India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019
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No one should have any doubt in formidablity of an F16 , it's great aircraft. However, when flown by not so good pilots, even F16 can be shotdown by Mig 21. This has what happened and PAF is solely responsible for this.
However, one should respect PAF WC 'Shahzaz Ud Din' who died a hero's death, but was given a secret and non-hero's burial by pakis, who did the same to their soldiers after losing Kargil war!
However, one should respect PAF WC 'Shahzaz Ud Din' who died a hero's death, but was given a secret and non-hero's burial by pakis, who did the same to their soldiers after losing Kargil war!
I have utmost respect for WingCo Shahzaz is din. I have utmost sympathy for his family .
He was sent to his death by porky jernails for satisfying their ego. Pakistan as a nation cannot survive if it's educated population is sacrificed for survival and defence of jihadis.
Imagine the brain drain in Baki population!!!
Everyone is queueing for Canadian visa!!!!
I can't blame them
He was sent to his death by porky jernails for satisfying their ego. Pakistan as a nation cannot survive if it's educated population is sacrificed for survival and defence of jihadis.
Imagine the brain drain in Baki population!!!
Everyone is queueing for Canadian visa!!!!
I can't blame them
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Banned. Popped up when most of us were sleeping
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Bro, respect for Shahzaz Ud Din! He died in line of duty!
It's these madrasachap pakis who killed him, reports say he was injured, however bloodthirsty pakis beat him to death, and then Ispr lies about 3 pilots, then says they have one pilot. Where is the 3rd pilot? Was he also killed by pakis because he also tried to act smart?
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That way he took revenge of Balakot night bombing, by troll bombing DFI in the night.Banned. Popped up when most of us were sleeping
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The Indian Pilot Abhinandaan said that to be Fighter Pilot one must have a "BAD ATTITUDE" ... IAF has come a long way from Nehru's neglect and turning into a show piece ...
Brother we need few more years of Modi to turn Indian Force into a killing machine for our enemy ... It has already started to show in LoC...
very unfortunate !! hope Pakistani will kcknoeledge after 10 years [ or before that] as they did for Kargil...
I Remembe it was a two seater f-16. So one in custody (Abhi) one injured (Shahzaz) and one missing were reported early. Then the pilot who ejected with Shahzaz must have informed superior as to what happened.
I feel Shahzaz who is from sherdils (instructors) of paki air force is not a regular PAF odefensive pilot but an instructor.
He must have not tried any evasive maneuvers as it is usually perceived Indians won't fire near or cross loc. That assumption caused his downfall.
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IAF decoy fighters distracted Pakistan air patrols - Times of India
NEW DELHI: During the aerial strike on the Jaish camp in Balakot, the Indian Air Force also deployed “a decoy package” of fighters ostensibly headed towards the JeM headquarters in Bahawalpur in the Punjab province to lure Pakistani combat air patrols away from the actual “strike package” that had the Balakot facility in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province in its cross-hairs in the wee hours of February 26.
This was in addition to the Mirage-2000s and Sukhoi-30MKIs, IL-78 mid-air refuellers and AWACS (airborne warning and control system) aircraft being deployed from Gwalior, Agra and Bareilly, instead of forward airbases, which took a circuitous route to the Muzaffarabad sector along the LoC to retain the element of surprise for the strikes, as was earlier reported by TOI.
“The decoy package of Sukhoi-30MKIs, in turn, took off from our Punjab to fake a strike operation towards Bahawalpur. Pakistan was taken in by the decoy formation and vectored its fighters in the air towards it,” said another source.
“Consequently, there was no Pakistani fighter anywhere near the actual strike package … the closest one would have been well over 150 km away. This also nails Pakistan’s claim that IAF fighters hastily dropped their bombs without achieving anything, much like its other factually incorrect statements like it did not use F-16s in the air intrusion on February 27,” he added.
The IAF cross-border strike, and that too well inside Pakistan instead of restricting it to POK, has redrawn India’s self-imposed red-lines, which earlier held that any use of airpower would be a sharply escalatory step in the complicated dynamics between the two nuclear-armed neighbours. “If the IAF had been told not to cross the LoC, like it was directed during the 1999 Kargil conflict, the weapons package to be used would have been quite different,” said the source.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-with-decoy-fighters/articleshow/68238409.cms
NEW DELHI: During the aerial strike on the Jaish camp in Balakot, the Indian Air Force also deployed “a decoy package” of fighters ostensibly headed towards the JeM headquarters in Bahawalpur in the Punjab province to lure Pakistani combat air patrols away from the actual “strike package” that had the Balakot facility in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province in its cross-hairs in the wee hours of February 26.
This was in addition to the Mirage-2000s and Sukhoi-30MKIs, IL-78 mid-air refuellers and AWACS (airborne warning and control system) aircraft being deployed from Gwalior, Agra and Bareilly, instead of forward airbases, which took a circuitous route to the Muzaffarabad sector along the LoC to retain the element of surprise for the strikes, as was earlier reported by TOI.
“The decoy package of Sukhoi-30MKIs, in turn, took off from our Punjab to fake a strike operation towards Bahawalpur. Pakistan was taken in by the decoy formation and vectored its fighters in the air towards it,” said another source.
“Consequently, there was no Pakistani fighter anywhere near the actual strike package … the closest one would have been well over 150 km away. This also nails Pakistan’s claim that IAF fighters hastily dropped their bombs without achieving anything, much like its other factually incorrect statements like it did not use F-16s in the air intrusion on February 27,” he added.
The IAF cross-border strike, and that too well inside Pakistan instead of restricting it to POK, has redrawn India’s self-imposed red-lines, which earlier held that any use of airpower would be a sharply escalatory step in the complicated dynamics between the two nuclear-armed neighbours. “If the IAF had been told not to cross the LoC, like it was directed during the 1999 Kargil conflict, the weapons package to be used would have been quite different,” said the source.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-with-decoy-fighters/articleshow/68238409.cms
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Indian Air Force unrestrained
On February 26, 2019, the Indian Air Force rose to the call for retribution against the attack on the CRPF convoy at Pulwama, by Pakistan-sponsored terrorists, in which 40 CRPF soldiers were killed. After due deliberations, the government tasked the IAF with destroying large and well-established terrorist launch pads across the Line of Control.
For the first time, the IAF has been recognised as being capable of operating independently when the element of surprise, speed and assured results were warranted. The mission it undertook was a complex one. Such missions have been previously attempted only by the air forces of the most advanced countries that have high technological assets, vast intelligence support, highly skilled manpower and vast research and development and industrial support. Precision guided weapons and sensors like the Litening targeting pod that were employed are highly sophisticated systems.
It is a testament to our Air Force’s skill and ability that such a complex mission was handled in copybook style, with 100 per cent success, zero loss and zero collateral damage. Kudos to the air warriors! For the first time, the indigenous Netra airborne early warning and control system, conceived by the IAF and designed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, was used to support an offensive mission. The DRDO deserves a pat on the back.
Considering that the mission was flown in pitch darkness, there was no room for mistakes. The target, hidden by foliage and surrounded by hills, would have been impossible to spot without the aid of FLIR [Forward Looking InfraRed] or other night vision devices. The pilots would have had to release the weapons flying low and fast in the dark, over a hilly terrain on the very first pass and with no possibility of a re-run. Even if all goes to plan, there are unknown variables like the enemy’s air defence systems that impose the highest risks.
Overcoming such challenges require not luck, but training and confidence. The IAF brilliantly demonstrated these qualities in mounting the mission. There are an equally large number of professionals who would have worked 24x7 analysing tons of intelligence reports and planning the mission to the minutest detail. Carelessness in planning could impose severe risks to the mission.
The strike has demonstrated the capability of air power to the country and the decision makers in the government. The Air Force is always willing and ready to serve in a befitting manner when called upon. It is for the decision makers to employ this asset in the best possible manner. It offers an important choice that cannot be ruled out, but requires further nurturing.
The nature of democracy is such that a civilian government would seldom know the complexities of military operations, especially about employment of advanced technology and skill-based operations. It is important that a competent advisory body is available to the government within the political system. Such consultation is essential in any large defence related project and the management of PSUs and the DRDO. It is vital that the minister of defence conducts regular reviews on the capabilities of the military, the state of inventory and training standards. Cost-effectiveness in management should seriously be pursued.
It is the responsibility of the government to consider all military options when it becomes inevitable to use force. For a developing economy, war is never an easy option. Military operations have reactions that can affect economy, growth and infrastructure quite severely, besides the loss of lives and serious injuries to a large number of able-bodied youth in uniform. Only an extreme provocation can influence the government to use force.
https://www.theweek.in/theweek/cover/2019/03/02/indian-air-force-unrestrained.html
On February 26, 2019, the Indian Air Force rose to the call for retribution against the attack on the CRPF convoy at Pulwama, by Pakistan-sponsored terrorists, in which 40 CRPF soldiers were killed. After due deliberations, the government tasked the IAF with destroying large and well-established terrorist launch pads across the Line of Control.
For the first time, the IAF has been recognised as being capable of operating independently when the element of surprise, speed and assured results were warranted. The mission it undertook was a complex one. Such missions have been previously attempted only by the air forces of the most advanced countries that have high technological assets, vast intelligence support, highly skilled manpower and vast research and development and industrial support. Precision guided weapons and sensors like the Litening targeting pod that were employed are highly sophisticated systems.
It is a testament to our Air Force’s skill and ability that such a complex mission was handled in copybook style, with 100 per cent success, zero loss and zero collateral damage. Kudos to the air warriors! For the first time, the indigenous Netra airborne early warning and control system, conceived by the IAF and designed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, was used to support an offensive mission. The DRDO deserves a pat on the back.
Considering that the mission was flown in pitch darkness, there was no room for mistakes. The target, hidden by foliage and surrounded by hills, would have been impossible to spot without the aid of FLIR [Forward Looking InfraRed] or other night vision devices. The pilots would have had to release the weapons flying low and fast in the dark, over a hilly terrain on the very first pass and with no possibility of a re-run. Even if all goes to plan, there are unknown variables like the enemy’s air defence systems that impose the highest risks.
Overcoming such challenges require not luck, but training and confidence. The IAF brilliantly demonstrated these qualities in mounting the mission. There are an equally large number of professionals who would have worked 24x7 analysing tons of intelligence reports and planning the mission to the minutest detail. Carelessness in planning could impose severe risks to the mission.
The strike has demonstrated the capability of air power to the country and the decision makers in the government. The Air Force is always willing and ready to serve in a befitting manner when called upon. It is for the decision makers to employ this asset in the best possible manner. It offers an important choice that cannot be ruled out, but requires further nurturing.
The nature of democracy is such that a civilian government would seldom know the complexities of military operations, especially about employment of advanced technology and skill-based operations. It is important that a competent advisory body is available to the government within the political system. Such consultation is essential in any large defence related project and the management of PSUs and the DRDO. It is vital that the minister of defence conducts regular reviews on the capabilities of the military, the state of inventory and training standards. Cost-effectiveness in management should seriously be pursued.
It is the responsibility of the government to consider all military options when it becomes inevitable to use force. For a developing economy, war is never an easy option. Military operations have reactions that can affect economy, growth and infrastructure quite severely, besides the loss of lives and serious injuries to a large number of able-bodied youth in uniform. Only an extreme provocation can influence the government to use force.
https://www.theweek.in/theweek/cover/2019/03/02/indian-air-force-unrestrained.html
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Sorry Sir, I bed to differ. That bugger was a Jihadi Pig. If he died in line of Duty, the Pakistani Govt, Armed Forces and the Jihadi Population of Pakistan would have recognized him as a Hero and acknowledged his sacrifice by now. The Terrorist State has shown him his Place that he is a disgrace of Pakistan, the revelation of his death going to be Shameful for Pakistan. He died a Jihadi Pig's Death. Hence Proved....
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Behind the red alert: There’s more to the airspace lockdown in Pakistan than meets the eye
The frenzy of screenshots of flight tracking apps all over social media revealing empty airspace in Pakistan has been fuelling the mill of speculations of a war brewing. The country is on high alert, no doubt, owing to the Indian Air Force’s unexpected strikes against terror camps in Balakot, which Pakistan indignantly claims as an attack on their soil. But what purpose does an immediate lockdown of the airspace serve, other than to raise guard in anticipation of further attacks? Curiously, the Indian state gave no indication of escalation, their stance being the strikes were ‘non-military’ action against terror.
Considering the circumstances of the stand-off between the two states, which is merely an out-in-the-open acknowledgement of the strain that has been felt quite tangible for many months now, it does not make sense why Pakistan would want to shut down its entire airspace to commercial aircraft? Even if we assume that India is in the mood to hammer Pakistan, why did Pakistan not shut just its Eastern airspace?
Wars have been fought over territory and resources – to acquire and dominate, but rarely do we study the role of resources needed to start or sustain a war in the first place. Strangely so in the age of nuclear armaments, where any threat of war is assessed purely on the basis of a potential nuclear escalation. We may now safely guess that Pakistan isn’t quite willing or prepared to press the red button. Shutting the air space isn’t a prerequisite for it. So we have room to speculate about the resources they have for a conventional war if that’s what they are preparing for. Here’s an overview:
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For those interested in energy economics it’s a well-known fact that Pakistan has an underdeveloped energy sector and struggles to meet the fuel and power demands of its citizens.
A recent report in 2018 by the International Renewable Energy Agency stated that half the rural population in Pakistan doesn’t have access to electricity. The report starts by asserting that the increasing gap between energy supply and demand has reached as high as 7 GW and has severely affected the economic and social development in the country. The situation is further complicated by Pakistan’s overdependence on imported hydrocarbon energy supplies. Pakistan energy dependence is roughly 45% natural gas followed by 35% fuel oil. In contrast, the energy mix of Bangladesh is roughly 55% natural gas and 25% fuel oil.
Here’s a look into their fuel consumption: Pakistan’s use of energy sources is led by the industrial sector at 35.4% (IRENA, 2018) and followed by transportation 32.4% (IRENA, 2018).
If this is a dismal picture of their energy resources with regards to regular fuel, where do they stand with regards to jet fuel usage?
Based on EIA data from the Index Mundi site, Pakistan produces 4,000 barrels per day (bpd) of jet fuel. The world’s biggest producer in the US at 1,471,000 bpd and India is at no.6 producing 219,000 bpd. For a country the size of Pakistan, this is too small a number and the criticality of the situation is further accentuated by their troubled relationships with neighbouring countries and unique geographic challenges.
A 2017 Dawn article stated that Pakistan was struggling to meet the jet fuel supply requirements for commercial and defence aircraft. Apparently, defence officials had voiced their concerns on this as well. Sources indicate that Pakistan State Oil (PSO) had issued several warnings to the petroleum division of the Ministry of Energy about the possibility of dry-outs at several airports in the country.
The Dawn (2017) article predicted a likelihood of the airports of Lahore, Sialkot, Multan, Faisalabad and Islamabad running dry of jet fuel by December that year.
The tendering and supply chain cycle within Pakistan at that time were ill-equipped to address this shortage by quick imports. For this reason, the PSO had asked the government to ensure the regulated production of jet fuel to them by the largest refineries in Pakistan. PSO went on to get assurances from the government to allow them to import jet fuel bypassing standard processes in the event local refineries are unable to meet the regulated jet fuel production demands.
The energy situation in Pakistan took at interesting turn in 2015 when Pakistan started its first LNG import terminal at Port Qasim in Karachi, followed by the second one at the same location in 2017. Based on an article in The News (2018), the Pakistan government’s shift from furnace oil to cleaner-burning natural gas for power generation has created the unique situation of refineries in Pakistan having to likely shut down due to an excess of furnace oil. The article went on to say that the Oil Companies Advisory Council (OCAC) had warned towards the end of 2018 that all major refineries in Pakistan are operating at suboptimal levels and are heading towards shutdowns if the offtake of furnace oil for consumption of power plants aren’t increased urgently.
The furnace fuel oil consumption slowdown has seriously affected all the major refineries in Pakistan including Pak Arab Refinery (PARCO), Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL), National Refinery Limited (NRL) and Attock Refinery Limited (ARL). PARCO which is a joint venture between the governments of Pakistan and Abu Dhabi has been facing one of the lowest production levels. Reports indicate the refinery is running at 65% and is facing the likelihood of shutdown if the offtake of furnace oil isn’t increased soon.
Due to the nature of the refining process, a shutdown will mean that the entire hydrocarbon supply chain will be broken resulting in the refinery not being able to produce jet fuel which is critical to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Now we arrive at a theory, based on ample clues, of how shutting down airspace is not simply a cautionary measure for Pakistan but an inevitable and a desperate move to conserve jet fuel for any state of readiness that the current situation demands. Going further, it might even shed light on the worryingly (for Pakistan) slow reflexes of the PAF during the IAF’s Balakot strikes. While they ‘scrambled’ (the PAF’s own words) to figure out what hit them, the furious citizens took to social media to question the efficacy of their fighter jets and the alertness of the Forces. Perhaps the clue is inside the fuel tanks.
https://www.opindia.com/2019/03/pak...kot-more-than-what-meets-the-eye-energy-fuel/
Well TIMED ..very Well Timed bondage game on pak
The frenzy of screenshots of flight tracking apps all over social media revealing empty airspace in Pakistan has been fuelling the mill of speculations of a war brewing. The country is on high alert, no doubt, owing to the Indian Air Force’s unexpected strikes against terror camps in Balakot, which Pakistan indignantly claims as an attack on their soil. But what purpose does an immediate lockdown of the airspace serve, other than to raise guard in anticipation of further attacks? Curiously, the Indian state gave no indication of escalation, their stance being the strikes were ‘non-military’ action against terror.
Considering the circumstances of the stand-off between the two states, which is merely an out-in-the-open acknowledgement of the strain that has been felt quite tangible for many months now, it does not make sense why Pakistan would want to shut down its entire airspace to commercial aircraft? Even if we assume that India is in the mood to hammer Pakistan, why did Pakistan not shut just its Eastern airspace?
Wars have been fought over territory and resources – to acquire and dominate, but rarely do we study the role of resources needed to start or sustain a war in the first place. Strangely so in the age of nuclear armaments, where any threat of war is assessed purely on the basis of a potential nuclear escalation. We may now safely guess that Pakistan isn’t quite willing or prepared to press the red button. Shutting the air space isn’t a prerequisite for it. So we have room to speculate about the resources they have for a conventional war if that’s what they are preparing for. Here’s an overview:
- Advertisement - - Article resumes -
For those interested in energy economics it’s a well-known fact that Pakistan has an underdeveloped energy sector and struggles to meet the fuel and power demands of its citizens.
A recent report in 2018 by the International Renewable Energy Agency stated that half the rural population in Pakistan doesn’t have access to electricity. The report starts by asserting that the increasing gap between energy supply and demand has reached as high as 7 GW and has severely affected the economic and social development in the country. The situation is further complicated by Pakistan’s overdependence on imported hydrocarbon energy supplies. Pakistan energy dependence is roughly 45% natural gas followed by 35% fuel oil. In contrast, the energy mix of Bangladesh is roughly 55% natural gas and 25% fuel oil.
Here’s a look into their fuel consumption: Pakistan’s use of energy sources is led by the industrial sector at 35.4% (IRENA, 2018) and followed by transportation 32.4% (IRENA, 2018).
If this is a dismal picture of their energy resources with regards to regular fuel, where do they stand with regards to jet fuel usage?
Based on EIA data from the Index Mundi site, Pakistan produces 4,000 barrels per day (bpd) of jet fuel. The world’s biggest producer in the US at 1,471,000 bpd and India is at no.6 producing 219,000 bpd. For a country the size of Pakistan, this is too small a number and the criticality of the situation is further accentuated by their troubled relationships with neighbouring countries and unique geographic challenges.
A 2017 Dawn article stated that Pakistan was struggling to meet the jet fuel supply requirements for commercial and defence aircraft. Apparently, defence officials had voiced their concerns on this as well. Sources indicate that Pakistan State Oil (PSO) had issued several warnings to the petroleum division of the Ministry of Energy about the possibility of dry-outs at several airports in the country.
The Dawn (2017) article predicted a likelihood of the airports of Lahore, Sialkot, Multan, Faisalabad and Islamabad running dry of jet fuel by December that year.
The tendering and supply chain cycle within Pakistan at that time were ill-equipped to address this shortage by quick imports. For this reason, the PSO had asked the government to ensure the regulated production of jet fuel to them by the largest refineries in Pakistan. PSO went on to get assurances from the government to allow them to import jet fuel bypassing standard processes in the event local refineries are unable to meet the regulated jet fuel production demands.The energy situation in Pakistan took at interesting turn in 2015 when Pakistan started its first LNG import terminal at Port Qasim in Karachi, followed by the second one at the same location in 2017. Based on an article in The News (2018), the Pakistan government’s shift from furnace oil to cleaner-burning natural gas for power generation has created the unique situation of refineries in Pakistan having to likely shut down due to an excess of furnace oil. The article went on to say that the Oil Companies Advisory Council (OCAC) had warned towards the end of 2018 that all major refineries in Pakistan are operating at suboptimal levels and are heading towards shutdowns if the offtake of furnace oil for consumption of power plants aren’t increased urgently.
The furnace fuel oil consumption slowdown has seriously affected all the major refineries in Pakistan including Pak Arab Refinery (PARCO), Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL), National Refinery Limited (NRL) and Attock Refinery Limited (ARL). PARCO which is a joint venture between the governments of Pakistan and Abu Dhabi has been facing one of the lowest production levels. Reports indicate the refinery is running at 65% and is facing the likelihood of shutdown if the offtake of furnace oil isn’t increased soon.
Due to the nature of the refining process, a shutdown will mean that the entire hydrocarbon supply chain will be broken resulting in the refinery not being able to produce jet fuel which is critical to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Now we arrive at a theory, based on ample clues, of how shutting down airspace is not simply a cautionary measure for Pakistan but an inevitable and a desperate move to conserve jet fuel for any state of readiness that the current situation demands. Going further, it might even shed light on the worryingly (for Pakistan) slow reflexes of the PAF during the IAF’s Balakot strikes. While they ‘scrambled’ (the PAF’s own words) to figure out what hit them, the furious citizens took to social media to question the efficacy of their fighter jets and the alertness of the Forces. Perhaps the clue is inside the fuel tanks.
https://www.opindia.com/2019/03/pak...kot-more-than-what-meets-the-eye-energy-fuel/
Well TIMED ..very Well Timed bondage game on pak
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Disgraced paki army will never admit that Shahzaz Ud Din died in the line of duty, because he was flying F16 twin seater, got it shot down and the fate of 3rd pilot is unknown, later disgarced pakis may come out and say that he died in an accident some years back or something similar.
It's not that pakis are saving their face, however US of A is breathing doen their throats, as Americans know these disgraced pakis got their ace F16 shot down by a vintage Mig21, it will hit F16 sales to the world.
Respect to paki WC Shahzaz Ud Din who died flying F16!
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No lessons learnt
The writer was dean of the School of Humanities and Social Sciences at Lums.
PAKISTAN should be a welfare state. With millions of people straddling the poverty line, there is no other way forward. Those who believe the market will offer a solution are driven by ideology, blind fundamentalists in the same category as religious fundamentalists.
Only the state can cater for such destitution and the fact that a state has no interest or ability to do so does not mean that the task should be turned over to the market. The plain truth is that the market cares nothing for those without the ability to pay and there are many more in that category than should be acceptable.
Not just that, without a strong state the market doesn’t trickle wealth down, it siphons it up. The only viable alternative is to force the state to deliver on its responsibility and in the long run the only peaceful weapon citizens have to achieve that is the power of their votes. Let not this power be exhausted by either
subverting it or ignoring its claims. The demand for bread can be fobbed off only so long with the promise of cakes.
We should pay heed to the fact that instead of moving towards a ‘welfare’ state we are consciously turning into even more of a ‘warfare’ state than we already happen to be. It is in this context that one should consider the decision of the cabinet, delivered without any sense of irony by the minister for information at the time of the recent mini-budget: “The country’s defence budget is already low as compared to other states in the region, and therefore it should be increased” — though there was no such known demand for this by the establishment.
Hello, Mr Minister. The country’s budget for everything else — health, education, public transport, environmental sanitation, you name it — is also already low as compared to other states in the region. So why just the privileging of defence? On the contrary, the budget for everything else is being reduced even further to make up for the increase.
The deficit is intended to be made up “through the generation of more revenue” but given that no elite has ever taxed itself voluntarily except under extreme duress, this burden of taxation is also likely to fall on the middle and lower classes through dubious withholding taxes on mobile phones and the like.
In actual fact, the deficit is being made up by scrounging around for a billion here and a billion there on terms that cannot be disclosed to citizens and by printing money like there is no tomorrow.
All that the printed money is causing is inflation that is eroding the purchasing power of the helpless even further. I am sure the poor are ready to sacrifice for the nation but what does the interest of the nation entail? Is it always more guns at the cost of butter? And will the sacrifice ever be equitably shared or will one category continue to be evicted from tiny plots where they have lived for decades while others are allotted plots on which pets live better than the humans who feed them?
Where is the sense of irony in all this? Recall the out-of-the-box policy of some wizard in the Economic Advisory Committee who advocated a ban on imported cheese with the justification: ‘can a country that has no foreign exchange afford to eat cheese?’
Hello, again, Mr Jack-in-the-Box. Granted a country that has no foreign exchange ought not to eat imported cheese but can its leaders still afford to fly around in helicopters and ride in SUVs? Why doesn’t the cabinet set an example by getting to work on camels and setting up offices in tents instead of sprawling complexes with perpetual air-conditioning? And while they are demonstrating how people — all people — ought to be living in a country with no foreign exchange, why don’t they turn off the hot water as well since that has now been declared a luxury in the New Pakistan?
Have we learned nothing from history? The Soviet Union collapsed ballooning its defence budget while making people wait in endless queues for the necessities of life. Countries that neglect the minimum welfare of their citizens and fight endless futile wars get hollowed out from within and ultimately implode. This insight was obvious even to a president like Reagan who was otherwise not very bright. All the US had to do was to engage the Soviet Union in an endless arms race and the latter ran out of space.
Modi is a sharper politician and is following the same strategy with Pakistan — no negotiations till the room for manoeuvre disappears. And we are helping him along. When two countries are developing at radically different rates, every day that passes weakens the negotiating position of the laggard till the only recourse left is capitulation or the madness of mutual destruction.
Verily it is said that those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. And when they wish to destroy completely, they make them madder still.
The writer was dean of the School of Humanities and Social Sciences at Lums.
Published in Dawn, March 3rd, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1467309/no-lessons-learnt
PAKISTAN should be a welfare state. With millions of people straddling the poverty line, there is no other way forward. Those who believe the market will offer a solution are driven by ideology, blind fundamentalists in the same category as religious fundamentalists.
Only the state can cater for such destitution and the fact that a state has no interest or ability to do so does not mean that the task should be turned over to the market. The plain truth is that the market cares nothing for those without the ability to pay and there are many more in that category than should be acceptable.
Not just that, without a strong state the market doesn’t trickle wealth down, it siphons it up. The only viable alternative is to force the state to deliver on its responsibility and in the long run the only peaceful weapon citizens have to achieve that is the power of their votes. Let not this power be exhausted by either
subverting it or ignoring its claims. The demand for bread can be fobbed off only so long with the promise of cakes.
We should pay heed to the fact that instead of moving towards a ‘welfare’ state we are consciously turning into even more of a ‘warfare’ state than we already happen to be. It is in this context that one should consider the decision of the cabinet, delivered without any sense of irony by the minister for information at the time of the recent mini-budget: “The country’s defence budget is already low as compared to other states in the region, and therefore it should be increased” — though there was no such known demand for this by the establishment.
‘Welfare’ not ‘warfare’ should be the goal.
The deficit is intended to be made up “through the generation of more revenue” but given that no elite has ever taxed itself voluntarily except under extreme duress, this burden of taxation is also likely to fall on the middle and lower classes through dubious withholding taxes on mobile phones and the like.
In actual fact, the deficit is being made up by scrounging around for a billion here and a billion there on terms that cannot be disclosed to citizens and by printing money like there is no tomorrow.
All that the printed money is causing is inflation that is eroding the purchasing power of the helpless even further. I am sure the poor are ready to sacrifice for the nation but what does the interest of the nation entail? Is it always more guns at the cost of butter? And will the sacrifice ever be equitably shared or will one category continue to be evicted from tiny plots where they have lived for decades while others are allotted plots on which pets live better than the humans who feed them?
Where is the sense of irony in all this? Recall the out-of-the-box policy of some wizard in the Economic Advisory Committee who advocated a ban on imported cheese with the justification: ‘can a country that has no foreign exchange afford to eat cheese?’
Hello, again, Mr Jack-in-the-Box. Granted a country that has no foreign exchange ought not to eat imported cheese but can its leaders still afford to fly around in helicopters and ride in SUVs? Why doesn’t the cabinet set an example by getting to work on camels and setting up offices in tents instead of sprawling complexes with perpetual air-conditioning? And while they are demonstrating how people — all people — ought to be living in a country with no foreign exchange, why don’t they turn off the hot water as well since that has now been declared a luxury in the New Pakistan?
Have we learned nothing from history? The Soviet Union collapsed ballooning its defence budget while making people wait in endless queues for the necessities of life. Countries that neglect the minimum welfare of their citizens and fight endless futile wars get hollowed out from within and ultimately implode. This insight was obvious even to a president like Reagan who was otherwise not very bright. All the US had to do was to engage the Soviet Union in an endless arms race and the latter ran out of space.
Modi is a sharper politician and is following the same strategy with Pakistan — no negotiations till the room for manoeuvre disappears. And we are helping him along. When two countries are developing at radically different rates, every day that passes weakens the negotiating position of the laggard till the only recourse left is capitulation or the madness of mutual destruction.
Verily it is said that those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. And when they wish to destroy completely, they make them madder still.
The writer was dean of the School of Humanities and Social Sciences at Lums.
Published in Dawn, March 3rd, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1467309/no-lessons-learnt
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India ready to extend support to Pakistan to fight against terrorism on its soil: Rajnath Singh
"Not only India, many other countries are hit by terrorism today but I want to tell you...have confidence...this will not go on forever...the prime minister has taken a decision that a decisive battle should be launched for its (terrorism) end and it has already begun," he said.
"If Pakistan thinks it does not have the strength to deal with terrorism, it can seek the help of its neighbouring country India."
"Pakistan will either have to wipe out terrorism from its soil on its own or else such a situation will be created that terror bases will be wiped out from Pakistan and no power will be able to stop this," the home minister asserted.
"India has shown to the world that it has the strength to not only strike from its soil, if required, we can also strike on the soil of other country as we have this strength," he said.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/ind...rorism-on-its-soil-rajnath-singh-6184771.html
pakis.....ITs not a fight against pakistan....Its a fight against terrorism..if pakistan is opposing India means that pakistan is supporting terrorism..
"Not only India, many other countries are hit by terrorism today but I want to tell you...have confidence...this will not go on forever...the prime minister has taken a decision that a decisive battle should be launched for its (terrorism) end and it has already begun," he said.
"If Pakistan thinks it does not have the strength to deal with terrorism, it can seek the help of its neighbouring country India.""Pakistan will either have to wipe out terrorism from its soil on its own or else such a situation will be created that terror bases will be wiped out from Pakistan and no power will be able to stop this," the home minister asserted.
"India has shown to the world that it has the strength to not only strike from its soil, if required, we can also strike on the soil of other country as we have this strength," he said.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/ind...rorism-on-its-soil-rajnath-singh-6184771.html
pakis.....ITs not a fight against pakistan....Its a fight against terrorism..if pakistan is opposing India means that pakistan is supporting terrorism..
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Carrying 'special message', Saudi foreign minister to visit Pakistan today
In his bilateral talks with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, MBS had described terrorism as a ‘common concern’.
http://www.wionews.com/south-asia/c...reign-minister-to-visit-pakistan-today-200692
In his bilateral talks with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, MBS had described terrorism as a ‘common concern’.
http://www.wionews.com/south-asia/c...reign-minister-to-visit-pakistan-today-200692
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Let's be fair to the Pakistanis here, it should be a matter of pride for Pakistan that they took down a, about to be decommissioned, Mig 21 with the Best frontline aircraft in their arsenal. So it's India-2 PAK -1
However what should seriously alarm our neighbors is the sheer disrespect that the ageing Mig displayed toward the venerable F-16, by chasing it into pak airspace and take it down there, before being taken down in turn by paf jets like pudgy Street urchins take down their local street bully., s
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