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5 terrorists arrested...............
India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019
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Because it is manufactured in Pakistan.This Mushak aircraft keeps on crashing every now and then. What a piece of shit...
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To what end are we going to pursue artillery strikes? unless we are taking over ground and pushing the LoC outwards,
https://theprint.in/opinion/artille...-for-impact-india-needs-more-balakots/400048/
https://theprint.in/opinion/artille...-for-impact-india-needs-more-balakots/400048/
Unless everyone who matters is playing a joke on us, there was something on the cards. The time line is debatable.
Army chiefs. Central Ministers had joined the PoK chorus. I was expecting something this summer (despite everyone around telling me it wont happen - I am too optimistic sometimes)
Now with COVID19 we can safely say - nothing will happen in the near future.
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Decent article.
One more thing that must be covered is that this action of India will not be limited to this political party. All the parties must be brought on board to this course of action.
https://theprint.in/opinion/artille...-for-impact-india-needs-more-balakots/400048/
Artillery strikes on Pakistan will only bring good PR. For impact, India needs more Balakots
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Artillery strikes on Pakistan will only bring good PR. For impact, India needs more Balakots
India can flail around like a helpless giant, engaging in pointless artillery duels with Pakistan or increase penalty each time the neighbor crosses the line.
RAJESH RAJAGOPALAN13 April, 2020 10:04 am IST
Indian Army personnel in Srinagar | Photo: Praveen Jain | ThePrint
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The killing of five Indian Special Forces soldiers by Pakistan Army sponsored terrorists required an Indian military response. But not this. The effect of India’s retaliatory artillery strikes on Pakistan’s behavior is easy to predict: zero, zilch, nada. Though the drone footage of artillery shells falling on (presumably) Pakistani positions might impress India’s WhatsApp warriors, it is not going to change the Pakistan Army’s behavior even an iota.
This is easy to predict, partly because India has done this many times in the past, with no discernible effect. So there is no reason to expect the results this time to be any different. But mostly, it is an easy prediction because its logic appears to be the same as it always was: a publicity stunt to demonstrate that action was being taken rather than a calculated effort to deter future attacks.
Also read: Effect of surgical and Balakot strikes gone. Piecemeal policies against Pakistan won’t work
Pakistan won’t pause
Artillery attacks are the silliest form of military retaliation because Pakistan can easily reply in the same coin. Maybe Indian attacks will be more precise, or will kill more Pakistani soldiers, but these are marginal considerations for the Pakistan Army. The fact that India destroyed one more bunker than Pakistan did or that it managed to blow up a Pakistan ammunition dump will not even figure in Pakistan Army’s calculations, let alone alter that math. Don’t expect even a pause in the Pakistan Army’s effort to push terrorists into Kashmir.
Artillery and mortar duels across the LoC do not demonstrate Indian military’s superiority but rather a false military equivalence between the two sides. If Pakistan Army’s behavior is any guide, it actually breeds confidence that they can hold their own against India and that Pakistan is militarily as strong as India.
This is actually a lot worse than failing to deter Pakistan because it encourages the neighbour to continue its policy of supporting terror. The overriding impression – and hence the message – of India’s action is that it is unwilling or unable to escalate. This is disappointing because, in the last few years, India appeared to have overcome its traditional fear of escalation, as demonstrated by the surgical strike and the Balakot attack. What is in doubt now is India’s capacity to stay the course. Both those attacks broke the mould: the surgical strike because India openly claimed it, and the Balakot attack because India retaliated inside Pakistan’s territory for the first time.
Also read: Islamabad’s claim over Kabul gurdwara bomber ‘reeks of Pakistani conspiracy to save him’
India needs to continually penalise Pakistan
But occasional attacks like these will not suffice. New Delhi has to be prepared to militarily escalate each time Pakistan tests it. It should be prepared to escalate further if Pakistan responds to its escalation. Even in Balakot, India let Pakistan’s retaliatory attack go unanswered. Although there were some extenuating circumstances: one of India’s pilots had been shot down and was a prisoner and getting him back took precedence. Moreover, India had already undertaken a paradigm-breaking move. Both these factors provided a limited excuse for not escalating further.
New Delhi needs to address this key question: whether it is retaliating for show or effect? Until now, save the surgical strike and Balakot, India’s retaliation has been for show: to simply demonstrate that it was enraged. But it was an impotent rage, a flailing around that Pakistan could safely laugh it off while India suffered. It demonstrated more of India’s helplessness than its strength. Most unfortunately, it appeared to suggest that India’s conventional military superiority was useless in tackling Pakistan’s terror tactics.
The surgical strike and Balakot appeared to be the first step to suggest that India was moving towards retaliation for effect, to demonstrate to Pakistan that it could escalate in a manner that neighbour would not be able to match. Although none of the two attacks went as far as they should have, they at least ended the long-standing myth that any Indian escalation would lead to an uncontrolled action-reaction spiral, all the way to a nuclear exchange.
Also read: Many in J&K’s Sopore booked for lockdown violation as they attend Jaish militant’s funeral
Looking beyond Balakot
But these strikes needed to be followed up with further action to demonstrate that India has both the capacity and willingness to escalate. New Delhi should have used every serious terrorist attack as an excuse for escalation, and any military response from Pakistan as an excuse for further escalation.
The problem, of course, is that this requires discipline: it takes longer-term planning, careful preparation and calibrated action. Any Indian action would lead to a response. Indian reactions to all possible Pakistani responses need to be prepared prior to any action, even while fully realising that not everything can be predicted or controlled. But a dedicated deterrence strategy and disciplined preparation would give India a much better chance of dealing with the inevitable surprises that are bound to occur with any such enterprise.
Alternatively, India can flail around like a helpless giant, engaging in pointless artillery duels, because as sure as night follows day, we’ll be here again and again.
Artillery strikes on Pakistan will only bring good PR. For impact, India needs more Balakots
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Home Opinion
Artillery strikes on Pakistan will only bring good PR. For impact, India needs more Balakots
India can flail around like a helpless giant, engaging in pointless artillery duels with Pakistan or increase penalty each time the neighbor crosses the line.
RAJESH RAJAGOPALAN13 April, 2020 10:04 am IST
Indian Army personnel in Srinagar | Photo: Praveen Jain | ThePrint
Text Size:
The killing of five Indian Special Forces soldiers by Pakistan Army sponsored terrorists required an Indian military response. But not this. The effect of India’s retaliatory artillery strikes on Pakistan’s behavior is easy to predict: zero, zilch, nada. Though the drone footage of artillery shells falling on (presumably) Pakistani positions might impress India’s WhatsApp warriors, it is not going to change the Pakistan Army’s behavior even an iota.
This is easy to predict, partly because India has done this many times in the past, with no discernible effect. So there is no reason to expect the results this time to be any different. But mostly, it is an easy prediction because its logic appears to be the same as it always was: a publicity stunt to demonstrate that action was being taken rather than a calculated effort to deter future attacks.
Also read: Effect of surgical and Balakot strikes gone. Piecemeal policies against Pakistan won’t work
Pakistan won’t pause
Artillery attacks are the silliest form of military retaliation because Pakistan can easily reply in the same coin. Maybe Indian attacks will be more precise, or will kill more Pakistani soldiers, but these are marginal considerations for the Pakistan Army. The fact that India destroyed one more bunker than Pakistan did or that it managed to blow up a Pakistan ammunition dump will not even figure in Pakistan Army’s calculations, let alone alter that math. Don’t expect even a pause in the Pakistan Army’s effort to push terrorists into Kashmir.
Artillery and mortar duels across the LoC do not demonstrate Indian military’s superiority but rather a false military equivalence between the two sides. If Pakistan Army’s behavior is any guide, it actually breeds confidence that they can hold their own against India and that Pakistan is militarily as strong as India.
This is actually a lot worse than failing to deter Pakistan because it encourages the neighbour to continue its policy of supporting terror. The overriding impression – and hence the message – of India’s action is that it is unwilling or unable to escalate. This is disappointing because, in the last few years, India appeared to have overcome its traditional fear of escalation, as demonstrated by the surgical strike and the Balakot attack. What is in doubt now is India’s capacity to stay the course. Both those attacks broke the mould: the surgical strike because India openly claimed it, and the Balakot attack because India retaliated inside Pakistan’s territory for the first time.
Also read: Islamabad’s claim over Kabul gurdwara bomber ‘reeks of Pakistani conspiracy to save him’
India needs to continually penalise Pakistan
But occasional attacks like these will not suffice. New Delhi has to be prepared to militarily escalate each time Pakistan tests it. It should be prepared to escalate further if Pakistan responds to its escalation. Even in Balakot, India let Pakistan’s retaliatory attack go unanswered. Although there were some extenuating circumstances: one of India’s pilots had been shot down and was a prisoner and getting him back took precedence. Moreover, India had already undertaken a paradigm-breaking move. Both these factors provided a limited excuse for not escalating further.
New Delhi needs to address this key question: whether it is retaliating for show or effect? Until now, save the surgical strike and Balakot, India’s retaliation has been for show: to simply demonstrate that it was enraged. But it was an impotent rage, a flailing around that Pakistan could safely laugh it off while India suffered. It demonstrated more of India’s helplessness than its strength. Most unfortunately, it appeared to suggest that India’s conventional military superiority was useless in tackling Pakistan’s terror tactics.
The surgical strike and Balakot appeared to be the first step to suggest that India was moving towards retaliation for effect, to demonstrate to Pakistan that it could escalate in a manner that neighbour would not be able to match. Although none of the two attacks went as far as they should have, they at least ended the long-standing myth that any Indian escalation would lead to an uncontrolled action-reaction spiral, all the way to a nuclear exchange.
Also read: Many in J&K’s Sopore booked for lockdown violation as they attend Jaish militant’s funeral
Looking beyond Balakot
But these strikes needed to be followed up with further action to demonstrate that India has both the capacity and willingness to escalate. New Delhi should have used every serious terrorist attack as an excuse for escalation, and any military response from Pakistan as an excuse for further escalation.
The problem, of course, is that this requires discipline: it takes longer-term planning, careful preparation and calibrated action. Any Indian action would lead to a response. Indian reactions to all possible Pakistani responses need to be prepared prior to any action, even while fully realising that not everything can be predicted or controlled. But a dedicated deterrence strategy and disciplined preparation would give India a much better chance of dealing with the inevitable surprises that are bound to occur with any such enterprise.
Alternatively, India can flail around like a helpless giant, engaging in pointless artillery duels, because as sure as night follows day, we’ll be here again and again.
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Sometimes i felt India act like a weak nation. I am sorry but its truth.
Why don't India act like super-powers.
Why don't India act like super-powers.
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Yes I totally agree with you brother. We should use atmi bumb on pakistan like a shupar power.
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I don't know why but I read it in the voice of Aladeen from the Dictator movie
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Exactly what I was going for!!! Glad to know some one picked up on that reference!I don't know why but I read it in the voice of Aladeen from the Dictator movie
How exactly does a super power act ,Superman ?
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Really? Like supah powah US of A which has screwed up all its interventions from Vietnam to Congo, to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and the so called failed 'Color Revolutions' in the Central Asian Republics.
So no. The Super Powers don't have a frikkin clue of what they need to do! Chasing mirages for achieving a New World Order has come a cropper.
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Sorry guys. I know it felt very bad but as a normal indians we felt. The response should be like that no enemy can dare to rebound. I think in this we are lacking. Huge economy , huge army , huge reserve but still our response is tit for tat.
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India's response is half a dozen tits for a single Paki tat
Remember we are dealing with a atami pissful, so cant draw comparsons with IsRale or Unkil or Ruskies.
Our asymmetric warfare to fracture and implode Puky society and economy from within are already at advanced stages of execution.
Besides, Never interfere with a deranged foe who are in the process of destroying themselves.
Thus, have some patience in MSD & Team. Sit back, relax and enjoy the climax of the show in the next few years.
Pashitstan will disintegrate and tiny little nuke defanged pakjab is all that will remain by May 2024!
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