Yep. The math works!18 squadrons.......... Really?
40 - Mk1
83 - Mk1A
201 - Mk2
324/18 = 18 Squadrons!!! (18 aircraft per squadron!)
Yep. The math works!18 squadrons.......... Really?
MK2 development will be complete by 2025 and production will start immediately. Mk2 will be heavily based on MK1 and hence easier to make as well as manufacture from existing LCA MK1 infrastructure.Nobody knows what will happen to MK2 by 2025-26. Also HAL has no business left once MK1A finishes production in 2025-26 as MK2 will take at least 4 years to clear all the operational clearance stages.
AFAIK, Tejas squadrons have 20 aircraft each (18 Single seat + 2 Trainer).Yep. The math works!
40 - Mk1
83 - Mk1A
201 - Mk2
324/18 = 18 Squadrons!!! (18 aircraft per squadron!)
In case you have not heard (ofc you have), we are also moving on to 5th gen fighters with an indigenous program: AMCA. So we are investing in future tech.Guys rest of world moving 5 & 6t gen planes & we are talking about MK1 & MK2 . Pls donot make joke of IAF.
We need to invest in future technolgy , in my view we should go for either PAKFA or f22 + our won 5 th project .
Govt & IAF don't need to invest time & money in MK2 in my view
In case you have not heard (ofc you have), we are also moving on to 5th gen fighters with an indigenous program: AMCA. So we are investing in future tech.
6th gen fighters are not going to be here for a long long time. Decades. Nobody has the monetary appetite for it after right after they finish developing expensive 5th gen fighters.
Nobody is making a joke on IAF. IAF is in dire need of a large number of fourth generation fighters. Its better if we meet the lion's share of that need with an indigenous fighter and some imports of Rafale. And this is why the Indian Air Force itself has committed to 324+ / 18 squadrons of Tejas fighters.
We don't have time or money to be relying solely on imports for arresting and increasing the falling squadron numbers of the IAF. Tejas is the only way forward.
MK2 development will be complete by 2025 and production will start immediately. Mk2 will be heavily based on MK1 and hence easier to make as well as manufacture from existing LCA MK1 infrastructure.
Instead of harping on about the Chinese threat, it would do us some good if we try to understand what we did wrong, and why we reached this juncture. We lack the capability to make advanced weapons because we failed to invest in domestic technology and products and instead favoured imports.Right sir we dont have time & money for experiment , we should give fighter planes to IAF under make in india . well we all know about AMCA do u know china is flying his 5 th gen planes and what about our ??
we are still testing our LCA .
Its not about ego its about national security . in my view govt should buy adance fighter planes under make in india with TOT .
Future is 5.5 gen planes & drones. we should think & act for future china is make hyper-sonic missile .we should make that one .
That is your misunderstanding. There were 53 demands for Mk1A which was released in public. In addition, there will be some other secretive demands too. The problem with Tejas was that till 2014, very little work was done due to UPA sabotaging the project. Hence, even items like FBW, weapons suite, EW etc were not yet developed. These things take time. Also, MK1 will get full FOC thi year and 2 more years for MK1A does not appear unreasonable. SO, if MK1A is complete by 2020 and production begins in 2021, that is goal reached.HAL/ADA/IAF don't understand the word "Start Immediately". MK1A was thought during 2015 and what has happened after 3 years is still not known to any one. 3 years, for just integrating AESA, EWS & reducing some weight from the airframe. And remember they have given year 2021-22 for production of MK1A, so 2015 to 2022 i.e. 7 years for integrating AESA, EWS, Re-fuel probe, weight reduction and some small stuff. While the jet will remain exactly the same.
MK2 will take at least 4 years before going for full production, so the 'best' timeline for MK2 will be 2027-28. Though I don't mind as far as they are running the HAL production line with MK1A, hence IAF must increase order of MK1A to 83+60(indigenous Engine & AESA) = 123 total.
I am not pessimistic, I am just trying to be realistic.
Show me one country which has 5.5 or 6th generation plane? USA has not even completed F35 development and it is said to be complete only by 2020. And here you are, speaking of 5.5, 6th generation. No one can answer to your fantasies.Right sir we dont have time & money for experiment , we should give fighter planes to IAF under make in india . well we all know about AMCA do u know china is flying his 5 th gen planes and what about our ??
We are still testing our LCA .
Its not about ego its about national security . in my view govt should buy adance fighter planes under make in india with TOT .
Future is 5.5 gen planes & drones. we should think & act for future china is make hyper-sonic missile .we should make that one .
Could you plz share source the first bold part to prove your claim ?That is your misunderstanding. There were 53 demands for Mk1A which was released in public. In addition, there will be some other secretive demands too. The problem with Tejas was that till 2014, very little work was done due to UPA sabotaging the project. Hence, even items like FBW, weapons suite, EW etc were not yet developed. These things take time. Also, MK1 will get full FOC thi year and 2 more years for MK1A does not appear unreasonable. SO, if MK1A is complete by 2020 and production begins in 2021, that is goal reached.
HAL is not slow but UPA was sabotaging. Without UPA causing problems, it is moving fast now and the same pace can be expected for Mk1A.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/l...parameters-delays-hurting-iaf-cag-988827.htmlCould you plz share source the first bold part to prove your claim ?
No, it was never 20016-17 as developing 53 (and some more secret items) take time.MK1 was supposed to get FOC in 2015 then 2016 then again in 2017 and now in 2018, lets see what happens. Though I think they'll get FOC by Jan-Feb 2019, at max.
HAL, ADA, IAF are all part of govt or under govt and can't be independent. GTRE chief tried to resist and he was arrested on trumped up charges and shifted out of GTRE. UPA did it intentionally and there is no 2nd thoughtsI blame the whole system for delay in LCA UPA alone couldn't do the damage. Yes, they didn't help LCA in any sense, its a reality now. But HAL/ADA/IAF should be blamed equally for the plight of LCA project.
What 53 ?? At least mention "53 improvements" so that I could understand.https://www.news18.com/news/india/l...parameters-delays-hurting-iaf-cag-988827.html
No, it was never 20016-17 as developing 53 (and some more secret items) take time.
HAL, ADA, IAF are all part of govt or under govt and can't be independent. GTRE chief tried to resist and he was arrested on trumped up charges and shifted out of GTRE. UPA did it intentionally and there is no 2nd thoughts
There is no requirement for such numbers, also by the time we'll produce 83rd MK1A MK2 will be ready for production, if everything goes as planned. But I think they should go for 83+40=123 MK1A. 83 is not large number to support pvt industry.I wish Indian air force orders 200 MK 1 a Tejas fighter jet.