India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

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Was enjoying this thread,until 5/6 pages back, when it was "baited" & "derailed" by unnecessarily engaging on a topic with no relevance whatsoever to this thread.

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Thread will be back on rail when Pakistan really does something giving us a chance to retaliate :biggrin2::biggrin2: . Until then it will remain derailed for lack of issues to discuss.
 

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Was enjoying this thread,until 5/6 pages back, when it was "baited" & "derailed" by unnecessarily engaging on a topic with no relevance whatsoever to this thread.

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People like you who don't have a mind capable enough to see the big picture are the sole reason of our suffering for centuries.
 

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People like you who don't have a mind capable enough to see the big picture are the sole reason of our suffering for centuries.
Very well, if you're really as concerned and hurting inside for them oppressed Bangladeshi hindus, then why don't you go ahead and take up arms and then try and liberate your estranged brethren instead of wasting your time on an internet forum lecturing those whom you perceived to be the sole reason for your sufferings of centuries??
 

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jihadi cutlets approaching... hope kaafir hindu baniya is not sleeping
wow what nice ppl they giving final sendoff to their fellow Army man for their journey towards 72 whores (sry hoories) arranged By Indian army
 

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"Informal moving orders" == Pakistan is aware of a subconventional terror plot in India, and is moving its formations without leaving a paper-trail, to be ready for the Indian response.


Balakot was positioned as a preemptive strike. If there is significant and substantiated intelligence regarding an upcoming terror attack, should the government not act?
 

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Balakot was positioned as a preemptive strike. If there is significant and substantiated intelligence regarding an upcoming terror attack, should the government not act?
At this stage the agencies are probably filtering through a mountain of genuine threats and hot air coming from pakis. They may still have some sleeper-cells active in India.

Regardless, no amount of forward deployment can stop an Indian response. We own the escalation ladder in all domains:
  • Land: they can't infiltrate, end of story. Any paki who thinks they can do an Alamo on an Indian position will have to get the tar squeezed out of his brain.
  • Air: there are CAPs all over our border airspace, and unlike February, we've peppered LoC and IB with SAMs. I think they will spot the RADAR saturation on our side
  • Sea: Here the advantage is overwhelmingly in India's favour.
  • Subconventional: India's policy as of now is: respond to subconventional attacks conventionally
  • 0.5-front: Not happening. All State Police forces are on high combat alert. There's no swarm of armed Abduls pouring out of mosques anytime soon.
 

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At this stage the agencies are probably filtering through a mountain of genuine threats and hot air coming from pakis. They may still have some sleeper-cells active in India.

Regardless, no amount of forward deployment can stop an Indian response. We own the escalation ladder in all domains:
  • Land: they can't infiltrate, end of story. Any paki who thinks they can do an Alamo on an Indian position will have to get the tar squeezed out of his brain.
  • Air: there are CAPs all over our border airspace, and unlike February, we've peppered LoC and IB with SAMs. I think they will spot the RADAR saturation on our side
  • Sea: Here the advantage is overwhelmingly in India's favour.
  • Subconventional: India's policy as of now is: respond to subconventional attacks conventionally
  • 0.5-front: Not happening. All State Police forces are on high combat alert. There's no swarm of armed Abduls pouring out of mosques anytime soon.
Gaming this scenario, if I was in their position, my first play would be an attack on Muslim population, in the valley if possible or the mainland if not, to try and lend credence to the anti-Muslim narrative.

Use the friends in media to shame GoI as well as incite Muslims to riot. Then when the government is distracted, use conventional force is possible.
 

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Gaming this scenario, if I was in their position, my first play would be an attack on Muslim population, in the valley if possible or the mainland if not, to try and lend credence to the anti-Muslim narrative.

Use the friends in media to shame GoI as well as incite Muslims to riot. Then when the government is distracted, use conventional force is possible.
Yup, that what Shekhar gupta gave clues at the end of his videos two days in a row......
 

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All these fake news or edited footage from BBC and Al-Jazeera means Paki is making grounds to attack India. Paki thought that removal of Art 370 will cause massive massive riots, at least more than when Burhan wani was killed but they are clutching at straws here.

Paki and everyone else knows situation will be back to normal in 6 months and once Kashmiri start getting huge influx of investments then they will become materialistic and won't care. Already Paki consider Kashmiris as inapt Jihadis.

Paki would have to interfere directly. They have given up on UN/OIC or other international support and now even Kashmiris are looking docile.
 

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Yup, that what Shekhar gupta gave clues at the end of his videos two days in a row......
So the question is how to we react? Obviously, we try to prevent the terror strikes but in case they succeed, what's our next move? Or do we strike preemptively like we did in Balakot?
 

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So the question is how to we react? Obviously, we try to prevent the terror strikes but in case they succeed, what's our next move? Or do we strike preemptively like we did in Balakot?
Same as what IA is doing these days, extract our pound of flesh at LOC on the paki posts thru which these tangos passed thru...
 

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Balakot was not preemptive . It was reaction to pulwama.
Maybe, maybe not. It was however, positoned by GoI as a pre-emeptive one.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ical-airstrike-in-pakistan-1465217-2019-02-26

Credible intelligence was received that JeM was attempting another suicide terror attack in various parts of the country, and the fidayeen jihadis were being trained for this purpose. In the face of imminent danger, a pre-emptive strike became absolutely necessary.
 

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Same as what IA is doing these days, extract our pound of flesh at LOC on the paki posts thru which these tangos passed thru...
If the Porkies succeed in carrying out a major terror strike, particularly on civilians, pounding on LoC would not suffice. There would be no option but war.

Problem with our policy is that it's not consistent. We justify Balakot as a pre-emeptive strike, so follow that precedent.

To prevent war, pre-emptive strikes are the only thing that makes sense, else be damn sure we can prevent the terrorists.
 

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My 2 Cens. I am not bothered about videos being authentic or not. We all knew that there would be some demonstrations, it was also there when terrorists were gunned down and we know how to handle them. Point to be seen is till where will Pakis push it militarily my bet is on them pushing JEM and HUM to pull of a spectacular terror attack and then onus will be on us to retaliate.

As reports are coming in about them moving heavy equipment and men, I think they are bracing for India's retaliation after the terror attack. Remember they dont have to win a confrontation, they only want to show there aam abduls that their Army is full Mard-e-mommins.
 
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