Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Spitfire9]

IAF is confirmed to be interested in acquiring Greece's Mirage-2000-5s, although the level of discussion is very initial as of now.

A/ΓΕΕΘΑ: Με έχουν εντυπωσιάσει οι ικανότητες της Ινδίας-Επιβεβαίωσε το ενδιαφέρον του Ν.Δελχί για την αγορά των Mirage 2000-5 - Directus

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If the Greeks no longer want them, make them an offer they cannot refuse!

 

[Blademaster]

If the Greeks no longer want them, make them an offer they cannot refuse!

offer them LCA tejas or other weapons in a swap barter type of deal or something

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

offer them LCA tejas or other weapons in a swap barter type of deal or something

They have all nato standard weapons, barter is impossible.
They will sell the mirage but ask for 2 billion at least.
Honeywell did same thing for jaguar engines.

Rather we could just ditch mirage and opt for more mk1a

 

[binayak95]

They have all nato standard weapons, barter is impossible.
They will sell the mirage but ask for 2 billion at least.
Honeywell did same thing for jaguar engines.

Rather we could just ditch mirage and opt for more mk1a

They are offloading the Mirage because they have Rafales now.

 

[Spitfire9]

They have all nato standard weapons, barter is impossible.
They will sell the mirage but ask for 2 billion at least.
Honeywell did same thing for jaguar engines.

Rather we could just ditch mirage and opt for more mk1a

I gather that Greece is trying to reduce the number of types it has in service. Reducing its fleet by one type by retiring M2K only to take on an extra type by buying Tejas Mk1A does not reduce the number of types in service.

What makes you think that Greece would want 2 billion or more for its M2K fleet?

On the tack of India dumping M2K in favour of Mk1A, Mk1A is not the type envisaged to replace M2K. Tejas Mk2 is.

 

[MirageBlue]

If the Greeks no longer want them, make them an offer they cannot refuse!

It will be the other way around..the IAF is likely to be one of the more promising customers. Mirages are comparatively harder to sell in the second hand market than F-16s. Which is why the Greeks must be sensible and keep the asking price at a level where the IAF doesn't lose interest.

 

[MirageBlue]

They have all nato standard weapons, barter is impossible.
They will sell the mirage but ask for 2 billion at least.
Honeywell did same thing for jaguar engines.

Rather we could just ditch mirage and opt for more mk1a

They won't ask even close to that amount.

The Greeks are looking to finance another buy of 6 or so Rafales with the proceeds of this sale, which would be probably in the USD 600-700 million range IMO.

 

[MirageBlue]

Astra Mk2 test firing coming in the next few months!

Interesting that the range quoted is 120-130 kms versus what was earlier thought to be 150 km range BVRAAM.

https://aninews.in/news/world/asia/india-to-test-130-km-strike-range-astra-mark-2-missile-this-year20240416204025/

 

[MirageBlue]

2 HJT-36 Sitaras undergoing testing in Goa..though these aren't recent pics as per Indranil Roy.

 

[Starlight]

Any updates on the 100+ MRFA choice and deal?

 

[mamamia12]

Any updates on the 100+ MRFA choice and deal?

IAF genrols will continue to salivate on such deal for kickbacks and commissions while GoI gonna continue not releasing funds for it and finally just like recent another 100 MK1A order, they get realisation and gonna have to settle for Tejas MK2 since its guarantee that BJP returns.

 

[samsaptaka]

2 HJT-36 Sitaras undergoing testing in Goa..though these aren't recent pics as per Indranil Roy.

What is the engine used on this ? Imported or license manufacture by HAL ?

 

[MirageBlue]

Any updates on the 100+ MRFA choice and deal?

Wait till the general elections are over for anything genuine on this. On hold as of now and till the new Govt. doesn't come in, there can be no movement on it.

 

[MirageBlue]

What is the engine used on this ? Imported or license manufacture by HAL ?

Saturn Al-55I engines that were supposed to be built at HAL. But that never happened since the HJT-36 never entered service. Those that are on the prototype and LSP HJT-36s are built entirely in Russian and imported.

This was long ago. In fact, the switch in the engine from the French Larzac to the AL-55I caused a long delay in the HJT-36 program.

India, meanwhile, has selected Saturn's AL-55I unreheated turbofan for the HAL HJT-36 intermediate jet trainer. The initial 4,000lb-thrust version will power the single-engined HJT-36, and a 5,000lb-thrust derivative of the twin-engined HJT-39 advanced jet trainer. Bench tests of the first prototype started in March last year and the engine is said to have completed qualification tests for the HJT-36 in December. Flight tests on an Ilyushin Il-76LL testbed are expected to start later this year.

In 2005 India signed two contacts totalling $250 million for development and licence production of 200 AL-55Is at HAL. Saturn will complete development of the engine and produce the hot section in Rybinsk while the final assembly will take place at UMPO. India will join the manufacturing process from the 100th engine. Saturn hopes to extend the agreement to cover production of 1,000 units.

 

[Starlight]

IAF genrols will continue to salivate on such deal for kickbacks and commissions while GoI gonna continue not releasing funds for it and finally just like recent another 100 MK1A order, they get realisation and gonna have to settle for Tejas MK2 since its guarantee that BJP returns.

Better getting home tech then foreign secound rate diluted stuff. I feel HAL, DRDO and other research organisations in and for India are up for future advanced warfare, therefore I believe, the products will be cutting edge and state of the art, when compared to products at par; available in the international market. Make in India at its finest!

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

hey guys our new bird

 

[MirageBlue]

Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam are all looking into the possibility of purchasing Brahmos missiles. Brahmos A for Malaysia and Vietnam and shore based Brahmos for Vietnam.

DSA-2024 Brahmos eyes cruise missile export to Southeast Asia

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

 

[Spitfire9]

I wonder, would the US allow LM to integrate Brahmos onto F-16? What about integration onto KF-21?

 

[mamamia12]

I wonder, would the US allow LM to integrate Brahmos onto F-16? What about integration onto KF-21?

Why would they allow it? Milking Weapon Sales is another cash cow of US MIC, they wouldn't sabotage that.