India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[patriots]

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[Mikesingh]

Sir, are they thinking of some land grab here because of the assault on akhnoor?

We are dominating most areas by fire and observation. Very difficult for them to capture def locs. Even if they do, holding the position will be untenable.

 

[Bhadra]

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‘Operation Kabaddi’: Indian army’s aggressive plan to reconfigure LoC in 2001
By news desk
Apr.04,2019

Outline of the aggressive operation was drawn up in June 2001, barely two years after the end of the Kargil conflict

In the summer of 2001, the Indian army planned a massive and unprovoked assault against Pakistan. The plan – Operation Kabaddi – called for altering the geography of the Line of Control (LoC) and capturing more than 25 Pakistan Army posts, a new book by Happymon Jacob reveals.

The book titled Line on Fire: Ceasefire Violations and India-Pakistan Escalation Dynamics interviewed two senior retired officers of the Indian Army who divulged details about the military operation.

According to an excerpt of the book published on scroll.in the Indian army planned to capture 25-30 Pakistani Army posts in the region of Kashmir. The posts would be captured in multiple phases to overrun Pakistani defences.

Pakistan on alert to foil any Indian ‘misadventure’

According to the book, the outline of the aggressive operation were drawn up in June 2001, barely two years after the end of the Kargil conflict.

The meeting was held between three senior officers of the Indian army: the newly appointed general officer commanding Northern Command of the Indian army Lieutenant General Rostum K Nanavatty, director general of military operations Lt Gen Gurbaksh Singh Sihota and the then Indian army chief Gen Sundararajan Padmanabhan.

Gen Nanvatty argued that “they had to do something to radically change the payoff structure for Pakistan”, and the Indian army chief gave the green signal for ‘Operation Kabaddi’, telling them to be prepared to carry out the operation in due course.

In the words of Gen Nanavatty, “we were required to be ready to execute operations as planned on orders any time on or after September 1, 2001. But there were no ‘start’ and ‘finish’ dates”.

There exists no clarity whether there was political clearance
for the operation, with Gen Nanavatty saying “only army HQ can answer the question as to whether the planned operations had the sanction of the government. As far as Northern Command was concerned, we had the approval of army HQ”.
“It was not a single, coordinated operation to commence on a prescribed date. There was no mathematical distribution of tasks to formations and units,” added Nanavatty.

According to the book, Nanvatty was called in early September, asking whether the plans were ready, to which he responded all they required was a strike order from the army chief.

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However, the 9/11 attack on the twin towers in New York took place which changed the geopolitics of South Asia, meaning the plan never went ahead.

“Perhaps there was a small window of opportunity to carry out the operation immediately after 9/11 when Pakistan had not yet been drafted as an American ally in its war against terror. That window was never taken,” the book states.

Sir, the timing and content of the published book as also this article published by The Scroll do have a sinister design - to convey that Surgical Strikes were also carried out earlier on regular basis during UPA tenure.

And that nothing new Modi has done.

 

[Bleh]

The proliferation of APS systems for MBTs shows this to be a known problem worldwide. The reason IA has been vehemently insisting on CLGM capability for its MBTs is also in attempt to bridge this gap in firepower range.

APS systems are proliferating because we now have the tech, not because ATGMs have got better (which they have). Top man-portable rockets of any time could always kill most of that time's tanks, but rarely frontally.

They'd would have gladly used APS in WW2 to protect tanks against panzerfausts if the technological capability existed back then.

Seems Conventional Tank vs Tank war are out of equation these days. We can track the enemy movements and destroy them from a safe distance.
We can very well take back PoK or any area along IB if our Armed forces want without much losses in Manpower. Tech can do wonders.

Tank v Tank is obsolete. Modern battlefield has far too many weapons that out range the main gun of an MBT and can engage and destroy it long before it has a chance to fight back.

Always did, from right after 1940.
TvT is/was/will be the worst case scenario... when you can't have air-superiority to protect your attack helicopters supporting the formation & artillery-duel was inconclusive with the supporting infantry is suppressed on both sides, but minefields & obstacles were breached by the tanks!

Some of the lowest percentage of tank kills were caused by other tanks... pick your era, pick your war.

 

[Chinmoy]

Decode this:

¥【 PKG-JDJ-SGJ 】¥

I'd not say that I decoded it. But if the code means what I think it is, then we are literally taking the war to Pakis.

But on other hand, I've serious doubt on us doing something like that.

 

[indus]

Tank v Tank is obsolete. Modern battlefield has far too many weapons that out range the main gun of an MBT and can engage and destroy it long before it has a chance to fight back. The proliferation of APS systems for MBTs shows this to be a known problem worldwide. The reason IA has been vehemently insisting on CLGM capability for its MBTs is also in attempt to bridge this gap in firepower range.

Its always been a Zero Sum Game...unfortunately the MBT is currently losing.

Tank vs Tank is neither obsolete at global levels nor at India - Pak level. Or Russian wont be investing in T14 Armata, or Americans in upgraded Abrams, or Leopard etc. MBT is here to stay. The roar of armoured coloumn cannot be replaced by artillery or MBRLs. They have their own advantages. But real estate capture requires tanks. Along with infantry, of course. Why else China would be bringing Light weight tanks into Tibet, heck even we have a tank brigade in Laddakh. So let us not write it off so soon.

 

[patriots]

Bdw we lost 4 bsf person s.....with encounter with naxals......

 

[patriots]

Light firing on going in different sectors of LoC while explosions heard in #Sindh were Sonic Booms (Sound Barrier) broken by PAF near Tando Soomro.. on other hand no #Pakistani Drone has been shot down by Indian army as claimed by some fake accounts


From paki Twitter handle.............

 

[Suryavanshi]

Bdw we lost 4 bsf person s.....with encounter with naxals......

Om shanti
But are u sure its BSF and not CRPF.

 

[patriots]

Om shanti
But are u sure its BSF and not CRPF.

Ya....bsf......
Bsf is also deployed....in antinaxal operation...along with crpf

 

[tomato]

Off Topic:
Since we are sparingly talking abt psychie of bakis here...just see the description of climatic condition in their sociology textbook, gives a window of their brain without dissection..

 

[A chauhan]

Off Topic:
Since we are sparingly talking abt psychie of bakis here...just see the description of climatic condition in their sociology textbook, gives a window of their brain without dissection..

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Islamic pseudo science of Pakistan.

 

[neel9821]

My conspiracy theory, for me few things are not really adding up. But feel free to disagree with me!

On 26th we struck 3 places and all of us including Paki are only talking about Balakot. We probably killed a good number of Abduls in Balakot and Pakis have denied.
I have the suspicion that Balakot was a distraction and our real target was something else.
If Balakot was the real target then why would Paki are trying so hard to attack? We have hit something that has really hurt Paki badly and caused a lot of damage. Thats why some planes flying out of Pak to Saudi after 26th and there NOTAMs even today.

Any thoughts?

 

[Games Goblin]

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Is this real or joke??

If it is real and this is the kind of stuff being taught to students, I pity the poor bastards. They never stand a chance of becoming normal human beings.

I remember reading somewhere that institutionalised radicalisation is done to children from young age itself. The material is there in their textbooks. If I am remembering right, the US demanded to see the textbooks of a particular grade level verify these rumours (because US provides them aid and this kind of stuff will result in them cutting it off), so they printed a new batch for that grade level and moved the radicalisation content to the textbook for a different grade for that year.

Not sure if this story is true, bit I remember reading it in detail in a news report.

 

[Joker]

Off Topic:
Since we are sparingly talking abt psychie of bakis here...just see the description of climatic condition in their sociology textbook, gives a window of their brain without dissection..

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It's all due to load shedding in Pakistan, Pakistani men and khawateen get into shedding loads due to loss of electricity leading to no fan no TV no ac

 

[White Wolf]

Light firing on going in different sectors of LoC while explosions heard in #Sindh were Sonic Booms (Sound Barrier) broken by PAF near Tando Soomro.. on other hand no #Pakistani Drone has been shot down by Indian army as claimed by some fake accounts


From paki Twitter handle.............

Are these Media chaps getting reports from fake Twitter handles??

 

[Debapriya Deb]

That Joker Jaffrey Twitter account got hacked? He is singing an altogether different tune. All old Tweets have been deleted and his follower base cleansed as well. Just take a look!


If that's the case, then it's a huge blow to Napaki propaganda machinery.

 

[ZeroGo]

That Joker Jaffrey Twitter account got hacked? He is singing an altogether different tune. All old Tweets have been deleted and his follower base cleansed as well. Just take a look!


If that's the case, then it's a huge blow to Napaki propaganda machinery.

It's not the same account. There are three fffs at the end of this twitter handle, far less followers too. Basic checks like this can save a lot of trouble.

 

[Porbandar]

Validation for #OperationColdWave ?

 

[BigB.India]

What's that Mean.......