India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Raaakisazih]

Col rawjesh ko us bhejo

Can anybody tell me how strong is our intelligence in US

 

[Raaakisazih]

Reporter from the region is reporting clashes between TTP and Afghan Taliban Terrorists but both sides are denying this incident happened.

ISI trying to create a narrative against TTP

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Thanks for deleting. @Maitreya Shyam

Please elaborate

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Begging has expanded from Saudi Arabia to Germany Now. Lol Permany which didn’t want to sell “weapons” to India because of Human Rights are now inviting one of the world’s biggest human rights violators and killer of minorities for talks.

Half dyk bajwa uski begum se milne gya h.

 

[indiatester]

Pakistan fails to get out of FATF’s grey list


6-8 minutes


The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) on Friday retained Pakistan in its “grey list” for failing to adequately investigate and prosecute leaders of UN-designated terror groups, and asked the country to implement a new action plan to tackle serious money laundering risks.
The decision was announced at the end of the multilateral watchdog’s five-day virtual plenary meeting under the German presidency of Marcus Pleyer. FATF noted Pakistan had completed all but one of the 27 items in an old action plan that was drawn up to tackle both money laundering and terror financing when the country was placed in the list of nations under increased monitoring or the grey list in June 2018.

Pakistan fails to get out of FATF’s grey list

The decision was announced at the end of the multilateral watchdog’s five-day virtual plenary meeting under the German presidency of Marcus Pleyer.

www.hindustantimes.com

They've been in FATF grey list for 3 years already now!...
How useless are they for not being able to get out by now... I mean.... they should have been out in 6 months or so....
It really takes next level of incompetence to stay in FATF grey list for so long!

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Half dyk bajwa uski begum se milne gya h.
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Gaalt salute Mara hai bajwe ne shayd

 

[Tridev123]

Half dyk bunch of cowards.

The Pakistani Army is the biggest long term threat to India from its western borders. After independence and partition in the subcontinent India inherited a relatively professional and effective army whereas Pakistan inherited a much less effective force. Specifically the ISI of Pakistan as and when it was created was a mediocre force and India developed better intelligence organisations. The Pak Army made many strategic blunders in the 1965 and 1971 wars.

We should remember the master stroke of the hijacking of the Indian aircraft by a Kashmiri group and its forced landing in Pakistan. India got the excuse to ban all over flights from West Pakistan to East Pakistan thereby almost crippling the supply lines of the Pak Army in East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This operation was master minded by Indian intelligence.

I think we can confidently state in those decades Indian intelligence (R&AW) was better than the ISI.

India after 1971 could have made Pakistan splinter again as the Pashtoon and Baloch insurgencies were active at that time. But India chose not to further dismember Pakistan and did not provide large scale support to the freedom movements in Balochistan and Pakhtoonistan.

The turning point for the Pakistan Army and its offshoot the ISI came with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Americans in order to win against the Soviets provided massive amounts of arms including the F16's to the Pakistan armed forces and training to the ISI to take on the Soviets. The ISI learnt new techniques and methods of creating and running armed militias /terrorist groups. The CIA became the Godfather of the ISI.

Of course the plan succeeded in driving out the Soviets from Afghanistan but in the process created an Frankenstein monster in the form of a new highly virulent ISI. The Pakistan Army and the ISI gained enormous confidence and thought that after defeating a Super Power like the Soviet Union they could do anything. Thus started the offensive against India in Punjab and Kashmir.

Of course India has managed pretty well to weather the storm and even pushed Pakistan on the back foot many a times. But the costs have been quite heavy.

The Americans and the CIA in particular bear the responsibility of creating a much more virulent ISI. This Pakistan Army and ISI combine has fostered terrorism in many parts of the world. The Pakistan Army as of today is still an force which pathologically hates India. As long as the Pakistan Army and the ISI remain strong in that country the chances of durable long term peace between India and Pakistan will remain bleak.

One irony is that now the CIA since the last many years must be regretting their role in creating the monster(ISI).The student has turned against the master on many occasions. The beheading of Daniel Pearl is but one example.

The decisive conclusion is that in its present form the Pakistan Army is a threat to India. We need to have a long-term plan to destroy the Pakistan Army from within. A separate division in the R&AW and the Defence Intelligence Agency should be created to create divisions inside the Pak army on ethnic and sectarian lines. Even the so called monolithic Punjabi Sunnis are divided into sects like the Deobandis, Barelvis etc. Not to speak of the Shia-Sunni divide. Ultimately the Pak army will reflect the larger divisions in the Pak civil society. Lower the morale of the Pak army. Make the lower rung Pak soldiers lose confidence in the Pak army officers. We must use all means to systematically degrade the effectiveness of the Pak army. This will be a long term process. By destroying the regular Pak army the ISI will also get weakened.

The latest reports of the mutiny in the Pak army and the intended assassination of the Chief of the Pak Army General Bajwa is welcome news though one doubts whether our R&AW was involved.

 

[FalconSlayers]

I don't know, but the gear looks good tbh!!

Meanwhile 82 “guests” naar logov hindustanas, trath hindustanas and sheeit, forcing elders to give him blessings on gun point. Reeeeeeee...

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Meanwhile 82 “guests” naar logov hindustanas, trath hindustanas and sheeit, forcing elders to give him blessings on gun point.

I don't know kashir , but I think I get the gist here

 

[Raaakisazih]

The Pakistani Army is the biggest long term threat to India from its western borders. After independence and partition in the subcontinent India inherited a relatively professional and effective army whereas Pakistan inherited a much less effective force. Specifically the ISI of Pakistan as and when it was created was a mediocre force and India developed better intelligence organisations. The Pak Army made many strategic blunders in the 1965 and 1971 wars.

We should remember the master stroke of the hijacking of the Indian aircraft by a Kashmiri group and its forced landing in Pakistan. India got the excuse to ban all over flights from West Pakistan to East Pakistan thereby almost crippling the supply lines of the Pak Army in East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This operation was master minded by Indian intelligence.

I think we can confidently state in those decades Indian intelligence (R&AW) was better than the ISI.

India after 1971 could have made Pakistan splinter again as the Pashtoon and Baloch insurgencies were active at that time. But India chose not to further dismember Pakistan and did not provide large scale support to the freedom movements in Balochistan and Pakhtoonistan.

The turning point for the Pakistan Army and its offshoot the ISI came with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Americans in order to win against the Soviets provided massive amounts of arms including the F16's to the Pakistan armed forces and training to the ISI to take on the Soviets. The ISI learnt new techniques and methods of creating and running armed militias /terrorist groups. The CIA became the Godfather of the ISI.

Of course the plan succeeded in driving out the Soviets from Afghanistan but in the process created an Frankenstein monster in the form of a new highly virulent ISI. The Pakistan Army and the ISI gained enormous confidence and thought that after defeating a Super Power like the Soviet Union they could do anything. Thus started the offensive against India in Punjab and Kashmir.

Of course India has managed pretty well to weather the storm and even pushed Pakistan on the back foot many a times. But the costs have been quite heavy.

The Americans and the CIA in particular bear the responsibility of creating a much more virulent ISI. This Pakistan Army and ISI combine has fostered terrorism in many parts of the world. The Pakistan Army as of today is still an force which pathologically hates India. As long as the Pakistan Army and the ISI remain strong in that country the chances of durable long term peace between India and Pakistan will remain bleak.

One irony is that now the CIA since the last many years must be regretting their role in creating the monster(ISI).The student has turned against the master on many occasions. The beheading of Daniel Pearl is but one example.

The decisive conclusion is that in its present form the Pakistan Army is a threat to India. We need to have a long-term plan to destroy the Pakistan Army from within. A separate division in the R&AW and the Defence Intelligence Agency should be created to create divisions inside the Pak army on ethnic and sectarian lines. Even the so called monolithic Punjabi Sunnis are divided into sects like the Deobandis, Barelvis etc. Not to speak of the Shia-Sunni divide. Ultimately the Pak army will reflect the larger divisions in the Pak civil society. Lower the morale of the Pak army. Make the lower rung Pak soldiers lose confidence in the Pak army officers. We must use all means to systematically degrade the effectiveness of the Pak army. This will be a long term process. By destroying the regular Pak army the ISI will also get weakened.

The latest reports of the mutiny in the Pak army and the intended assassination of the Chief of the Pak Army General Bajwa is welcome news though one doubts whether our R&AW was involved.

That's exactly what i was thinking you destroy pork army from inside several armymen were sacked and imprisoned don't know how many of them were our men

 

[FalconSlayers]

I don't know kashir , but I think I get the gist here

Tvahi chaa phikiri taraan?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Tvahi chaa phikiri taraan?

Saar no kashir saar

 

[FalconSlayers]

Saar no kashir saar

Oke saarrr

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Oke saarrr

Meaning to bolo saar , jo aapne lika

 

[ezsasa]

One irony is that now the CIA since the last many years must be regretting their role in creating the monster(ISI).The student has turned against the master on many occasions. The beheading of Daniel Pearl is but one example.

If someone thinks intelligence agencies at a policy level get senti over an individual citizen's death, perhaps this notion needs to be reviewed. They had a mission at hand, they executed it in their country's interest. what exactly was their goal, is debatable.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Meaning to bolo saar , jo aapne lika

Spoiler

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

National disintegration song of Pakistan

Miley sur mera tumhara... to sur bane hamara

sur ki nadiyaan terror camp se behke Taliban se miley

baadalon ka roop lekar... amreeka bam barsaye halke halke



Pakistan ka matlab kya, La Illaha Illal Allah... was a couplet and political slogan coined in 1944 by Urdu poet Asghar Sodai & was used widely by muslim league in demand for Pakistan.

Baloch nationalists recreated the above:

Pakistan ka matlab kya
lund pe chadhe hamara kya

 

[FalconSlayers]

Hindutva Fascist narinder mudi destroyed endiañ economy, handsome imrandi khana made porkistan a globul sooparpaawar.

 

[Gtmbisht82]

video footage of recent grenade attack in Srinagar

 

[Abdus Salem killed]