India US Relations

[Azaad]

I think a quid pro quo has been agreed upon by Modi.. A welcome bold move..
If the Chinks attack India at the LAC, US [Eye of sauron] helps India with Intelligence and logistics, and probably some niche armaments, without US Armed forces shedding blood..

If Chinkoos attack Taiwan, India in turn, provides logistics support to US Navy, without shedding blood directly.. as US China war will be a naval war..
No to alliance.. But, yes to scratching each others backs..

It's a huge move as , if conflict breaks out over Taiwan , all the allies basing US troops & platforms whether they're directly participating or not will come in the line of fire i.e Taiwan , Japan , Australia , possibly Philipines & RoK . The USN USMC & USAF need a permanent base outside the firing zone for repairs & maintenance of their platforms. They can't target India without inviting retaliation in the Malacca straits which in any case will be closed to Chinese access by the USN or/ and the LAC . Both US & India are leveraging India's neutrality.

On the flip side , the US + allies will help us with ISR & ammo as well as platforms if we happen to have a showdown with the Chinese first , across the LAC & the IOR.

 

[shade]

I think a quid pro quo has been agreed upon by Modi.. A welcome bold move..
If the Chinks attack India at the LAC, US [Eye of sauron] helps India with Intelligence and logistics, and probably some niche armaments, without US Armed forces shedding blood..

If Chinkoos attack Taiwan, India in turn, provides logistics support to US Navy, without shedding blood directly.. as US China war will be a naval war..
No to alliance.. But, yes to scratching each others backs..

If they want us to shed blood better support us with weapon platforms and ammo, and manufacturing investments and let us take/have Tibet.
Tibet is a large enough buffer to keep any afeemchi trickery and aggression away from our mainland.

Indian support shouldn't come cheap like that of those Ukrandoos

 

[Sanglamorre]

If they want us to shed blood better support us with weapon platforms and ammo, and manufacturing investments and let us take/have Tibet.
Tibet is a large enough buffer to keep any afeemchi trickery and aggression away from our mainland.

Indian support shouldn't come cheap like that of those Ukrandoos

We shouldn't keep Tibet. India needs a ring of dharmik countries around it. And they've been saturated with CCP propaganda for 2 generations now. It might be very precarious to hold them without proper connectivity.

A Bhutan like deal would be better

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Because unlike us they took care of their separatist movements long ago. Native Americans were pretty much genocided with barely a million remaining. Blacks wanted to create a separate country back in the 60's and 70's(check Black panthers party), but FBI effectively neutered it. Modern day BLM is just a socio-cultural movement, not a secessionist party, so pretty much no point in supporting it.

In fact not just America, but almost every country in the west and brutally slaughtered any opposing groups who wanted to secede. This happened over a long period of time starting from the 16th century and culminating in the 20th.

BLM has military off shoots

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[shade]

We shouldn't keep Tibet. India needs a ring of dharmik countries around it. And they've been saturated with CCP propaganda for 2 generations now. It might be very precarious to hold them without proper connectivity.

A Bhutan like deal would be better

The natives were dealt by the Hans, they can be dealt with us.
However you are correct about proper connectivity.

Also when it comes to "Dharmic" countries there is no guarantee they will be like Bhutan which is basically our protectorate and not like Neplol who's people have a small dick syndrome and Chinese money loving politicians who fan such sentiments.

 

[sameer3694]

I think a quid pro quo has been agreed upon by Modi.. A welcome bold move..
If the Chinks attack India at the LAC, US [Eye of sauron] helps India with Intelligence and logistics, and probably some niche armaments, without US Armed forces shedding blood..

If Chinkoos attack Taiwan, India in turn, provides logistics support to US Navy, without shedding blood directly.. as US China war will be a naval war..
No to alliance.. But, yes to scratching each others backs..

I think the US is not saying it out loud but it definitely wants something in the Andaman islands. That's for sure. Chinks always keep shitting their pants about the so called Malacca Dilemna.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Because unlike us they took care of their separatist movements long ago. Native Americans were pretty much genocided with barely a million remaining. Blacks wanted to create a separate country back in the 60's and 70's(check Black panthers party), but FBI effectively neutered it. Modern day BLM is just a socio-cultural movement, not a secessionist party, so pretty much no point in supporting it.

In fact not just America, but almost every country in the west and brutally slaughtered any opposing groups who wanted to secede. This happened over a long period of time starting from the 16th century and culminating in the 20th.

All these countries were able to avoid conflict because economies were good , what will happen when it
goes bad??? (happening in france now even though it is a different incident)

 

[sameer3694]

The natives were dealt by the Hans, they can be dealt with us.
However you are correct about proper connectivity.

Also when it comes to "Dharmic" countries there is no guarantee they will be like Bhutan which is basically our protectorate and not like Neplol who's people have a small dick syndrome and Chinese money loving politicians who fan such sentiments.

As long as we have Dalai lama, we can wield some degree of influence over Tibet and eventually bring it under our fold or control. Biggest problem would be if Lama saheb decides to reincarnate somewhere else, like Nepal or something . Wonder if GOI,RAW and others are looking at this and making efforts to convince him (indirectly)

 

[LETHALFORCE]

As long as we have Dalai lama, we can wield some degree of influence over Tibet and eventually bring it under our fold or control. Biggest problem would be if Lama saheb decides to reincarnate somewhere else, like Nepal or something . Wonder if GOI,RAW and others are looking at this and making efforts to convince him (indirectly)

with the investments Chinese are making in Tibet's infrastructure (dams,roads etc....) This seems
high unlikely for India to do. China May fight tooth and nail. The time to fight was back in Nehru days.

 

[Master Chief]

If they want us to shed blood better support us with weapon platforms and ammo, and manufacturing investments and let us take/have Tibet.
Tibet is a large enough buffer to keep any afeemchi trickery and aggression away from our mainland.

Indian support shouldn't come cheap like that of those Ukrandoos

Indian support didn't come cheap even when we were poor.. India didn't shed its blood for any alliance, even when it was poor.. I can't think of anything that the Americans will be willing to offer India, that will tempt India to shed blood for America (against China)..

 

[Sanglamorre]

The natives were dealt by the Hans, they can be dealt with us.
However you are correct about proper connectivity.

Also when it comes to "Dharmic" countries there is no guarantee they will be like Bhutan which is basically our protectorate and not like Neplol who's people have a small dick syndrome and Chinese money loving politicians who fan such sentiments.

If Tibet goes free, there'll for sure lapse into a Theological monarchy. It'll become like back when it had an imperial court system with ambassadors having a lot of influence in the court.

Indians will be a powerful faction considering a lot of Tibetans will emigrate from India and all have blood ties here.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Indian support didn't come cheap even when we were poor.. India didn't shed its blood for any alliance, even when it was poor.. I can't think of anything that the Americans will be willing to offer India, that will tempt India to shed blood for America (against China)..

If that time comes, a Gulf of Tonkin -esque incident will be manufactured, most probably something like China sinking a evacuation vessel of carrying Indian people.

Though I don't think it'll come to that considering Chinese will probably try to mess with us anyway because they're insecure of our action.

 

[Azaad]

I think the US is not saying it out loud but it definitely wants something in the Andaman islands. That's for sure. Chinks always keep shitting their pants about the so called Malacca Dilemna.

If the Chinese move against Taiwan it'd be after they've solved the Malacca dilemma. They're already well on course to achieving it by the end of this decade. For starters they're replacing all their ICE automobiles with EV automobiles at break neck speed.

From my understanding at least 50% if not more of their 2 wheelers are already EV as of today . By the end of the decade they'd have effectively managed the transition of ~ 90% of their existing ICE automobiles into EV.

Besides China drills 10-15% of crude oil of its total oil requirement from it's own territories as of today. Gas supplies can come via pipelines from Russia as well as supplementary oil required.

It's the import of other vital goods like foodstuff which'd be impacted. Towards this end they're creating a gigantic supply chain with last mile connectivity to super markets in various cities suburbs & rural areas well stocked with all the necessities a family needs on a day to day basis .

As of now it's Work in Progress - WiP & is expected to go online by the end of this decade. They got ab opportunity to test the efficacy of these systems during the recent shut downs due to outbreaks of the Wuhan virus . They're now in the process of fine tuning their responses from the lessons learnt.

 

[cannonfodder]

If the Chinese move against Taiwan it'd be after they've solved the Malacca dilemma. They're already well on course to achieving it by the end of this decade. For starters they're replacing all their ICE automobiles with EV automobiles at break neck speed.

From my understanding at least 50% if not more of their 2 wheelers are already EV as of today . By the end of the decade they'd have effectively managed the transition of ~ 90% of their existing ICE automobiles into EV.

Are these numbers reliable though?.. Several of the western traders don't believe in any of the numbers coming from Chinese businesses. When it comes to China, first hand visitor information is more reliable imo.

 

[Azaad]

Are these numbers reliable though?.. Several of the western traders don't believe in any of the numbers coming from Chinese businesses. When it comes to China, first hand visitor information is more reliable imo.

China Electric Two-wheeler Markets Report 2021-2025: Sales Demand Impacted by Personal Commuting, Logistics and Deliveries, and Shared Mobility Application

/PRNewswire/ -- The "China's Electric Two-wheeler Growth Opportunities" report has been added to ResearchAndMarkets.com's offering. China's two-wheeler market...

www.prnewswire.com

What’s more, more than 80 percent of 2Ws in China are electrified, making it the dominant market by far in that category.

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries...mergence-of-electrified-small-format-mobility

This report is from Oct 2020.

@SexyChineseLady

 

[cannonfodder]

China Electric Two-wheeler Markets Report 2021-2025: Sales Demand Impacted by Personal Commuting, Logistics and Deliveries, and Shared Mobility Application

/PRNewswire/ -- The "China's Electric Two-wheeler Growth Opportunities" report has been added to ResearchAndMarkets.com's offering. China's two-wheeler market...

www.prnewswire.com

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries...mergence-of-electrified-small-format-mobility

This report is from Oct 2020.

@SexyChineseLady

Sexy lady from Taiwan (Real China) is not reliable source.

 

[Azaad]

Sexy lady from Taiwan (Real China) is not reliable source.

I've enclosed a McKinsey report. SexyChineseLady will add her own sources. You'd get a good idea by parsing the various sources.

 

[Butter Chicken]

 

[shade]

Pentagon

"Moshi, moshi, Pentagonu desu, Modi-san, please help us against China, we have common cause, we'll invite you to a state visit with all pomp and grandeur! Also give you GE F414 ToT! "

(((State Department)))


"Leave the kursi Modi, or I will use your Minorities to destroy you, btw need some help in Manipur "

 

[Blademaster]

She needs to be declared persona non grata immediately.