India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

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Hear this fukin Khalistani and American 'Kashmiri' tart spouting shit without any evidence. Their rants are beyond nonsensical. But the pseudo HR activists will lap it up so fast like there's no tomorrow and bash India with their false propaganda.

Sunanda Vashist has done a commendable job but the odds are squarely stacked against her seeing the amount of propaganda being spread by vested interests for the past 30 years especially the anti India forces egged on by the false narratives being spread by the ISI and other anti India outfits.

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Are we losing the perception war? We probably are, seeing that we do not have a well oiled counter propaganda machinery in place. It is beyond comprehension as to why we are giving short shrift to this very important aspect in geopolitics. In today's world it's perception that matters. We need to change our priorities soon or we will continue to be at the receiving end.

We lost the perception war when we became a secular democracy and Pakistan became the Islamic nation in 1947.

We did the wrong analyses of Pakistan's failure and reached to convenient conclusions.

'Hindu Pakistan' is an extract of that conclusion and now being used to hoodwink us.

From day one West is siding with Pakistan.

If we were such a great experiment and example of these values and Ideas then why we were seen with disdain by the Western champions of pluralism, free speech and democracy?

Have we forgotten our History post-Independence how we were treated?

The problem in Kashmir and Punjab started when Pakistan knew they have now got working nuclear device and the West who enforced so many nations to roll back their nuclear weapon programs knowingly ignored Pakistan.

Today we have only one narrative and that is The Hindu narrative.

Most of the arguments critical to this perception building which we are losing are because we are defensive about this Hindu narrative.

Because we are benign about the atrocities committed on us; because we have outsourced our fights to others and because we look up to their heroes who may not be that Ideal we are not being treated seriously.

Go to social media no Sikh, No Muslim, No Christian is siding with us. The pretence they are siding with India and India constitutionalism is just an alibi. Soon you stir them enough their hatred for Hindu, Hinduism, Brahmins, Hindu Nationalism spills out stinkingly. How their hatred for us can become uniting but our reaction divisive?

How can Sikh, Muslim, Christian politics be acceptable but Hindu politics is majoritarianism?

These cults founded themself by institutionalizing victimhood and now when they have reached to critical strength they themselves have started attacking us and undermining the same nation-state that protected their rights. You scratch them and the very first thing they do is burn your flag and burn your constitution.

How dare these cults can tell Hindus that they are no one of us?

Sorry, we can not be like you, can never be. Do not take those creeps seriously who say we are same.
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Our salvation is in 'Being Different' not same.

As far as the western world in today's context is a concern then the Chicken will come home to roost soon for them. They are telling India that if Muslims demography outbreeds you they deserve the right to self-determination. That will never happen in India but soon their towns will become crowded and we will see how they deal with those demands.

The last point of expecting political dispensation doing something especially Modi and superman Ajit Doval is a recipe of disaster.

This is nothing but AVTARWAAD of stupid Hindus relying on the political party but themselves not doing anything. The Hindu inertia, the paucity of activism, and the inability to mobilize from grass root level which creates pressure on both side of the politics is the main culprit of our miseries.
 
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So Pakistan has gone further than what Zulfikar Ali Bhutto envisaged, of eating Grass, they are now envisaging eating LOCUST BIRYANI.......:rofl::rofl::pound::pound:
Pakis can open their mouth and stand in the field for that extra protein top up like :lawl:
 

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Good overview for those who interested about india and kashmir in British politics and policies.

Main point this guy makes is British ideologically think that kashmir is unfinished agenda of Partition.

The thing which is happening today is connected to past when queen was visiting india and tensions between india and Pakistan was alll time high and Indian government did tried to make stop queen from visiting india. Because of their dubious role of meddling between indian sovereignty then this dope guy did things in right way.
new Labour foreign secretary, reportedly told Pakistani journalists informally that Britain would “take up the issue of Kashmir with India” and help mediate the conflict.

His comments sparked outrage in India. Then Prime Minister I.K. Gujral, who was in Egypt at the time, responded in anger: he called Britain a “third-rate power” at a gathering of intellectuals in Cairo. His description was a reference to a statement Lord Curzon had made in 1901, when he said that as long as the British ruled India, they would be the greatest power in the world. “If we lost it, we shall drop straight away to a third rate power,” he said. Curzon was then the Viceroy of India.
 

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Why do we even entertain these human right ******s.
What are they even gonna do to us if we don't answers them?

Does America ever give Reason why its police is killing niggas daily. Why should we?
These are institutional mechanisms created in the aftermath of WW2, as long as status quo continues not much can change.

As things stand to day, Nobody other than China seems to have the appetite to change the world order. And China doesn’t seem to be interested in cultivating powerful allies either, they want to go solo.
 

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These are institutional mechanisms created in the aftermath of WW2, as long as status quo continues not much can change.

As things stand to day, Nobody other than China seems to have the appetite to change the world order. And China doesn’t seem to be interested in cultivating powerful allies either, they want to go solo.
Thats why i sincerely believe , we need to mend our disputes with China and overall Asia inclufiin Porkistan. Cracks in Asia are cleverly exploited by the west while vice versa is impossible
 

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Thats why i sincerely believe , we need to mend our disputes with China and overall Asia inclufiin Porkistan. Cracks in Asia are cleverly exploited by the west while vice versa is impossible
And China has shown no inclination to have a partner, we are not the problem here. They want to do it solo, their military buildup is proof of that.

If they want India as a partner, they would show willingness to solve Ladakh issue. But they haven’t so far.
 

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Respect to her for telling her story while being surrounded by bigots and terror sponsors.

That being said, I feel we should stop wasting our energy and resources by responding on these useless "HR" panels! We r giving validity to such hoax panels by speaking in front of those arrogant American morons who have permanently closed their eyes to the truth.

If we want to change the perception then it should be done on a grand scale by the govt. As we develop as a nation, criticisms and attacks will mount. As a nation, we need to develop thicker skin. I honestly do not care what these people think about India or Indians.
Counter narrative is needed proportional to the amt of NPCs a country has.

Let me explain first what an NPC is first.It is a person who gets his complete worldview from outside sources or narratives instead of observing and thinking for themselves.There are degrees of NPCs,some who have some observational skill to those who are completely reliant on outside news stories.One must remember that Gandhi Ji was completely and utterly wrong: Truth does not win,power and it's application wins you the day.

A countries NPCs must be suerged in its own countries self serving narrative or else they will be controlled by someone else's.these people are apart from anti-nationals who are consiously doing their activities.

China completely emerges their NPCs in their own self serving positive narrative and even pak does it more than india.it is not an expensive thing as even pakis do it so why doesn't india follow it.

The answer I suspect it seems i think partially government does not believe in narrative building itself just like Gandhi(which is unfortunate as a lot of what holds india back came from and more we distance ourselves from him the better,I'm being a brutally honest atheist).Partially india government was slow and incompetent on it.

The reason Pakis do it is becuz that is all they have in terms of cost effective steps infront of India apart from terrorism.it keeps their internal cohesion higher than it should be and thereby reduce the upkeep required to their societies collective psyche.Their people can take a lot of material suffering more partially becuz of this and partially becuz they never had a high standard of living.

The reason Pakis do not have such a high value in the world despite these practices is that narrative building propaganda like all things has its limits and conditions.it is very hard to gloss over the fact that Pakis produce a lot of terrorism and a lot of unrest in the form of blasts in their own cities, perpetual bad economy,no achievements whatsoever,etc.

But inspite of this the story telling propaganda of Pakis keeps the value of paki stock inflated than its real value like lipstick on a pig.

The reason the Chinese are an example to follow for us is that they have not only this narrative building done well,they have also worked hard when all is said and done so it is like make up on good looking woman producing an azing looking woman.their effort is holistic with good economy,miltary,education,science,etc and top of which this propanganda works and it honestly gets the job done which means a Chinese NPC will be far less trusting of outside hr councils or whatever and far more vigorous in defending their own countries on national causes.

So india is as a country more towards china than Pakistan in terms of development model than Pakistan even though there is more albeit rapidly declining cultural similarity between india and pak as Pakistan embraces the Arab Identity and india goes back to its roots.

The work india should do is improve the base of economy,wealth, scientific pursuit,infra,etc (it will be slow and will only come in due time) and in parallel build a grand narrative that is self serving like any country who aspires to be a superpower.
This is why building the Ram temple,isro launching mars mission,chandrayaan,india mastering new any tech,etc should not be seen in isolation or just a money waste,or just a simple technology pursuit as it plays a wider undercurrent of enhancing our societies stand,making us more confident to defend our story,etc.this is why anti nationals cry when we reach such a milestone as it ruins and reverses their progress.we should understand this and make our own NPCs understand this too.
 

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I don't think average india cares much about white man opinion even if they does after years of blood shed in kashmir no one have sympathy for them.
And some individuals don't like the US at all because of 1971 issue and sometimes because of napaki F-16 sales. Indian's in general have not much of support for foreign powers. Their is some kind of historic + negative mindset embedded deep into rural public.
It's only socialist nibbas who think they can target sanghis on the basis of what American or British or EU says. Or foreign Indian origin people who think certain things done by indian government can decrease their reputation.
Nowadays public support crushing Pakistan.
The Reason I said hindus care whites think about them is because how Hindus or Indians get emotional because whites don’t support them in Kashmir. Who cares what they think about our policies and we don’t interfere in there business so they don’t power to get into ours. For Example Trump can’t intervene in Kashmir it’s impossible on so many levels without Indian approval but Indians are so emotional and start attacking trump for no reason. We don’t care what Indian Libturds does. They can bark all they want but we control the government and institutions. Libturds can be Target on the basis of how they can supported by American Libturds like Demotards and Islamic Terrorists and Fascists from PorkiShitan or Turkey.
 
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While watching the proceedings, a thought came to my mind..

Is it possible that there will always be less support for Kashmiri hindus in the US because they are the original natives?

US siding with original natives of kashmir goes against the principle of existence of US itself. No matter how “liberal” you are, nobody is so magnanimous to go against your own existence.
No, Americans are moral enough to call their Indians as Native Americans. Rest of the nations in EU also accept they were colonizers. Only phenomenon is found in Muslims to kick out real natives and then call themselves as natives.

Propaganda and Human rights works both ways. UN, US congress and EU MEPs must first facilitate the return of Hindu pandits and other minorities to their homes snatched away by Jihadis.

Let Kashmir valley first accept multiculturalism, Hindu temples, Churches, Monasteries and festivals of other faiths before shouting out "hoooman rites" from their bearded faces. Just as we have pre-condition of Paki vacating PoK before plebiscite, let's also tell these libtards to let Kashmiris of other faiths settle in Kashmir valley.

Once Amnesty and UNHRC sees how Jihadis in valley react, they will run handing over Kashmir to Indian army.
 

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No, Americans are moral enough to call their Indians as Native Americans. Rest of the nations in EU also accept they were colonizers. Only phenomenon is found in Muslims to kick out real natives and then call themselves as natives.

Propaganda and Human rights works both ways. UN, US congress and EU MEPs must first facilitate the return of Hindu pandits and other minorities to their homes snatched away by Jihadis.

Let Kashmir valley first accept multiculturalism, Hindu temples, Churches, Monasteries and festivals of other faiths before shouting out "hoooman rites" from their bearded faces. Just as we have pre-condition of Paki vacating PoK before plebiscite, let's also tell these libtards to let Kashmiris of other faiths settle in Kashmir valley.

Once Amnesty and UNHRC sees how Jihadis in valley react, they will run handing over Kashmir to Indian army.
That will never happen Since Muslims will never accept multi-culturalism. For them there is only one culture that is the Desert Sand Monkey Culture which came through there sand monkey pedo cult leader Muhumud. Human Rights are only for Pisslams according to there cult. Hindus to need fight back against these dogs. Kashmir Hindus were slaughtered like Animals but they are still acting weak and Sickular. Kashmiri Hindus need increase there lobbying powers. Hindus need to stop showing mercy these Pisslam dogs.
 
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Watch how India blasts the crap out of Pakistan at UNESCO. Now that was a befitting reply to Pak's penchant of poking their noses in India's internal affairs at the drop of a hat.

No Matter How Many Blasting we do in the UN. PorkiShitani Dogs will come with same shit over and over and over again. They will never stop. They are trying to waste our time in the UN by doing this kind of shit.
 

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That will never happen Since Muslims will never accept multi-culturalism. For them there is only one culture that is the Desert Sand Monkey Culture which came through there sand monkey pedo cult leader Muhumud. Human Rights are only for Pisslams according to there cult. Hindus need fight back against. Kashmir Hindus were slaughtered like Animals but they are still acting weak. Kashmiri Hindus need increase there lobbying powers.
All of this is sheet.
Kashmir will be a military state for next 80 years or so. With the removal of kashmir Hindus. The same places were filled by military boots. Kashmiri will keep leaching on tax payers money.
Need of the hour is advanced military capabilities Amca jet engines drones etc.
Till the time Pakistan exists kashmir will be a jihadi shit house.
Mohammed Abdullah Sheikh used to be very arrogant till 1971 because he thought if indian government will not obey him he will ask for Pakistan support. When war of 1971 started and when it ended he became a pussy cat because he knew india broke the Pakistan in half his biggest supporter was gone.
After 7 or so months everyone will forget kashmir till the time one big terrorist attack happens.
You can call this civilizational struggle of india.
 

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All of this is sheet.
Kashmir will be a military state for next 80 years or so. With the removal of kashmir Hindus. The same places were filled by military boots. Kashmiri will keep leaching on tax payers money.
Need of the hour is advanced military capabilities Amca jet engines drones etc.
Till the time Pakistan exists kashmir will be a jihadi shit house.
Mohammed Abdullah Sheikh used to be very arrogant till 1971 because he thought if indian government will not obey him he will ask for Pakistan support. When war of 1971 started and when it ended he became a pussy cat because he knew india broke the Pakistan in half his biggest supporter was gone.
After 7 or so months everyone will forget kashmir till the time one big terrorist attack happens.
You can call this civilizational struggle of india.
All of this is sheet.
Kashmir will be a military state for next 80 years or so. With the removal of kashmir Hindus. The same places were filled by military boots. Kashmiri will keep leaching on tax payers money.
Need of the hour is advanced military capabilities Amca jet engines drones etc.
Till the time Pakistan exists kashmir will be a jihadi shit house.
Mohammed Abdullah Sheikh used to be very arrogant till 1971 because he thought if indian government will not obey him he will ask for Pakistan support. When war of 1971 started and when it ended he became a pussy cat because he knew india broke the Pakistan in half his biggest supporter was gone.
After 7 or so months everyone will forget kashmir till the time one big terrorist attack happens.
You can call this civilizational struggle of india.
People won’t Forget Kashmir not after Article 370. These are a Critical Time for India. There is a major war possibility brewing and India must ready. We can end of PorkiShitan for ones for all. But Indians need to stand behind our government and Our Government Modi and Shah must be willingly to defeat our enemies with prejudice and without mercy.
 
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These are institutional mechanisms created in the aftermath of WW2, as long as status quo continues not much can change.

As things stand to day, Nobody other than China seems to have the appetite to change the world order. And China doesn’t seem to be interested in cultivating powerful allies either, they want to go solo.
Its a dictatorship with all coroporates controlled by the CCP..and thats the engine behind that solo run.
 

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Hand Over Wanted People Living In Pak If You Want Better Ties, Says India

New Delhi:

Pakistan does not deny sending terrorists to India, Foreign Minister S Jaishankar told French daily Le Monde this week, adding that if Islamabad is serious about establishing friendlier relations with New Delhi it must hand over wanted criminals and terrorists like Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed. "The relationship is difficult since many years, mainly because Pakistan has developed an important terrorist industry and sends terrorists to India to carry out attacks. Pakistan itself does not deny this situation," Mr Jaishankar said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pak...industry-s-jaishankar-to-french-daily-2133231

Well!! we know that is not going to happen .. cuz them pakis dont have balls the proof being how gafoora mujra is always denying with lies the paki terror nexus.

Such statements from time to time does allow us to FLEX out muscles on pakistan as and when please..
Its good..and its a free hit.. yo!
 
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