India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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So India has to worry about Pakistan terrorist strikes so they do nothing, terrorists then strike but india is worried about pakjabi nuclear blackmail but India (supposedly) calls its bluff then Indians say we have to worry about Chinese if we successfully respond to Pakistan

Its like Indians are constantly trying to talk themselves out of standing up for themselves.

In the west they have a saying india needs to learn by heart like a mantra

" Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

Indians have been dying in the tens of thousand on their knees..not even living..because of pakijabi terrorism
 

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IAF was expecting retaliation and they immediately responded to PAF swarm. However, they were still restrained by rules of engagement and the prevailing situation
1. RoEs stated that enemy aircraft could not be fired upon till they breached the LoC, which only 1 or 2 of them did.

2. There was civilian traffic on our side and blindly firing BVRs in such a scenario is a recipe for disaster. Now imagine if a BVR had brought down a civilian airliner- the catastrophe and its outcome would have been humongous. Napakis being Napakis care nought for such niceties and international norms.

3. Responding to an attack has several elements- intercept, repel and if necessary down and destroy. IAF successfully intercepted the attack formation, repelled them and prevented them from carrying out any of their objectives and in the process downed an enemy jet.

Furthermore, IAF had an invaluable experience of fighting in a network-centric environment with our indigenous Netra platform guiding the IAF assets like a grandmaster moving around pieces on the chess board.

Also, Napakis fired multiple AMRAAMs, all of which were neutralised by the Countermeasures deployed by our jets- training validated in war-like environment and provided invaluable data on AMRAAM signatures, capabilities and enemy tactics. I can only imagine, our folks taking a long hard look at the AMRAAM fragments and wheels turning on how to leverage the wealth of data on missile design, capability and countermeasures.

There's no better teacher than wetting one's beak in combat and IAF pilots did just that.

Wg Cmdr Abhinandan went through the ringer- responding to enemy invasion,
intercepting and engaging enemy jets,
high-octane chase followed by locking on and downing the bandit,
getting shot down in the process, bailing out over enemy territory,
taken PoW and subject to enemy "hospitality"
returning home in 60 hours as a hero,
being officially credited as the first ever IAF pilot to bring down an F-16.
 

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You're an asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me you are bigger asshole as you are ready to die and cause sufferings to our population despite the other party clearly making their intent known and you want to die.

Stop being a Gandhi.
 

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Yep! What gives??
Also, IAF pilots knew immediately that the Paki jets were attacking the Brigade HQ. One of the Su-30MKI started circling the HQ to thwart further attack. It is said that the quick response is the reason why Pakis couldn't target the bombs correctly (and much damage was prevented).
But yes, why didn't other jets fire at the Pakis?? WHY?? WHY?? Tired of this restraint!!!

If Abhinandan 'violated' any standing orders and took a shot at F16 then big KUDOS to him!!!
there was no restrictions. IAF was given free hand......the reason IAF didnt fire any BVRM coz they didnt carried any and they never thought that pakis with there junk planes will even dare too......but they did and we were sitting like duck. now all that BS that we thwart big attack on battalion HQ and all
 

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there was no restrictions. IAF was given free hand......
Read the RoEs again. IAF was given free hand to restrain but not strike until the strike package crossed the LoC.

Before spouting BS, do read up on the available information and grammar as well.
 

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Bro, Bangladesh and Indonesia are alrighty coz they have no rogue elements running the govt despite being Islamic. Wahhabism is the real problem and due to Identity Crisis of these Pakis,they tend to identify themselves with Arabs and their doctrines. Hence the mujahids and begums supporting them. Once we break Porkland into 4 and establish a colonial legacy governance with a strong constitution,they will definitely come to their senses and put a crackdown on those Wahhabi Maulvis. Education and Liberalisation of laws can change even a hardcore Islamic nation like Iraq. All we need is a good government setup. Children and women learn from their surroundings. It is a horrendous sin to murder them. Please reconsider ur stance and change the rhetoric. Every1 is vexed with Islamic fanatism jus like u. But, seriously,how can we even think of harming Children?!!Pls re-think ur position.
This is the same thinking where we left Muslims to live their way and that is why Hindus today are only 50% of subcontinent.
 

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Read the RoEs again. IAF was given free hand to restrain but not strike until the strike package crossed the LoC.

Before spouting BS, do read up on the available information and grammar as well.
read statement of IAF paki crossed in indian airspace.......not only they entered but also fired missiles and drop bomb......there was no restrain on either IAF or Army to take them down......the only reason they didnt take them down coz IAF that time didnt had any weaponry so IAF were only jamming f16 radars nothing else
 

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there was no restrictions. IAF was given free hand......the reason IAF didnt fire any BVRM coz they didnt carried any and they never thought that pakis with there junk planes will even dare too......but they did and we were sitting like duck. now all that BS that we thwart big attack on battalion HQ and all
Dude! This has got to stop!
Su-30MKI, Mirage-2000 & Mig-21 Bison assigned to an interdiction role or a CAP role will have a BVR as standard fitment.
Please stop spreading some imaginary notions!
 

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Dude! This has got to stop!
Su-30MKI, Mirage-2000 & Mig-21 Bison assigned to an interdiction role or a CAP role will have a BVR as standard fitment.
Please stop spreading some imaginary notions!
why don't u ask IAF that Question......
 

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Well I'm no fan of this so called strategic restraint. This same restraint by Vajpayee govt, in not allowing forces to cross the LC, the may have cost us several Ives and took us longer time to complete operation Vijay.... No point in waging war with one hand tied to your back. Our should be allowed to go to the battle with their weapons drawn and their safety switches off....
 

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Well I'm no fan of this so called strategic restraint. This same restraint by Vajpayee govt, in not allowing forces to cross the LC, the may have cost us several Ives and took us longer time to complete operation Vijay.... No point in waging war with one hand tied to your back. Our should be allowed to go to the battle with their weapons drawn and their safety switches off....
Why go to a war at all when you are not ready. Army wont be combat ready for a 30 day high intensity war for at least another year,

Before you come out to flame me take a pause

Tanks which are not night fighting ready
Severe lack of Tank Killer Choppers
Lack of critical ammunition for a 30 day war
are some of the issues which Army commanders themselves have highlighted
 

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Dude! This has got to stop!
Su-30MKI, Mirage-2000 & Mig-21 Bison assigned to an interdiction role or a CAP role will have a BVR as standard fitment.
Please stop spreading some imaginary notions!
If we have to believe that we can never use our missiles because of some civilian aircraft presence (even if it’s behind the fighters), we might as well tell our pilots to forget all about the missiles and they can open the canopy and shoot at enemy jets with their pistols.:frusty:
 

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Guys.. I have been a mute spectator on this thread, now just to play devil's advocate why didn't we brought the whole complex down?? Why do we need a scalpel to cut the tumor when u can cut off the whole limb?

As I see the roofs are not hardened, looks more like tin sheets/ clay. Did we really needed a penentrator round to breach them? A gravity bomb would have done the job I believe.

Killing trainers and trainees won't harm Pakistan much they have 1000 there to replace them. If IAF had brought down the whole complex atleast they would have spent money to build it all over again. I felt this worked out cheap for them.

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I am guessing the first penetrator/s had frag warheads(the structure would remain intact) so that the paki pigs not killed both in the main and in different structures, and also anywhere near the area could escape from the area.
This allowed the next wave of IAF fighters to drop their FAE warhead laden bombs killing the jihadi goat fuckers who were trying to escape.
 

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Well if it's an all out war, then we won't be talking about strategic restraint.. Would we?.... The whole point of carrying out strikes deep into Pakistan, was to display to ourselves, as much to the world, that India's policy of strategic restraint has been dumped. So once a policy has been dumped, why the half hearted attempt to resurrect it. When you throw away any restraint while attacking, why show restraint when defending. If it was left to me,, I would say we should have locked and fired on any combat jet moving towards our airspace (whether within BVR or WVR.)
 
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