India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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Bhai @Raheel1991 our proof is that your pilot is dead! :bounce:

Aukat ho to tu hume ye banda zinda dikha...


Atleast Shahzad-ud-din ka bap Retd. Air Marshal Waseem-Ud-Din, ka statement... that his son is still alive. :hat::hat:

Guys can this plz be our only reply to the goat-fuckers from now on?.. ON ANY SOCAL MEDIA PLATFORM.
It's kinda weird to see you guys giving logical answers to an inbred muzzie for pages..
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He actually worked on figuring out how to take out SU30MKI, but ended up taken out by Mig21. Must be out of syllabus exam for him :rofl::rofl:
 

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The thing is they aren't here for any discussions. You won't convince them of any wrongdoings by Pak in any domain.

What they will do however is stick to the same narrative ignoring everything else either because they are paid trolls or because they are brainwashed.

Once some proof is shown, they will label it as a fake and a conspiracy against Pakistan and start that same nonsense all over.
The objective is not to convince them. You cannot make a horse drink water if it doesn't want to. The objective is to let oppossing voices on the forum while continuing with civilized debate. Fighting with them doesn't achieve anything.
 

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Amid India-Pakistan crisis, India won the diplomacy round

When thinking about the initial international response to the India-Pakistan crisis, it is worth considering the dog that didn’t bark: what was not said.

Missing after the terrorist attack in Pulwama was any public American call for dialogue or restraint. Absent from most countries’ statements after the Indian Air Force strike was condemnation of it. The absence of these elements, which a decade or two ago would have been par for the course, offers us clues about the geopolitical landscape, and the changing nature of India and Pakistan’s relationships with various countries.

The US was quick to condemn the Pulwama attack and repeatedly called for Pakistan to take action against terrorists operating from its territory. It has reportedly also worked with France on the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) statement, at the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to keep Pakistan grey-listed, and in the 1267 committee to get Masood Azhar designated as a terrorist. It also pressed Pakistan to release Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman. The US response has been shaped by its strategic and economic interests with India, particularly in the context of its competition with China. But it also reflects the capital that India had earned with years of restraint after provocations, and Washington’s own frustration with Pakistan on the issue of terrorism.

For China and Saudi Arabia, as well as the United Arab Emirates, the crisis has put them in a fix. It’s pitted their traditional ties with Pakistan against their India imperatives.

The latter is why China, too, did not initially condemn the IAF strike. For Beijing, this is yet another time that its ally Pakistan has complicated its larger interests.

It has wanted to reset the temperature with India because of its uncertainty about the Trump Administration. China’s broader strategic competition with the US means it wants to stabilise the relationship with India and keep it from moving even closer to the US. But this crisis has highlighted the limits of the reset and that fundamental problems between China and India remain, including the Sino-Pakistani alliance. Almost as bad from Beijing’s perspective would be that the crisis has given the US — and its allies like Australia and France — a chance to show support in contrast with China’s obstructionism.

China will know, however, that its leverage with Pakistan and position in the UNSC and the FATF give Delhi reasons to continue to engage with Beijing.

Delhi’s sense of Beijing’s utility will likely be shaped by what role China has played — and will play — in urging Pakistan toward de-escalation and counterterrorism actions. In some past crises, Beijing has privately pressured Pakistan, partly by indicating the limits of its support.

But, if Beijing has been unhelpful or inactive in this regard, Delhi will keep that in mind.

Indian policymakers will also likely remember the Russian response. Moscow’s public statements have been minimal.

Here, too, what’s been missing is striking: unlike after the Uri attack, no mention or condemnation of the Pakistan angle —despite greater Indians efforts to woo Russia with energy and defence deals over the last two years. Moscow will be aware, however, that any negative consequences will likely be limited by Delhi’s sense that Moscow is best kept onside. Because, even if Russia is not helpful, it could be harmful in settings like the UNSC or the Russia-India-China trilateral, or vis-à-vis other Indian interests.

Delhi will be more pleased with the Saudi and Emirati reaction. They reportedly played a role in the captured pilot’s release, and refused Islamabad’s request to disinvite External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation meeting. India is now useful to these two countries. It is the fastest growing oil consumer at a time their other customers are looking to other energy sources. It is a relatively attractive investment destination at a time they are looking for alternative sources of revenue. It is unlikely to criticise Riyadh or Abu Dhabi for their behaviour at home or abroad. And it is not a country they want to see get closer to their rivals Qatar and Iran.

It is crucial to remember that it is India’s strategic and economic clout — and utility — that has led to a more supportive environment.


//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/68236885.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 

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No one should have any doubt in formidablity of an F16 , it's great aircraft. However, when flown by not so good pilots, even F16 can be shotdown by Mig 21. This has what happened and PAF is solely responsible for this.

However, one should respect PAF WC 'Shahzaz Ud Din' who died a hero's death, but was given a secret and non-hero's burial by pakis, who did the same to their soldiers after losing Kargil war!
Ya, I don’t understand this rush to label the F16 as not being good enough, there is enough experience over all these years to prove otherwise. I also think the PAK WC who was shot down and may have unfortunately died should be respected just as we respect our own. There is no need to use vulgar epithets to describe him, he died a soldier doing what his country asked of him.
 

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In 1 year from now, Indian airspace will be impregnable:

- S400 : can look and shoot aircraft inside Pak airspace, huge range, wide array of missiles.to engage
- Barak8 MRSAM (Army/IAF)
- Rafale : armed with Meteor MICA/SCALP missiles
- Aakash : SRSAM (more units ordered)
- Spyder/Derby : SRSAM (already deployed)
- LCA complementing MIG-21 in interceptor role
 

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Amid India-Pakistan crisis, India won the diplomacy round

When thinking about the initial international response to the India-Pakistan crisis, it is worth considering the dog that didn’t bark: what was not said.

Missing after the terrorist attack in Pulwama was any public American call for dialogue or restraint. Absent from most countries’ statements after the Indian Air Force strike was condemnation of it. The absence of these elements, which a decade or two ago would have been par for the course, offers us clues about the geopolitical landscape, and the changing nature of India and Pakistan’s relationships with various countries.

The US was quick to condemn the Pulwama attack and repeatedly called for Pakistan to take action against terrorists operating from its territory. It has reportedly also worked with France on the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) statement, at the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to keep Pakistan grey-listed, and in the 1267 committee to get Masood Azhar designated as a terrorist. It also pressed Pakistan to release Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman. The US response has been shaped by its strategic and economic interests with India, particularly in the context of its competition with China. But it also reflects the capital that India had earned with years of restraint after provocations, and Washington’s own frustration with Pakistan on the issue of terrorism.

For China and Saudi Arabia, as well as the United Arab Emirates, the crisis has put them in a fix. It’s pitted their traditional ties with Pakistan against their India imperatives.

The latter is why China, too, did not initially condemn the IAF strike. For Beijing, this is yet another time that its ally Pakistan has complicated its larger interests.

It has wanted to reset the temperature with India because of its uncertainty about the Trump Administration. China’s broader strategic competition with the US means it wants to stabilise the relationship with India and keep it from moving even closer to the US. But this crisis has highlighted the limits of the reset and that fundamental problems between China and India remain, including the Sino-Pakistani alliance. Almost as bad from Beijing’s perspective would be that the crisis has given the US — and its allies like Australia and France — a chance to show support in contrast with China’s obstructionism.

China will know, however, that its leverage with Pakistan and position in the UNSC and the FATF give Delhi reasons to continue to engage with Beijing.

Delhi’s sense of Beijing’s utility will likely be shaped by what role China has played — and will play — in urging Pakistan toward de-escalation and counterterrorism actions. In some past crises, Beijing has privately pressured Pakistan, partly by indicating the limits of its support.

But, if Beijing has been unhelpful or inactive in this regard, Delhi will keep that in mind.

Indian policymakers will also likely remember the Russian response. Moscow’s public statements have been minimal.

Here, too, what’s been missing is striking: unlike after the Uri attack, no mention or condemnation of the Pakistan angle —despite greater Indians efforts to woo Russia with energy and defence deals over the last two years. Moscow will be aware, however, that any negative consequences will likely be limited by Delhi’s sense that Moscow is best kept onside. Because, even if Russia is not helpful, it could be harmful in settings like the UNSC or the Russia-India-China trilateral, or vis-à-vis other Indian interests.

Delhi will be more pleased with the Saudi and Emirati reaction. They reportedly played a role in the captured pilot’s release, and refused Islamabad’s request to disinvite External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation meeting. India is now useful to these two countries. It is the fastest growing oil consumer at a time their other customers are looking to other energy sources. It is a relatively attractive investment destination at a time they are looking for alternative sources of revenue. It is unlikely to criticise Riyadh or Abu Dhabi for their behaviour at home or abroad. And it is not a country they want to see get closer to their rivals Qatar and Iran.

It is crucial to remember that it is India’s strategic and economic clout — and utility — that has led to a more supportive environment.


//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/68236885.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


No no no!
Modi only makes foreign trips!!!!
Modi bad
Rahul good
 

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I never visited Paki fora, but have to say - chinese fora are paki fora. I really don't know what's wrong with chinese. They are lapping up ISPR propaganda non-stop. It must be 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' thing. CCP and ISPR are match made in heaven.

:rofl::rofl:
JF-17 shot down Su-30? Pakis are low IQ inbreds but Chinese also same?
 

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He actually worked on figuring out how to take out SU30MKI, but ended up taken out by Mig21. Must be out of syllabus exam for him :rofl::rofl:
His trouble didn't stop here, he bailed out with parashoot, since Pak spend more on defence and less on education, Jahil Pak awam can't read, when Pak public found him. They thought he was Indian Pilot, he was beaten to death. They can't read his name or PAF in English from his uniform.
 

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I never visited Paki fora, but have to say - chinese fora are paki fora. I really don't know what's wrong with chinese. They are lapping up ISPR propaganda non-stop. It must be 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' thing. CCP and ISPR are match made in heaven.

:rofl::rofl:
JF-17 shot down Su-30? Pakis are low IQ inbreds but Chinese also same?
chinese are breeding the pakis ..
sooooo..
 

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In 1 year from now, Indian airspace will be impregnable:

- S400 : can look and shoot aircraft inside Pak airspace, huge range, wide array of missiles.to engage
- Barak8 MRSAM (Army/IAF)
- Rafale : armed with Meteor MICA/SCALP missiles
- Aakash : SRSAM (more units ordered)
- Spyder/Derby : SRSAM (already deployed)
- LCA complementing MIG-21 in interceptor role
That's future, let's talk present.

What I can't understand, why on earth when 12-24 Pak fighters airborne, we had such low numbers of fighter planes on our side????
 

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Bhai @Raheel1991 our proof is that your pilot is dead! :bounce:

Aukat ho to tu hume ye banda zinda dikha...


Atleast Shahzad-ud-din ka bap Retd. Air Marshal Waseem-Ud-Din, ka statement... that his son is still alive. :hat::hat:

Guys can this plz be our only reply to the goat-fuckers from now on?.. ON ANY SOCAL MEDIA PLATFORM.
It's kinda weird to see you guys giving logical answers to an inbred muzzie for pages..
@brational @A chauhan @thethinker @advprashantbsr @SkullCrusher @Defcon 1 @Joker @mayfair @Roshan @Darth Malgus @Hiranyaksha @IndiaRising @sorcerer @bose @Sikhbrah @maomao @shankyz @Indx TechStyle @

Post it on Zaid Hamid Twitter feed.
Hes doing his Mujra all over
 

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That's future, let's talk present.

What I can't understand, why on earth when 12-24 Pak fighters airborne, we had such low numbers of fighter planes on our side????
We never disclosed our total numbers categorically..
The spokesperson said ..A PACKAGE of paki planes.
and
also...that We scrambled a few of our jets..
I dont know if I have missed the categorical presentation of the events from our side OFFICIALLY.
 

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That's future, let's talk present.

What I can't understand, why on earth when 12-24 Pak fighters airborne, we had such low numbers of fighter planes on our side????
Not all actually ingressed. India had a similar package but only around 3 went all the way in.
One cannot have 24/7 CAP ops in every sector with a large package.
 

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In 1 year from now, Indian airspace will be impregnable:

- S400 : can look and shoot aircraft inside Pak airspace, huge range, wide array of missiles.to engage
- Barak8 MRSAM (Army/IAF)
- Rafale : armed with Meteor MICA/SCALP missiles
- Aakash : SRSAM (more units ordered)
- Spyder/Derby : SRSAM (already deployed)
- LCA complementing MIG-21 in interceptor role
The difference between the two is widening in very fast pace ... after 5 years just imagine ...
 

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India ready to extend support to Pakistan to fight against terrorism on its soil: Rajnath Singh

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

"Not only India, many other countries are hit by terrorism today but I want to tell you...have confidence...this will not go on forever...the prime minister has taken a decision that a decisive battle should be launched for its (terrorism) end and it has already begun," he said.

:laugh::laugh::)"If Pakistan thinks it does not have the strength to deal with terrorism, it can seek the help of its neighbouring country India.":):laugh::laugh:

"Pakistan will either have to wipe out terrorism from its soil on its own or else such a situation will be created that terror bases will be wiped out from Pakistan and no power will be able to stop this," the home minister asserted.

"India has shown to the world that it has the strength to not only strike from its soil, if required, we can also strike on the soil of other country as we have this strength," he said.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/ind...rorism-on-its-soil-rajnath-singh-6184771.html


pakis.....ITs not a fight against pakistan....Its a fight against terrorism..if pakistan is opposing India means that pakistan is supporting terrorism..
:hehe::hehe:
le master trole

...............
 

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Disgraced paki army will never admit that Shahzaz Ud Din died in the line of duty, because he was flying F16 twin seater, got it shot down and the fate of 3rd pilot is unknown, later disgarced pakis may come out and say that he died in an accident some years back or something similar.

It's not that pakis are saving their face, however US of A is breathing doen their throats, as Americans know these disgraced pakis got their ace F16 shot down by a vintage Mig21, it will hit F16 sales to the world.

Respect to paki WC Shahzaz Ud Din who died flying F16!
Well, a Nation Standing on the pillars of duplicity, Lies, Deception and Religious extremism is a disgrace to mankind. The ideologies are Stopping Pakistan to accept the death of their Soldiers publicly. What a Shameless Country! My Respect to Shahzaz Ud Din and his family for their great sacrifice to satisfy the unfounded egos of a Failed Terrorist State.
 
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