Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[HawkisRight]

How much of this "Indigenous" system is Israeli ?

 

[Sir pe tapla]

Total noob here. Can someone explain why it takes so much time for induction of a plane after first flight?

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Total noob here. Can someone explain why it takes so much time for induction of a plane after first flight?

Depends on the type of plane. Fighter planes which perform complex aerdynamic manuvers, requires a lot of testing. It can even take 10+ yeras from first flight to induction. For example LCA Tejas took first flight in 2001, but got IOC-1 in only in 2011 (with relaxed parameters) and IOC-2 in 2015.

For transport planes, it can take as low as between 3-5 years for first flight to induction.

 

[Kartooz]

Total noob here. Can someone explain why it takes so much time for induction of a plane after first flight?

First flight can be considered a first step towards climbing a 1000 stairs staircase. All systems, limitations, flight envelopes, performance, failures, etc are tested thoroughly. Depending on the type of aircraft and its usage, these flight tests can take up to a couple of years if not more. It is also common for bigger manufacturers to add additional test aircraft with a simple funda that the more numbers you have, the faster it is to go through all the tests.

Also, we have not even considered flaws or defects that show up during testing. Depending on their severity they are either fixed or completely redesigned. This is also the time when end users like IAF would ask for new systems to be installed which have come up since the aircraft was first drafted on paper.

Hope this is able to answer your question.

 

[sorcerer]

Air Force To Acquire 6 'Eye In The Sky' Planes In ₹ 11,000 Crore Deal

New Delhi:
The Indian Air Force is set to acquire six state-of-the-art airborne warning and control aircraft in a deal worth close to Rs.11,000 crore with the Cabinet Committee on Security giving a green light on Wednesday.

Air Force To Acquire 6 'Eye In The Sky' Planes In Rs 11,000 Crore Deal

With the Cabinet Committee on Security giving a green light on Wednesday, the Indian Air Force is set to acquire six state-of-the-art airborne warning and control aircraft in a deal worth close to Rs.11,000 crore rupees.

www.ndtv.com

Caution:NDTV

 

[WolfPack86]

Cabinet approves procurement of 56 transport aircraft, 40 to be manufactured in India
The Cabinet Committee on Security on Wednesday approved the procurement of 56 C-295MW transport aircraft from Spain's Airbus Defence and Space for the Indian Air Force. Among these,16 aircraft will be delivered in flyaway condition from Spain, while 40 to be manufactured in India.

The Cabinet also approved six new made-in-India airborne early warning and control aircraft (AEW&C).

“Sixteen aircraft will be delivered in flyaway condition from Spain within 48 months of signing of the contract and forty aircraft will be manufactured in India by TATA Consortium within ten years of signing of the contract,” said the Ministry of Defence in a statement.

This is for the first time that a project of this kind has been approved where a military aircraft will be manufactured in the country by a private firm.

“All the 56 aircraft will be installed with indigenous electronic warfare suite,” said the defence ministry.

Apart from Tata Consortium, the project will give a boost to the aerospace ecosystem in India wherein several Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSMEs) spread over the country will be involved in the manufacturing of parts of the aircraft.

The programme will provide a major boost to the 'Atmanirbhar Bharat Abhiyan' of the government as it offers a unique opportunity for the Indian private sector to enter into the technology-intensive and highly competitive aviation industry.

Through this project, the Indian government is also augmenting domestic aviation manufacturing resulting in reduced import dependence and an expected increase in exports.

As per the release, a large number of detailed parts, sub-assemblies and major component assemblies of aerostructure are scheduled to be manufactured in India.

Under the project, around 600 highly skilled jobs are expected to generate directly, while over 3,000 indirect jobs and an additional 3,000 medium skill employment opportunities with more than 42.5 lakh man-hours of work within the aerospace and defence sector of India will be generated.

Among other details, the defence ministry said that during the process of manufacturing in India, it is expected that all the suppliers of TATA Consortium who will be involved in special processes will gain and maintain globally recognised National Aerospace and Defence Contractors Accreditation Program (NADCAP) accreditation.

Also, ‘D’ Level servicing facility (MRO) for C-295MW aircraft are scheduled to be set up in India before completion of deliveries. It is expected that this facility will act as a regional MRO hub for various variants of C-295 aircraft.

The C-295MW aircraft is a transport aircraft of 5-10 tonne capacity with contemporary technology that will replace the ageing Avro aircraft of IAF. The aircraft has a rear ramp door for quick reaction and para dropping of troops and cargo.

AEW&C aircraft
The six AEW&C aircraft cleared by the Cabinet Committee on Security would be built on the Airbus 319 aircraft to be provided by the state-owned Air India, top sources told India Today TV. Sources said that the six aircraft, to be built by the DRDO, will further improve Air Force's surveillance capabilities along borders with China and Pakistan.

AEW&C Block 2 aircraft are to be developed by the DRDO under a Rs 11,000 crore project. The six aircraft would be modified to fly with a radar that will give 360-degree surveillance capability to the defence forces. The project to build the AEW&C system on existing aircraft from the Air India fleet may also mean that India may not buy the six Airbus 330 transport aircraft planned to be acquired earlier from the European firm.

Cabinet approves procurement of 56 transport aircraft, 40 to be manufactured in India

The Union Cabinet approved the procurement of 56 C-295MW transport aircraft on Wednesday. A total of 40 aircraft will be manufactured in India.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Deadtrap]

Barmer district in Rajasthan will have another Emergency Landing Facility (ELF) on NH 68. Distance to Uttarlai AFS & NH 925A ELF (newly inaugurated) are 35km & 127km respectively.

This can further be confirmed with Survey of India Topographic map.

Overview of the airstrip. Uttarlai Air Base will massively benefit with two ELF to it's North and South. Current status of NH 68 ELF as per Nitin Gadkari - Under technical survey.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Who cares? Brazil is an almost insignificant country globally and has basically failed to level up for 3 decades now. They are a big fish in a tiny pond that’s it. They don’t have the power of even a single command of the Indian military

Brazil is amazing what are you saying stop saying disgusting things about regional allys
They are a manufacturing nation and have the Amazon rainforest without which we would all be dead

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

90% of the missile is indigenously made.

It’s operational since early 2020 in IAF, most frontline airbases including most airbases of NE and Ladakh is already protected.




Seeker and guidance system is Israeli.

Hey is this true or is ajai shukla farting again

About 20-30 per cent of the MRSAM has been developed by the DRDO, including the missile’s propulsion system that is based on a sophisticated dual-pulse rocket motor, its thrust vector controls, and electrical harness (wiring).

IAI has designed and developed 70-80 per cent of the MRSAM, including the Elta MF-STAR radar, which forms the heart of the system.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

@mist_consecutive

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

@mist_consecutive

Sirji post the link

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

If you wish to post any

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Sirji post the link

Redirect Notice

 

[mist_consecutive]

Hey is this true or is ajai shukla farting again

About 20-30 per cent of the MRSAM has been developed by the DRDO, including the missile’s propulsion system that is based on a sophisticated dual-pulse rocket motor, its thrust vector controls, and electrical harness (wiring).

IAI has designed and developed 70-80 per cent of the MRSAM, including the Elta MF-STAR radar, which forms the heart of the system.

@mist_consecutive

So how do you calculate the percentage of something? Is it by weight? Or by the number of components?

Anyway, the answer is I think it is difficult to calculate like that. As I said, Israel was responsible for seeker, guidance, and mission computer. We were responsible for booster, TVC nozzles, warhead, missile body.

The Elta MF-STAR radar is for Ships, and Barak-8 can be guided using it. For MRSAM, we use our indigenous DRDO radar (ask this in the DRDO thread if you want to know). The launcher, vehicle, integration into the IAF network, all are by DRDO.
The biggest advantage is we have all source code and technologies available to us. We can tweak and modify it according to our needs.

 

[abingdonboy]

Brazil is amazing what are you saying stop saying disgusting things about regional allys
They are a manufacturing nation and have the Amazon rainforest without which we would all be dead

I don’t know if you’re serious or not. India doesn’t see Brazil as anything other than a small player, they certainly aren’t looked at as a strategic partner.

Brazil is known for stagnation, they basically are today where they were 20-30 years ago and likely where they will be in 20 years from now. They aren’t ever going to be a world power and aren’t going to take the step up

 

[HawkisRight]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Aren't the Rafale and MKI capable to carry out nuclear strikes?

 

[HawkisRight]

Aren't the Rafale and MKI capable to carry out nuclear strikes?

Ignore the nuke delivery part ... Anyways nuke delivery will be under SFC..

 

[shiphone]

IAF introduced EL/M2084 10 years ago...

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[Abdus Salem killed]

I don’t know if you’re serious or not. India doesn’t see Brazil as anything other than a small player, they certainly aren’t looked at as a strategic partner.

Brazil is known for stagnation, they basically are today where they were 20-30 years ago and likely where they will be in 20 years from now. They aren’t ever going to be a world power and aren’t going to take the step up

They sold us jets for making awecs planes