India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

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This is Imran letting the awam know that they will get pulverized in a conventional war. The awam is quite high on anger and hatred and want war and Imran be like calm the f down else we will get mowed AGAIN, this AGAIN being the key word.

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In the next couple of weeks it will become amply clear whose lapdog Dimran actually is...Saud or Xiina.
 

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After repeated nuclear threat, Imran Khan acknowledges Pakistan could lose in war with India
Updated Sep 15, 2019 | 08:51 IST | Times Now Digital
Pakistan PM Imran Khan believes that wars do not solve problems. He said that war has unintended consequences. Khan said that Kashmir is a potential disaster that will go way beyond the Indian subcontinent

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Pakistan PM Imran Khan



Key Highlights
  • Pakistan PM, however, said that he was not in favour of war
  • Khan said Kashmir is a potential disaster that will go way beyond the Indian subcontinent
  • Khan had earlier issued the threat of a nuclear war with India over Kashmir
Islamabad: Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, who has been warning India of nuclear war over Kashmir issue of late, has now tacitly acknowledged that Islamabad could lose in a conventional war with India.

The Pakistan PM, however, said that he was not in favour of war and reiterated that his country would never start a nuclear war.

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Khan further said that if Pakistan loses the war with India then it would fight to the death for freedom.

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"But I am clear that when two nuclear-armed countries fight a conventional war, there is every possibility of it ending in a nuclear war. If I say Pakistan, God forbid, and in a conventional war, and we are losing, and if a country is stuck between two choices, either you surrender or fight to the death for your freedom. I know Pakistan will fight to the death for freedom, when a nuclear-armed country fights to the death, there are consequences,” he added.
Everytime someone from Pakistan threatens us with Nuclear weapons, I remember this dialogue of Samuel Jackson from Avengers:

"How desperate am I? You threaten my world with war, you steal a force you can't hope to control, you talk about peace, and you kill 'cause it's fun. You have made me very desperate. You might not be glad that you did."
 

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His repetitive mention of nukes makes 2 things very clear.
1- He doesn't has confidence in his armed forces.
2- He doesn't has guts to use nukes.
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Niazi is a egomaniac, he knows that if any war happens during his tenure, his name will forever be sullied in history books...

And also he is just confirming that there won’t be conventional war, he is not saying there won’t be sub-conventional war using tangos..

Basically same old same old.. still two more months to go till winter starts.. let’s see what happens...
 

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After repeated nuclear threat, Imran Khan acknowledges Pakistan could lose in war with India
Updated Sep 15, 2019 | 08:51 IST | Times Now Digital
Pakistan PM Imran Khan believes that wars do not solve problems. He said that war has unintended consequences. Khan said that Kashmir is a potential disaster that will go way beyond the Indian subcontinent

Photo Credit: PTI
Pakistan PM Imran Khan



Key Highlights
  • Pakistan PM, however, said that he was not in favour of war
  • Khan said Kashmir is a potential disaster that will go way beyond the Indian subcontinent
  • Khan had earlier issued the threat of a nuclear war with India over Kashmir
Islamabad: Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, who has been warning India of nuclear war over Kashmir issue of late, has now tacitly acknowledged that Islamabad could lose in a conventional war with India.

The Pakistan PM, however, said that he was not in favour of war and reiterated that his country would never start a nuclear war.

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.

Khan further said that if Pakistan loses the war with India then it would fight to the death for freedom.

RELATED NEWS:

'Nuke war between India-Pak could've dangerous consequences'


Have 125-250 gram N-bombs to target India: Pakistan minister

"But I am clear that when two nuclear-armed countries fight a conventional war, there is every possibility of it ending in a nuclear war. If I say Pakistan, God forbid, and in a conventional war, and we are losing, and if a country is stuck between two choices, either you surrender or fight to the death for your freedom. I know Pakistan will fight to the death for freedom, when a nuclear-armed country fights to the death, there are consequences,” he added.
He doesn't know that even we want to make free Pakistan from salwaar Army.
We are not gonna stay in Pakistan forever to add more population in India, but we are gonna create 4 more Bangladesh around us and will leave the land. This region will be peaceful forever.
 

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Niazi is a egomaniac, he knows that if any war happens during his tenure, his name will forever be sullied in history books...
He is an egomaniac. Imagine the popular kid in western highschool. That's him. All style and no substance. He's from military's nursery so he knows the history. But anyone who got the power of PM, be it Nawaz, Benazir or her father, everyone rejected military's tune and tried to be independent and sought autonomy.
Niazi is famous for being wild horse and people see him that way. But we know he's been hogtied by PA.

Question is, will he resist if things go south or will he stay tied down ?

And also he is just confirming that there won’t be conventional war, he is not saying there won’t be sub-conventional war using tangos..
There's another way to look at Imu's statements and rants. Maybe he is defusing the Jihadi population of Pakistan. He's carefully venting out the anger of citizens by his rants and rallys and that 30 min thing. Before people start acting like crazy, getting out on streets, he's doing it for them. He successfully managed to avoid any civil unrest. And now, he's gradually telling them to accept that they cannot go for a war and they can't go nuclear on India. He's telling them to accept the reality.


Basically same old same old.. still two more months to go till winter starts.. let’s see what happens...
Late 2019 and early 2020 is going to be very interesting. We may see Kargil 2.0.
 

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There's another way to look at Imu's statements and rants. Maybe he is defusing the Jihadi population of Pakistan. He's carefully venting out the anger of citizens by his rants and rallys and that 30 min thing. Before people start acting like crazy, getting out on streets, he's doing it for them. He successfully managed to avoid any civil unrest. And now, he's gradually telling them to accept that they cannot go for a war and they can't go nuclear on India. He's telling them to accept the reality.
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I agree with most of the stuff you said but I think pakjabi army will try a skirmish.
They will have to sacrifice thousands of baloch and pashtun soldiers to feed the inhouse propaganda machinery.
Then there will be propaganda against India like how few porki momins killed thousands of hindu soldiers and india ran to america and since america is our ally we have to give kashmir to india.
You know the regular evil hindu, yahoodi and amreeki sazish bashing & the jahil awam will return back to their
normal life only to find that naan and tamatar are now a luxury.
 

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He is an egomaniac. Imagine the popular kid in western highschool. That's him. All style and no substance. He's from military's nursery so he knows the history. But anyone who got the power of PM, be it Nawaz, Benazir or her father, everyone rejected military's tune and tried to be independent and sought autonomy.
Niazi is famous for being wild horse and people see him that way. But we know he's been hogtied by PA.

Question is, will he resist if things go south or will he stay tied down ?



There's another way to look at Imu's statements and rants. Maybe he is defusing the Jihadi population of Pakistan. He's carefully venting out the anger of citizens by his rants and rallys and that 30 min thing. Before people start acting like crazy, getting out on streets, he's doing it for them. He successfully managed to avoid any civil unrest. And now, he's gradually telling them to accept that they cannot go for a war and they can't go nuclear on India. He's telling them to accept the reality.




Late 2019 and early 2020 is going to be very interesting. We may see Kargil 2.0.
And there is an incentive for niazi to keep anti-India narrative going, to make an attempt to distract paki citizens from economy downturn..
 

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And there is an incentive for niazi to keep anti-India narrative going, to make an attempt to distract paki citizens from economy downturn..
True. People are distracted from Maryam and Bilawal and the economy. Imran, Fawad, Sheikh are trying their best to keep the mango Abduls entertained. It's also good for the army because if people started demanding a military action, they'll be in a really tight spot.
But problems won't go away just because you stopped looking at them. How long can they keep them distracted ?
Economy, internal politics, terrorist groups, China's debt, Baloch freedom fighters, American agenda, Afganistan, bloody indians and now Sindh. Their hands are full and the clock is ticking.....
 

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Assam Rifles may soon be merged with ITBP
The government is working on a plan to divest the Army of operational control over India’s oldest paramilitary force Assam Rifles, responsible for guarding Myanmar border, and is likely to merge it with ITBP, which guards borders along China.

Sources in the government said the proposal might soon be placed before the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), but not before the MHA gave its approval.

The Assam Rifles was formed in 1835 as ‘Cachar Levy’ to guard the alluvial plains of Assam against tribes. Sources said once the control issue was resolved, Assam Rifles could be merged with ITBP and given responsibility of guarding Myanmar border. They said reason for doing so was to ensure ITBP got better operational manoeuvrability by rotating personnel from difficult Himalayan posting to Myanmar border plains.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/assam-rifles-may-soon-be-merged-with-itbp/832604.html
 

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Assam Rifles may soon be merged with ITBP
The government is working on a plan to divest the Army of operational control over India’s oldest paramilitary force Assam Rifles, responsible for guarding Myanmar border, and is likely to merge it with ITBP, which guards borders along China.

Sources in the government said the proposal might soon be placed before the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), but not before the MHA gave its approval.

The Assam Rifles was formed in 1835 as ‘Cachar Levy’ to guard the alluvial plains of Assam against tribes. Sources said once the control issue was resolved, Assam Rifles could be merged with ITBP and given responsibility of guarding Myanmar border. They said reason for doing so was to ensure ITBP got better operational manoeuvrability by rotating personnel from difficult Himalayan posting to Myanmar border plains.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/assam-rifles-may-soon-be-merged-with-itbp/832604.html
Bad idea. Assam Rifles should be viewed as RR of NE.
 

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Assam Rifles may soon be merged with ITBP
The government is working on a plan to divest the Army of operational control over India’s oldest paramilitary force Assam Rifles, responsible for guarding Myanmar border, and is likely to merge it with ITBP, which guards borders along China.

Sources in the government said the proposal might soon be placed before the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), but not before the MHA gave its approval.

The Assam Rifles was formed in 1835 as ‘Cachar Levy’ to guard the alluvial plains of Assam against tribes. Sources said once the control issue was resolved, Assam Rifles could be merged with ITBP and given responsibility of guarding Myanmar border. They said reason for doing so was to ensure ITBP got better operational manoeuvrability by rotating personnel from difficult Himalayan posting to Myanmar border plains.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/assam-rifles-may-soon-be-merged-with-itbp/832604.html
That is a bad thinking and bureaucratic plan to increase their largesse.

Assam Rifles is a fine Paramilitary . Make it an ITBP outfit and India would require minimum three more division to guad Myanmar border.

Myanmar border at times becomes more active than LC with Pakistan with far more difficult terrain and far better insurgents / terrorists than Pakistani Abduls.

ITBP deployment anywhere on Indian border necessitates keeping Army divisions behind them. ITBP under no circumstances reduces Army strength.

In case of Assam Rifles, the case is opposite. Assam Rifles on Myanmar border does not necessitates keeping Army divisions just behind them essentially for two reasons. Firstly it is under command Army, and secondly officered and led by Army. they are much better trained and experienced for operations in NE.

ITBP would not be anywhere near specially after its reorganisation as all india reservationist / OBC force having no cohesion. Indian Army will have to create additional forces to look after Myanmar border, Nagaland, Manipur and Tripura. Just watch and see.

I hope some sense prevails with Motu Bhai and IPS lobby is not able to hoodwink him this time around. They have been trying it for last fifty years.
 
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