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Kunal Biswas

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How do you there are no complaints?

Secondly, how many troops Dhruv would carry and How many the MI-17 ? You think it does not matter ??
In that Case IAF provide MI-17 under Army command for Logistic duties..

The logistics problems are none to my knowledge in the field as last time i was in 2007..


Any otherwise please share..
Having said this, Willl add another information that Army is interested in CH-47 Chinook which is better than MI-17V..

The main reason Army is enhancing its Air assault force which will include PARA specialized Vehicles and Artillery so does trucks..


India Army Aviation officers are briefed on aircraft maintenance procedures by a U.S. Army Soldier as part of the Subject Matter Expert Exchange hosted by the 16th Combat Aviation Brigade, July 19-23 at Fort Wainwright, Alaska.(Army photo by Spc. Reese Von Rogatsz, 16th Combat Aviation Brigade Public Affairs Specialist)
 

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MoD approves Army's demand for air assets

Undeterred by the stiff opposition from the Indian Air Force (IAF), the Indian Army's plan to get combat air assets of its own is set to fructify. According to sources, ''the Army's demand for air assets has got the approval of the ministry of defence (MoD), which has asked the Army to bring about ''organisational'' changes to expedite acquisition and prioritise its requirements.''


Last week, during Army chief General Bikram Singh's first review meeting with defence minister AK Antony for the next two years' acquisition, the Army's demand to build a 'mini' air force by procuring Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) and improving the airlift capability in the North-East was approved.

The IAF contends that 'air assets' are 'scarce resources' that should be handled by a force with operational expertise and requisite 'air-mindedness'. However, the Army is unconvinced and feels that the IAF can continue with its larger 'strategic role' and the 'tactical role' should be left to it.

As per plans, the Army is scheduled to get its first attack helicopter developed domestically Rudra soon. Rudra will be armed with 20mm turrent guns, 70 mm rockets, air-to-air missiles and anti-tank guided missiles. Along with this the Army has plans to have at least five fixed wings aircraft for each of its operational commands.

As per the Army's plans for its aviation wing—mooted in 2007 and to be implemented over a 15-year period ending 2022—the three strike corps would be beefed up with an aviation brigade comprising two squadrons of 12 attack helicopters each, apart from two squadrons with 15 helicopters each for tactical battle reconnaissance and casualty evacuation, top army sources said.

Apart from the 1, 2 and 21 strike Corps, the Army will also provide aviation brigades to each of its 10 pivot or defensive corps, but these would essentially be in the nature of tactical lift capabilities, with some offensive elements.

At present, the Army relies on two squadrons of Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopters and Mi-17 medium-lift choppers of the IAF for testing its transformational concepts.

Defence ministry officials, when asked about the army's aviation plans, said the IAF would continue to play a ''strategic'' role while the army would acquire its air assets for a ''tactical'' role.

The Army, obviously, wants to have ''full command and control'' over the ''tactical'' operations of air assets so that it could meet its rapid deployment needs and for combat air support.

The Army is already looking at procuring 114 of the indigenously-developed light combat helicopter (LCH), which took to the skies for the first time in March 2010, and 64 of which IAF is buying.

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As per plans, the Army is scheduled to get its first attack helicopter developed domestically Rudra soon. Rudra will be armed with 20mm turrent guns, 70 mm rockets, air-to-air missiles and anti-tank guided missiles. Along with this the Army has plans to have at least five fixed wings aircraft for each of its operational commands.


Good replacement for old Lancers..
 

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Having said this, Willl add another information that Army is interested in CH-47 Chinook which is better than MI-17V..

The main reason Army is enhancing its Air assault force which will include PARA specialized Vehicles and Artillery so does trucks..

Any news on Chinook, have we sign the deal ?? or still thinking???? which is our forte???
 

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Any news on Chinook, have we sign the deal ?? or still thinking???? which is our forte???
Right now Air-force is deciding between Chinook and MI-26..

Not Army, Army is interested in chinook will buy in near future..
 

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Right now Air-force is deciding between Chinook and MI-26..

Not Army, Army is interested in chinook will buy in near future..
we all know Chinook is more versatile,agile and easy to maintained as compared to MI-26 ...
 

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20 Apaches that India is buying will be and should be given to IA as it has more uses for it being land attack close support system.
 

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IA is getting older MI-25/35 which will eat huge resource and there Spares have to be imported so does Ammo..

Rudra/LCH and MI-25/35 use different type of Weapon suits..
 

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wow!!!supercool......
Sonam what is super cool about it?

where is the Radar, long bow type that imparts real capability to an attack hepter?
which AA missile and which A Tk missile will be fitted on to it ?
Are those deployable and ready?
 

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:facepalm:

Its cool coz its cool..

About Long bow, Jam the radar and the missiles will fall, But you cant Jam the laser..
 

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Sonam what is super cool about it?

where is the Radar, long bow type that imparts real capability to an attack hepter?
which AA missile and which A Tk missile will be fitted on to it ?
Are those deployable and ready?
That's the Dhruv WSI MK 4 a.k.a Rudra. For the heli(s) it's replacing it packs quite a punch. Not sure if Rudra was ever supposed to have a Longbow type radar. Trials with the Helina are already on & I believe other PARS is also being evaluated (as a fall back/ stop-gap measure)

It has integrated sensors, weapons and electronic warfare suite using an upgraded version of the glass cockpit used in the Mk-III.
The sensors include
- stabilised day and night cameras,
- Infra-Red imaging,
- laser ranging and designation systems.
- automatic dispensation of countermeasures like chaff and fare dispensing systems.

The EW suite consists
- MAWS (missile approach warning system)
- laser and radar warning systems

The weapons onboard Rudra cover all role aspects (air-to-air and air-to-ground) include
- The stabilised and turreted high-velocity M621 20 mm cannon
- long-range 70 mm rockets (8 km)
- air-to-air missiles (Mistral-II).

Air-force and Army Variant (Roles):
- Anti-Tank
- Close Air Support (CAS)
- Combined Anti-Tank and CAS role
- Ferry
- Scout

More about the Rudra @ Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: Search results for RUDRA
 

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About Long bow, Jam the radar and the missiles will fall, But you cant Jam the laser..
Actually Kunal, the US Army decided to field the Longbow fire control radar (AN/APG-78 Longbow fire-control radar) because it was found to be more effective as it did not require the heli to expose itself while designating & acquiring targets and provided better situational awareness. The radar operates in LPI mode so it may be difficult to jam as well , also laser guided missiles would be susceptible to countermeasures.

From Janes -
The radar subsystem comprises a low probability-of-intercept Ka-band (35 GHz centre frequency) radar mounted on top of the helicopter's main rotor mast and a millimetric radar for the Radio Frequency (RF) Hellfire missile. The Longbow radar is designed to interface with the AH-64's fire-control system and provides rapid target area search; automatic target detection, classification and prioritisation; fixed and moving target detection (at 'maximum stand-off range') and missile fire-and-forget capabilities within a 55 km2 area. As such, the radar is reported to have shown a 28-fold improvement in battlefield effectiveness over the non-radar AH-64A during US government operational tests. An integrated passive radar band interferometer subsystem (designated as the AN/APR-48A Radio Frequency Interferometer - RFI) is used to locate and identify radiating targets and to cue the AN/APG-78 radar. In addition to its fire-control functions, AN/APG-78 is also noted as offering terrain profiling and air over-watch capabilities.
It would be a nice system to have (hope to see something similar on our future attack choppers), although I doubt whether anything other than a heavy attack helo (like Apache/ Mi-28 N/ AH-1Z) can sport one of these gizmos. The one on the apache is quite huge actually -



MODs sorry about the OT, feel free to move this post to an appropriate thread if necessary.
 

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The radar operates in Low Probability of Intercept mode so it may be difficult to jam as well , also laser guided missiles would be susceptible to countermeasures.
I still can Jam it even in LPI mode, Also can make out its point of Origin of radar emission, It is a new technology and not in widespread use over sophisticated war-zone yet, Only if the Radar is AESA it have some good chances other than that, Radio transmission in low detecting with ECM are jammed ..
 

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Thank You Kaustav

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Since radar can be jammed so radar are useless.. that is super cool logic
 

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Sonam what is super cool about it?

where is the Radar, long bow type that imparts real capability to an attack hepter?
which AA missile and which A Tk missile will be fitted on to it ?
Are those deployable and ready?
excuse me!!!!!!!wht is ur problm....i just lyk that chopper...n it is looking really cool.......
 

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Does anybody know how to join army aviation corps after being commissioned in the Army? what are the requirements and eligibility norms?
 

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