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The Pilatus deal should be examined by CBI... something smells rotten in that..
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this seems to the NF varaity .....................................
Isn't that a Vampire NF.54? 29 supplied and equipped 2 NF squadrons.
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also known as the flying chapati
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Exercise Blue Flag
I blurred faces of Indian pilots.
In two pics I found where pilots were present, Israelis hid their faces,
Indians didn't. Why?I edited one of them and until IAF MCC posts unblurred pics I shall post edited one
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$10-billion fighter deal hits tech-transfer air pocket
For top contractors, 49% equity a hurdle; Rafale may get follow-on order
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 6:
India’s $10-billion single-engine fighter jet deal is believed to have hit a stumbling block over the contentious issue of transfer of technology (ToT) and equity participation. This is while negotiations are on for the purchase of more Rafale jets from France.
The two main contenders for the deal — Lockheed Martin and SAAB — have made it clear to the Defence Ministry that they will not go in for a complete transfer of technology (ToT) with 49 per cent equity participation in the joint ventures that they have inked with their respective Indian partners, sources told BusinessLine.
Under the defence foreign direct investment rules, global OEMs can invest more than 49 per cent with prior government approval. However, the fighter-jet deal has to be executed under the new ‘Strategic Partnership’ (SP) policy, and as per the norms laid out in this policy, it is the Indian entity that will have a controlling stake with 51 per cent.
The Defence Ministry is looking to acquire at least 100 of these jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF). While the US’ Lockheed Martin has offered the advanced F-16 Block 70, Swedish defence major SAAB has presented its single-engine multi-role Gripen E for the programme.
Lockheed Martin and SAAB have also joined hands with Tata Advance Defence Systems Ltd and the Adani Group, respectively, to design, develop and produce the warplanes in India under the ‘Make in India’ programme.
The issue of proprietary technology was also raised by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during his visit last month. He made it clear that ToT will come for a price.
The government is now looking at a follow-on order to buy more Rafale jets, which will be in addition to the 36 bought in September last year for $8.9 billion. The IAF is also keen on buying more of these warplanes, according to sources.
The decision to buy more Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation is likely to be announced during the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron in December, sources added.
However, the sources said, India has already informed the French that “not a single” Rafale will be bought in flyaway mode — they will be built in the Dhirubhai Ambani Aerospace Park, run by Reliance Aerospace Ltd and Dassault Aviation in the Mihan Special Economic Zone in Nagpur.
Dassault Aviation Chief Eric Trappier had recently said, in France, that the company is in talks with India for more orders.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...ts-techtransfer-air-pocket/article9945734.ece
For top contractors, 49% equity a hurdle; Rafale may get follow-on order
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 6:
India’s $10-billion single-engine fighter jet deal is believed to have hit a stumbling block over the contentious issue of transfer of technology (ToT) and equity participation. This is while negotiations are on for the purchase of more Rafale jets from France.
The two main contenders for the deal — Lockheed Martin and SAAB — have made it clear to the Defence Ministry that they will not go in for a complete transfer of technology (ToT) with 49 per cent equity participation in the joint ventures that they have inked with their respective Indian partners, sources told BusinessLine.
Under the defence foreign direct investment rules, global OEMs can invest more than 49 per cent with prior government approval. However, the fighter-jet deal has to be executed under the new ‘Strategic Partnership’ (SP) policy, and as per the norms laid out in this policy, it is the Indian entity that will have a controlling stake with 51 per cent.
The Defence Ministry is looking to acquire at least 100 of these jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF). While the US’ Lockheed Martin has offered the advanced F-16 Block 70, Swedish defence major SAAB has presented its single-engine multi-role Gripen E for the programme.
Lockheed Martin and SAAB have also joined hands with Tata Advance Defence Systems Ltd and the Adani Group, respectively, to design, develop and produce the warplanes in India under the ‘Make in India’ programme.
The issue of proprietary technology was also raised by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during his visit last month. He made it clear that ToT will come for a price.
The government is now looking at a follow-on order to buy more Rafale jets, which will be in addition to the 36 bought in September last year for $8.9 billion. The IAF is also keen on buying more of these warplanes, according to sources.
The decision to buy more Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation is likely to be announced during the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron in December, sources added.
However, the sources said, India has already informed the French that “not a single” Rafale will be bought in flyaway mode — they will be built in the Dhirubhai Ambani Aerospace Park, run by Reliance Aerospace Ltd and Dassault Aviation in the Mihan Special Economic Zone in Nagpur.
Dassault Aviation Chief Eric Trappier had recently said, in France, that the company is in talks with India for more orders.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...ts-techtransfer-air-pocket/article9945734.ece
IAF operated three F.3 and thereafter license made FB.52. Nos. 10 and No. 37 sqn operated the NF.54
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Hope this deal is held up for 1 more year...once election mode sets in six months from 2019, no deal will happen. Also after elections, we will have more than 20 Tejas...deal would invite severe criticism. Lockheed is trying it's best to push in this deal in this window.
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Modi is not foolish to go with Lockheed's push. Tejas has already been completed and additional technology of radar, BVR, EW etc have either passed phase 1 and are in further upgrades or are in advanced stages of development. Whether planes are made or not is irrelevant. The question is - do we have the technology to make it AS AND WHEN WE NEED.
That is where ToT comes in. This was something I have been telling. It was only expected that such a deal will be kept on hold
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Lockheed Martin will be kept dangling until US is ready to provide India f-35 s with some TOT. Until then India is enjoying trolling uncle.
Meanwhile French have smelled the opportunity if single engine Fighter is cancelled so are helping India with improved LCA Mk1A.
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Don't need and don't want F35s. We have AMCA.
