Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Jimih]

Mig-21s grounded

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/iaf-grounds-mig-21-fighter-aircraft-fleet-pending-investigations-into-last-crash-over-rajasthan20230520181114/

Why Flying Coffin

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

ALH grounded
Mig grounded
Su-30MKI, Mig29, Submarines without spares parts
Americans are unreliable
Rest of things in trials

72 years of hard work of UN Generals has brought Indian to its knees.

Current COAS will retire in next few months. In 2 years service Poor guy will be known for only 2 things
1) 114
2) Son promoted as Rafale pilot.

But on retirement day we will hear news like "Outgoing COAS revolutionised IAF"

When is he retiring?

 

[vishnugupt]

When is he retiring?

I think this year in September.

 

[mokoman]

Mig-21s grounded

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/iaf-grounds-mig-21-fighter-aircraft-fleet-pending-investigations-into-last-crash-over-rajasthan20230520181114/

wasnt IAF going to buy few mig jets . what happened to that , anyone know ?

 

[NutCracker]

wasnt IAF going to buy few mig jets . what happened to that , anyone know ?

Looks like Russia might need it for themselves.

 

[mist_consecutive]

wasnt IAF going to buy few mig jets . what happened to that , anyone know ?

Looks like Russia might need it for themselves.

There were two plans -
- Buy some more Mig-29s Never took off, govt. not even sanctioning MRCA, heck not even follow-up orders of 36 more Rafales.
- Buy mothballed Mirage-2000s Again never happened. IAF is pushing for MRCA instead of such band-aid deals to keep older jets airworthy.

But Govt. be like, jet mera beta HAL banayega ! So now we are all waiting for Tejas Mk1A / Mk2 to rollout, govt. eyes filling with pride, while IAF praying China/Pakistan doesn't attack us meanwhile.

 

[nixin]

 

[AnantS]

this is the second time i believe this has happened with apache

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

There were two plans -
- Buy some more Mig-29s Never took off, govt. not even sanctioning MRCA, heck not even follow-up orders of 36 more Rafales.
- Buy mothballed Mirage-2000s Again never happened. IAF is pushing for MRCA instead of such band-aid deals to keep older jets airworthy.

But Govt. be like, jet mera beta HAL banayega ! So now we are all waiting for Tejas Mk1A / Mk2 to rollout, govt. eyes filling with pride, while IAF praying China/Pakistan doesn't attack us meanwhile.

Had IAF ordered atleast 80 Tejas Mk1 from the get-go, they wouldn't be in the situation they are today.
Rate of production is directly proportional to the order size

 

[mist_consecutive]

Seems like it was on live practice -
- AGM-88 Hellfires
- AIM-92 Stingers
- Rocket pod installed but empty
- Longbow radar installed

 

[Cheran]

Seems like it was on live practice -
- AGM-88 Hellfires
- AIM-92 Stingers
- Rocket pod installed but empty
- Longbow radar installed

US had grounded helicopter due to crashes that killed 12 soldiers -

All U.S. Army helicopters grounded amid safety fears

Army Chief of Staff General James McConville has said that "the safety of our aviators is our top priority."

www.newsweek.com

There was also an incident (mentioned in this report) of two AH64s involved in mid air collision.

Am guessing this mid air US collision & our scenario (precautionary landing) are due to different root cause reasons.. ??

 

[mist_consecutive]

US had grounded helicopter due to crashes that killed 12 soldiers -

All U.S. Army helicopters grounded amid safety fears

Army Chief of Staff General James McConville has said that "the safety of our aviators is our top priority."

www.newsweek.com

There was also an incident (mentioned in this report) of two AH64s involved in mid air collision.

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Am guessing this mid air US collision & our scenario (precautionary landing) are due to different root cause reasons.. ??

Precautionary landings are mainly due to technical issues. US aircraft I have heard have a high level of monitoring and danger detection which warns before a technical issue can cause an irreparable crash, hence we see so many "precautionary" landings.

Mid-air collision is human error.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Seems like it was on live practice -
- AGM-88 Hellfires
- AIM-92 Stingers
- Rocket pod installed but empty
- Longbow radar installed

 

[Azaad]

Guess RR can kiss its chances goodbye in the competition to partner GTRE to develop a new TF for AMCA Mk-2 . This means the race's been reduced to a 1 horse race - SAFRAN who'd steel their position leaving us little ground for is to bargain.

The old MoD plot of dragging negotiations forever never ceases. We can't even cover our own goddamned bases & we go full steam ahead as if to negotiate from a position of strength.

 

[karn]

Guess RR can kiss its chances goodbye in the competition to partner GTRE to develop a new TF for AMCA Mk-2 . This means the race's been reduced to a 1 horse race - SAFRAN who'd steel their position leaving us little ground for is to bargain.

The old MoD plot of dragging negotiations forever never ceases. We can't even cover our own goddamned bases & we go full steam ahead as if to negotiate from a position of strength.

Hey look on the bright side atleast this happened before money was paid and designs firmed up to accept their engine .
But the marine gas turbine ? That is a single vendor situation already .. now down to 0 vendors. In the year 2035 we will read news reports about how project 18 destroyers are delayed because expected powerplant changed .. like it happened with project 15 a

 

[Azaad]

Hey look on the bright side atleast this happened before money was paid and designs firmed up to accept their engine .
But the marine gas turbine ? That is a single vendor situation already .. now down to 0 vendors. In the year 2035 we will read news reports about how project 18 destroyers were delayed because expected powerplant changed .. like it happened with project 15 a

MGT is under the aegis of GE. HAL has signed a contract with GE. GE & RR have an agreement between them.

 

[karn]

MGT is under the aegis of GE. HAL has signed a contract with GE. GE & RR have an agreement between them.

The good news keeps coming don't they.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Wisemarko]

Does anybody have any news on the Super 30 upgrade of Su-30 MKI.

Sukhoi Upgrade Poised For Takeoff -

With Russia badly hit by western sanctions, HAL to develop new avionics for the fighters Prasun K. Sengupta The Indian

forceindia.net

Interestingly, to this day, Indian Migs or Sukhois do not have MAWS!

“….the evident criminal negligence displayed by the MoD, DRDO and DARE since the previous decade has only ensured that the IAF’s MiG-29UPG and Su-30MKI fleets remain devoid of DC-MAWS fitments to this day.”

A prime example of downsides of hodgepodge integration of components without the ability. SAAB MAWS-300 is certified on Su-30 series since 2008. Good read.