Indian Army: News and Discussion

[sthf]

PLA lacks Josh as well. An Army of conscripts that got so low on morale at the heights of Doklam plateau that the PLA was forced to build shelters and helipads to keep them supplied.

I meant Josh is overrated for everyone not just India. PLA has its own demons and those demons are probably worse than India's.

 

[tharun]

Us got a dedicated team called PEO soldier to do r&d,test and filed protective systems to soldiers.
And we lack that.
They have Improved Outer Tactical Vest(IOTV), Soldier plate carrying system,Improved modular tactical vest and USMC plate carrier..coming to us we didn't even had a standard plate carrying system.

 

[13thAR]

Welcome to the forum.



You can find older structure on Bharat Rakshak. Only changes that I know of are that the infantry sections now have 2 LMGs (INSAS) and an RCL team.

RR and Assam Rifles units have 6 companies instead of 4 in the case of a regular infantry.



Maybe. PLA also has its own demons to face.

"Josh" is overrated and yes taller people do enjoy an advantage.

I agree with u sir that rr and ar hav six rifle companies ...but sir leaving aside the authorized strenght of a coy....in reality...a regular inf coy be iy ia ..rr..ar..crp..bsf...itbp is roughly 70-100. Almost a platoon short on an average...actually me aur zyada

 

[13thAR]

I agree with u sir that rr and ar hav six rifle companies ...but sir leaving aside the authorized strenght of a coy....in reality...a regular inf coy be iy ia ..rr..ar..crp..bsf...itbp is roughly 70-100. Almost a platoon short on an average...actually me aur zyada

Sir i have spent my life in NE.... sply Arunachal Pradesh....certain sectors have been witnessing heavy duty salami slicing if u know what i mean....no substantial steps on the ground...as far as i have heard in the gelling sector after some locals discovered the road cutting

 

[13thAR]

Any insights? On this topic...?

 

[sthf]

I agree with u sir that rr and ar hav six rifle companies ...but sir leaving aside the authorized strenght of a coy....in reality...a regular inf coy be iy ia ..rr..ar..crp..bsf...itbp is roughly 70-100. Almost a platoon short on an average...actually me aur zyada

No Sir necessary, brother is fine.

Yes personnel, equipment and ammunition shortages exists but they are not unique to India. There is a saying in Hindi if you understand, "Is hamam main sab nage hain". If you visit American sites they are crying over something, if you visit European sites they are crying over something else. The only people who are not allowed to cry are Porkis and Chinis.

The only question that matters is that are things going to change for the better? Answer is yes.

@13thAR Where in Arunachal?

 

[13thAR]

No Sir necessary, brother is fine.

Yes personnel, equipment and ammunition shortages exists but they are not unique to India. There is a saying in Hindi if you understand, "Is hamam main sab nage hain". If you visit American sites they are crying over something, if you visit European sites they are crying over something else. The only people who are not allowed to cry are Porkis and Chinis.

The only question that matters is that are things going to change for the better? Answer is yes.

@13thAR Where in Arunachal?

Currently under the AOR of 25 sector AR

 

[13thAR]

Currently under the AOR of 25 sector AR

Changlang dist

Currently under the AOR of 25 sector AR

But been in all the happening sectors specially in the subansiri tract...tcc ..redding taksing etc...anyone who served in that area.?

 

[Shaitan]

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[12arya]

http://www.indiaspend.com/cover-sto...ng-a-9-year-death-toll-twice-that-in-jk-33153

Maoists Kill 9 CRPF Soldiers, Inflicting A 9-Year Death Toll Twice That In J&K


Sukma: A view of the 212 CRPF Battalion anti-landmine vehicle that was blown up by Maoists in Sukma district of Chhattisgarh on March 13, 2018.

Nine Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) soldiers were killed in a Maoist bombing in Chhattisgarh’s Sukma district on March 13, 2018, adding to a death toll of more than 1,200 security personnel over nine years to 2017, or twice as much as Jammu and Kashmir over the same period, according to ministry of home affairs data.

“Incidents”–as violent encounters with Maoists are officially described–attributed to left-wing extremists have declined 60% over the last nine years, from 2,258 in 2009 to 908 in 2017.

Aside from the nine soldiers who died in the latest attack, six were injured, four of whom are reported to be critical.

#SpotVisuals from the site of IED blast by Naxals in Kistaram area of #Chhattisgarh's Sukma, 9 CRPF personnel have lost their lives. pic.twitter.com/iN4bQCETHH

— ANI (@ani) March 13, 2018

#SpotVisuals from the site of IED blast by Naxals in Kistaram area of #Chhattisgarh's Sukma, 9 CRPF personnel have lost their lives. pic.twitter.com/TNBUJh5en6

— ANI (@ani) March 13, 2018

Deaths of security forces in naxal-affected areas increased 27% over two years, from 59 in 2015 to 75 in 2017.

On February 18, 2018, two security force personnel were killed and six injured in a gun battle with Maoists in Sukma district, the Indian Express reported on February 18, 2018.

For the first time in a decade, 2017 reported less than 1,000 Maoist incidents, the Hindu reported on December 31, 2017. The decline in these incidents is because of “attrition of various level cadres of Maoists and the other to the possibility of Maoists deliberately lying low”, according to a senior official of the union home ministry.

More than 120 incidents were reported this year up to February 15, 2018, in which nine security force personnel and 10 civilians were killed, according to government data.

As many as 2,270 encounters with police and 1,356 attacks on police, including with landmines, were reported over the last nine years.

About 300 naxals were killed by security forces in Chhattisgarh over the last two years since 2016, the state’s home minister, Ramsewak Paikra told the legislative assembly, The Times of India reported on February 21, 2018.

Chhattisgarh reported more incidents (41%) and deaths (49%) than any other state (41%) in 2017, according to official data.

Over nine years to 2017, 2,811 terrorist incidents were reported in Jammu and Kashmir; 497 security forces have been killed, according to home ministry data.

The number of security forces killed in Jammu and Kashmir have also doubled over the last two years to 2017.

The year 2017 was the worst year for terror-related civilian deaths in Jammu and Kashmir in five years, IndiaSpend reported on February 14, 2018.


(Mallapur is an analyst with IndiaSpend and FactChecker.)

 

[12arya]

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...y-on-armoured-vehicles-to-use-or-not-5096876/

CRPF back to same quandary on armoured vehicles: to use or not?
In a recent communication sent to all field units, the CRPF Headquarters had in fact asked the personnel to use MPVs to rush reinforcements in crisis.

The nine CRPF men killed in Chhattisgarh’s Sukma district on Tuesday, after Maoists blew up their MPV, were returning from leave and headed from Kistaram camp to Palody to join duty. While several former chiefs of CRPF discouraged the use of Mine-Protected Vehicles (MPVs) for the forces, many have found it to be useful for operations.

In a recent communication sent to all field units, the CRPF Headquarters had in fact asked the personnel to use MPVs to rush reinforcements in crisis. The communication was sent on December 13, 2017 as part of a note on lessons from the March 2017 Bhejji encounter, which killed 12 CRPF personnel.

Among the 12 lessons listed, one dealt with crisis response: “Crisis response plan to be well rehearsed. Motorcycles and MPVs can be used for reinforcements.” It also asked troops to avoid following a pattern in movement and being predictable.

The nine CRPF men killed in Chhattisgarh’s Sukma district on Tuesday, after Maoists blew up their MPV, were returning from leave and headed from Kistaram camp to Palody to join duty.

Barely four hours before the attack, CRPF men at Palody camp had engaged in a gunbattle with Maoists. And only an hour before, a road opening exercise had been carried out on the five kilometer stretch between Kistaram and Palody.

A senior CRPF officer said, “Only after full probe will make it clear what went wrong, and whether this attack could have been prevented. Forces do take care during such movements, especially after an encounter. Generally, (CRPF) personnel take public transport in civil dress while going on duty after leave but Kistaram and Palody are one of the remotest camps. There is no public transport.

“So CRPF has no option but use its vehicles for movement —- and if you can’t hide your identity…(or) a vehicle, MPV is the best option,”.

While MPVs have, over the years, provided relatively secure mobility, and helped swift movement of forces, they have failed to protect, too, on many occasions, largely due to massive amount of explosives – at times up to 80 kg —- Maoists use these days to prepare IEDs. These IEDs throw the vehicle several metres high in the air and more occupants die due to concussion than because of blast injuries.

In 2013, then CRPF director-general Pranay Sahay was so exasperated by frequent casualties in MPVs that he asked the force not use it at all. “I have issued orders to my formations in the Left Wing Extremism areas to shun the use of MPVs for patrol and other movements,” he had said in a media interview.

His successor Dilip Trivedi also discouraged use of MPVs and, ironically, ordered them to be used only on roads cleared of mines.

Trivedi’s successors such as Prakash Mishra and K Durga Prasad have found merit in the protective ability of armoured vehicles against ambushes

 

[12arya]

https://www.thestatesman.com/india/...-massive-rescue-ops-in-tawang-1502600786.html

Indian Army evacuates 680 people in massive rescue ops in Tawang

(Photo: Facebook/@easterncomd)

The Indian Army conducted a massive rescue operation of nearly 680 people who were stuck in Sela Pass near Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh following heavy snowfall in the region.

Around 320 vehicles full of people – both locals and tourists – got stuck in two feet of snow in the afternoon of Monday as they tried to navigate the high-altitude mountain pass which connects Tawang to rest of India.

The Indian Army deployed three teams of the Baisakhi Brigade of the Blazing Sword Division to evacuate the people to safety. The teams were able to complete the operation by midnight even as temperatures were at sub-zero level working seven hours without a break at the height of 13,000 feet.

Soldiers were seen carrying many of those stranded on their backs.

All of those evacuated were brought to the rescue camp established at Jaswantgarh.

(Photo: Facebook/@easterncomd)
Among the rescued were a one-and-a-half-year-old child with breathing difficulties and a 70-year-old tourist, the Indian Army said. A Medical Post at Ahirgarh helped critically ill patients with urgent medication before their evacuation.

This is not the first that such an evacuation has been organised at the treacherous terrain. Around the same time in March 2017, the Indian Army had evacuated 127 people trapped in the Pass following a blizzard. Among those rescued at the time were five foreign nationals from Japan, New Zealand and Bulgaria

 

[WolfPack86]

Products developed by DRDO during last three years:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamINDRA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[WolfPack86]

The key projects which have been taken up in the 12th FYP are:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamINDRA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[tharun]

What is the bag that mostly hanging on the side or on the hip of American soldiers?
What does they contain

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[ezsasa]

What is the bag that mostly hanging on the side or on the hip of American soldiers?
What does they contain

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for empty/half empty mags, probably!!!

 

[13thAR]

https://www.thestatesman.com/india/...-massive-rescue-ops-in-tawang-1502600786.html

Indian Army evacuates 680 people in massive rescue ops in Tawang

(Photo: Facebook/@easterncomd)

The Indian Army conducted a massive rescue operation of nearly 680 people who were stuck in Sela Pass near Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh following heavy snowfall in the region.

Around 320 vehicles full of people – both locals and tourists – got stuck in two feet of snow in the afternoon of Monday as they tried to navigate the high-altitude mountain pass which connects Tawang to rest of India.

The Indian Army deployed three teams of the Baisakhi Brigade of the Blazing Sword Division to evacuate the people to safety. The teams were able to complete the operation by midnight even as temperatures were at sub-zero level working seven hours without a break at the height of 13,000 feet.

Soldiers were seen carrying many of those stranded on their backs.

All of those evacuated were brought to the rescue camp established at Jaswantgarh.

(Photo: Facebook/@easterncomd)
Among the rescued were a one-and-a-half-year-old child with breathing difficulties and a 70-year-old tourist, the Indian Army said. A Medical Post at Ahirgarh helped critically ill patients with urgent medication before their evacuation.

This is not the first that such an evacuation has been organised at the treacherous terrain. Around the same time in March 2017, the Indian Army had evacuated 127 people trapped in the Pass following a blizzard. Among those rescued at the time were five foreign nationals from Japan, New Zealand and Bulgaria

Have been to his area..experienced this whole place first hand...very tuff terrain and very bad roads specially between baisakhi to sela and sela to jgarh ...not latest update though..but dont think much has changed....BRO works at snails pace...govt not serious about upgradation of Border Roads Org...for ex recently the last settlement on the indian side in the upper subansiri dist has been connected to the ROI by road....from the current brigade hq to the last village on the tcc-maja axis, Bidak village, distance of 25km took 9-10 yrs after work started... a cause of concern in the eastern sector vis a vis Cheen..?

Bidak connected by road:-
https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...lages-on-indo-china-border201802141347520002/

 

[AMCA]

Army Sits On Arjun Tank Order Over Missile-Firing Capability
Shiv AroorMar 17 2018 3 56 pm

Nearly four years after the Indian Army received clearance from the Ministry of Defence to sign up for 118 of the indigenous Arjun Mk.II main battle tank developed by the DRDO, an actual order remains acutely elusive. And it now emerges that the DRDO is virtually pleading with the Army to go ahead and place the order so it can accelerate the process of moving from tank prototype to mass production. The Army, though, says it has its reasons not to sign on the dotted line yet.

The Arjun Mk.II, an improved version of the Arjun (of which the Indian Army operates 124 tanks across two regiments), was meant to be the solution to the program’s singularly tough run of luck. Last year, Livefist reported on what was only the latest in a history of hurdles (do read for a fuller picture of the project’s troubled history) that had met the project, literally stopping it in its tracks. A new report in Parliament now throws fresh light on Project Arjun’s troubles — its capacity to fire missiles at other tanks.

While the Army is said to have approved 72 desired improvements in trials that lasted from July 2012-September 2015, the Arjun Mk.II hasn’t demonstrated the capability to fire anti-tank missiles satisfactorily yet. Troubles on this front started in 2013 when the chosen Israeli LAHAT weapon failed to meet acceptance test parameters (ATP) of the Army. The following year it was virtually dropped from consideration, with the DRDO deciding to develop an in-house anti-tank missile for the Arjun. It now turns out that the Israeli LAHAT may be back in consideration with assurances of an ‘improved’ version that can meet the Indian Army’s requirements.

The DRDO has notified Parliament that it is urging the Army to release a contractual order on the premise that the Arjun Mk.II will be production ready by 2021-22, and that the improved weapon can be retrofitted by that time. The Army isn’t enthused just yet, with sources saying they are waiting for a minimum basic missile capability demonstration before proceeding to place the order.

The re-entry of the Israeli LAHAT system into consideration is significant too and presents a dilemma to the DRDO. The LAHAT has had a shot with the Arjun and failed to perform satisfactorily, but the fact that it is still even being looked at suggests time pressures. The very fact that the DRDO itself is offering up the option of either an improved LAHAT or its own ATGM for the Arjun suggests it is wary of any further delays derailing a program that has already been postponed beyond measure and memory.

The DRDO has also officially informed Parliament that its tube-launched anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) for the Arjun Mk.II is among its sanctioned projects for the year 2017-18. The laser homing tube launched 120mm missile is expected to be ready for user trials in 2018-19.

Last year, Livefist reported on an unprecedented weight reduction exercise that had been ordered by the Army, throwing the Arjun Mk.II’s path to production plan out of gear. It was reported recently that the DRDO is fighting an expectedly losing battle on that front too.

 

[tharun]

Price of bpj .............

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[12arya]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...in-kupwara-encounter/articleshow/63386216.cms

Four terrorists killed in Kupwara encounter

Representative image

SRINAGAR: Security forces gunned down four unidentified terrorists in a forest area in north Kashmir's Kupwara district on Tuesday.

Defence spokesman Col Rajesh Kalia said the encounter was triggered when terrorists fired at a joint party of the Army and Special Operations Group (SOG) of Jammu and Kashmir police in Halmatpora area. The operation was also aided by the Army's Para Commandos.

Col Kalia said security men conducted combing operations after the encounter to trace the other members of the terrorist group, adding that the bodies were not immediately retrievable because of continuous firing by remaining militants.

Sources said the security forces installed searchlights in the area to aid the searches. Three bodies were recovered, while the search for the fourth one continued till late at night.

Kupwara SSP said security forces were trying to identify the bodies. They also launched a cordon-and-search operation in adjacent forest areas, including Gulgam and Awoora.

A police officer said that a joint team of Army's 41 Rashtriya Rifles and SOG launched the operation following inputs about the movement of seven foreign terrorists in the area.