Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Haldilal]

But sirji, isn't that a really weak Loadout for a live mission,

Ya'll Nibbiars for a Air to Air CAP Mission more than enough.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Ya'll Nibbiars for a Air to Air CAP Mission more than enough.

But AFAIK, generally CAP missions are flown with two WVRs and Two BVRs

 

[mist_consecutive]

But sirji, isn't that a really weak Loadout for a live mission,

Depends on the type of mission. Chinese are shy to escalate hence very slim chances of scenario where we will need to fire missiles.
However, what sometimes happens is that the Chinese in their trashcan jets (JH-7s, Su-27s) get aggressive, fly very close and try to ram you. So you need to carry some pointy-sticks to show you are not afraid to shove them up their exhaust.

But AFAIK, generally CAP missions are flown with two WVRs and Two BVRs

During 27th Feb & aftermath, we found out that missiles deteriorate quickly when flown in a combat mission, and many missiles were discarded like that. The chances of a jet carrying the missiles vs. firing them is around 1% in a sortie.
So the decision was taken to lightly arm CAP jets with few missiles (2x R-77s or R-73s) only.

 

[Arihant Roy]

But AFAIK, generally CAP missions are flown with two WVRs and Two BVRs

This is terrain and general area familiarisation sortie. This isn't a CAP by any stretch of the imagination.

Caps are generally flown with 4-6 aams. 6 is the most common and is the case for VVS while RAF QRA Typhoons fly with 8 air to air missiles .

This is a Typhoon on QRA .

 

[Arihant Roy]

Depends on the type of mission. Chinese are shy to escalate hence very slim chances of scenario where we will need to fire missiles.
However, what sometimes happens is that the Chinese in their trashcan jets (JH-7s, Su-27s) get aggressive, fly very close and try to ram you. So you need to carry some pointy-sticks to show you are not afraid to shove them up their exhaust.



During 27th Feb & aftermath, we found out that missiles deteriorate quickly when flown in a combat mission, and many missiles were discarded like that. The chances of a jet carrying the missiles vs. firing them is around 1% in a sortie.
So the decision was taken to lightly arm CAP jets with few missiles (2x R-77s or R-73s) only.

You are wrong here. It wasn't found out after 27th . It was always the case.

Air to air missiles and even air to ground have a limited no of hours of carriage time in hundreds of hours. After that, the missiles need to be taken off service and subjected to an overhaul. For IR seekers the life is even limited and then there's the stuff of cooling .

Western nations with small ac fleets and a relatively large no of missiles can afford to fly with 8 aam on cap and QRA duties. In our case, we load up our acs with 6-8 only when we are on heightened states of alert like during and in the aftermath of Balakot.

But even then I am not positively certain about the no of missiles we carry during such occasions.

 

[mist_consecutive]

You are wrong here. It wasn't found out after 27th . It was always the case.

Air to air missiles and even air to ground have a limited no of hours of carriage time in hundreds of hours. After that, the missiles need to be taken off service and subjected to an overhaul. For IR seekers the life is even limited and then there's the stuff of cooling .

Western nations with small ac fleets and a relatively large no of missiles can afford to fly with 8 aam on cap and QRA duties. In our case, we load up our acs with 6-8 only when we are on heightened states of alert like during and in the aftermath of Balakot.

But even then I am not positively certain about the no of missiles we carry during such occasions.

Yes, I put it the wrong way, we always knew, but it was more like a realization that, during active high-intensity conflict how quickly our armament fleet can deplete without even fighting a war (or firing a missile), so like be more conservative about ammunition.

Aftermath Balakot I have seldom seen any jet with full A2A loadout.

 

[Vinod DX9]

A challenge for all. I made an April Fool video on fictional air combat. But used real references , from films or novels....can you identify those references?

 

[Arihant Roy]

Over the icy jagged peaks of the Himalayas. Somewhere in the Northern sector.

These MiG-29UPG are on CAP. Each MiG is carrying
two R-73 Archers and two R-77 . Won't be surprised if they are the newer K-74M and R-77-1 /RVV-SD.

 

[HawkisRight]

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[sorcerer]

IAF to adopt new process to lease refuelling aircraft

The Indian Air Force (IAF), which is looking to lease mid-air refuelling aircraft, will adopt a new methodology for the process based on the number of hours of availability per year as criteria, a senior defence official said.

The IAF is also looking to lease Basic Trainer Aircraft (BTA) to fill the immediate shortage for training rookie pilots. With the follow-on contract for Pilatus trainers now scrapped, the leased aircraft would plug the gaps in training till the indigenous HTT-40 being developed by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is inducted. A Request for Information was recently issued for leasing of BTA.

IAF to adopt new process to lease refuelling aircraft

It will be based on hours of availability

www.thehindu.com

Caution: The Hindu

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[FalconSlayers]

I almost forgot that we already have the BVR edge from Pakistan when we bought more than 300 R-27ER in 2019 after dogfight. It is of 105km range outgunning Pakistani AMRAAMs by a significant 25km.

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

I almost forgot that we already have the BVR edge from Pakistan when we bought more than 300 R-27ER in 2019 after dogfight. It is of 130km range outgunning Pakistani AMRAAMs by a significant 10km.
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Par pakistan ke pass junk fighter 17 hai

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

I almost forgot that we already have the BVR edge from Pakistan when we bought more than 300 R-27ER in 2019 after dogfight. It is of 130km range outgunning Pakistani AMRAAMs by a significant 10km.
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Meteor se behter hai ye

 

[FalconSlayers]

Par pakistan ke pass junk fighter 17 hai

Their BVRAAM is only SD-10 as of now.

 

[Lonewolf]

Meteor se behter hai ye

Neh

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Aapne bhi aasmani kitab ke nashe toh nahi kiye na?

Arey sir mai to sirf puch raha tha

 

[sorcerer]

WATCH - IAF's new 6-tonne vehicle that can withstand bullet and grenade attacks

New Delhi: The Indian Air Force (IAF) has further enhanced the security of its airbases by inducting exceptionally sturdy trucks which can withstand any gun or grenade attack. The vehicles were on full show outside an airbase today.


The Light Bullet Proof Vehicles weigh 6 tonnes each and have the ability to bear any type of bullet and grenade attacks. They will prove instrumental in countering terrorist attacks in sensitive regions.


According to reports, the vehicles have the capacity to carry six Garud commandos or Quick Reaction Team members.

WATCH - IAF's new 6-tonne vehicle that can withstand bullet and grenade attacks

According to reports, the vehicles have the capacity to carry six Garud commandos or Quick Reaction Team members.

www.timesnownews.com

 

[FalconSlayers]

Ya’ll Nibbiars