to Bangladesh is mostly in repair shop, why are Pakistani Jf-17 have low flying hours and many other Chinese weapons procurred being very cheap but poor quality. These are like refrigerators, Washington machines and air conditioners only last three years. The forgoing are not weapons but state of their manufacture on copied and reverse engineered technology. Moreover, in order to prove the quality of their weapons, they have to fight a war. The last war they fought it was in 1979 with Vietnam and lost it.

Only a China man think high of their own products.
 

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I have been accused a lot on this forum.
  1. Being American
  2. Being American slave
  3. Being British slave
  4. Old Hag
and lot of worse things but being Chinese is for the first time.
‘Who are you and why are in an Indian forum?
 

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‘Bunch of nonsense. Why is the Chinese submarine sold to Bangladesh is mostly in repair shop, why are Pakistani Jf-17 have low flying hours and many other Chinese weapons procurred being very cheap but poor quality. These are like refrigerators, Washington machines and air conditioners only last three years. The forgoing are not weapons but state of their manufacture on copied and reverse engineered technology. Moreover, in order to prove the quality of their weapons, they have to fight a war. The last war they fought it was in 1979 with Vietnam and lost it.

Only a China man think high of their own products.
Then i hope it's not us against whom they fight a war.
 

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Is he wrong?
No he is not , " Chinese quality shit ,reeee" comes from the stereotype of cheap Chinese goods mostly electronics
No sir, their production quality is top notch when it comes to weapons plus they are ahead of procurement cycle, rather far ahead .
Even if I excuse the fact that india lags behind in tech, is there a guided version of pinaka ?
Imagine a guided version of it , yes they will be costly, yes rocket artillery is a area saturation weapon but the effect of a BM 21 Grad on area will be particularly less devastating than effct of Chinese phl 16 or what ever it is
Yep, India has Guided Pinaka, recently an AoN worth Rs.8599 crore was accorded for it.
India also has analogues to the Chinese PHL-16 known as Prahaar and a tactical ballastic missile by the name of Pralay
 

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Is he wrong?
No he is not , " Chinese quality shit ,reeee" comes from the stereotype of cheap Chinese goods mostly electronics
No sir, their production quality is top notch when it comes to weapons plus they are ahead of procurement cycle, rather far ahead .
Even if I excuse the fact that india lags behind in tech, is there a guided version of pinaka ?
Imagine a guided version of it , yes they will be costly, yes rocket artillery is a area saturation weapon but the effect of a BM 21 Grad on area will be particularly less devastating than effct of Chinese phl 16 or what ever it is
The stereotype of poor Chinese quality is not due to their cheap electronics (but definitely has amplified due to it), but because of the general characteristics of Chinese items to be unreliable, made with cheap quality materials, and being fake/copycat of some original item.

This is not limited to only products, but this runs into their society. China has created replica fake cities & world wonders, massive buildings & infrastructure but with weak materials, even fake food such as plastic rice.

Also, there have been instances of Chinese equipment malfunctioning due to quality issues. Take the latest example -


Cheap Chinese tires costed Russia a great deal in the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.
 

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