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No we are not at that stage just yet but we have arrived at the station pre that stage meaning it is time for coalition building and team gathering due to the nature of such war is gonna be huge and having the necessary alliance works right.

Example Why do you think Putin wanted Erdogan away from NATO? There is two types of policies what trolls talking about on newspapers and the real politcs that happens behind the scenes these are two different things. Example Biden has gone on a NATO tour in this week to strengthen ties and gather coalition against china and most of the statements being released was ''The US is back says Biden and Macron etc etc'' We are back to world hegemony etc etc? Why are they saying that? because the world hegemony is lost and they are insecure about it iand the new players want to claim it to dethrone the US and create a new world order.. The US wants it's world hegemony to the bitter end and specifically doesn't want to give it to China because they know deep down the chinese will commit massacre in Europe if they reach that status which they technically could if things doesn't shape up as the Americans plan




The problem with India is despite having the ability to put troops on the ground since it has borders with China but BJP's policies attracted India more haters in the region specifically in Pakistan and potentially Bangladesh in the future and couple of others. This weakens India against China and strengthens China's hand plus China is in Sri Lanka so basically India is surrended from China, Pakistan BG, China in Sri lanka from the behind you can add Central Asia since Turkey is there it wiill become an arm for Pakistan if necessary so initially India's standing very weak. Everyone is against India hence why India is absorbing the pressure intended for China unnecessarily.. Where as China is strengthen in the region at the cost of BJP and China's standing has never been stronger regionally.. Which is why the Uighur angle is done on repost to right India's mistakes but I am a afriad it won't since the pact is to deep now but it can be down in a different way by recalibrating everything in the region and in a post-bjp era where things cool down and the prime focus becomes china.



Turkey has influence over Central Asia and I couldn't imagine in a world where they wouldn't get involved in a heart-beat once PK comes calling. They are initially unpredictable. I agree he calculated things wrong
Na , he interfared amomg them too much.
 

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No we are not at that stage just yet but we have arrived at the station pre that stage meaning it is time for coalition building and team gathering due to the nature of such war is gonna be huge and having the necessary alliance works right.

Example Why do you think Putin wanted Erdogan away from NATO? There is two types of policies what trolls talking about on newspapers and the real politcs that happens behind the scenes these are two different things. Example Biden has gone on a NATO tour in this week to strengthen ties and gather coalition against china and most of the statements being released was ''The US is back says Biden and Macron etc etc'' We are back to world hegemony etc etc? Why are they saying that? because the world hegemony is lost and they are insecure about it iand the new players want to claim it to dethrone the US and create a new world order.. The US wants it's world hegemony to the bitter end and specifically doesn't want to give it to China because they know deep down the chinese will commit massacre in Europe if they reach that status which they technically could if things doesn't shape up as the Americans plan




The problem with India is despite having the ability to put troops on the ground since it has borders with China but BJP's policies attracted India more haters in the region specifically in Pakistan and potentially Bangladesh in the future and couple of others. This weakens India against China and strengthens China's hand plus China is in Sri Lanka so basically India is surrounded from China, Pakistan BG, China in Sri lanka from the behind you can add Central Asia since Turkey is there it wiill become an arm for Pakistan if necessary so initially India's standing very weak. Everyone is against India hence why India is absorbing the pressure intended for China unnecessarily.. Where as China is strengthen in the region at the cost of BJP and China's standing has never been stronger regionally.. Which is why the Uighur angle is done on repost to right India's mistakes but I am a afriad it won't since the pact is to deep now but it can be done in a different way by recalibrating everything in the region and in a post-bjp era where things cool down and the prime focus becomes china.



Turkey has influence over Central Asia and I couldn't imagine in a world where they wouldn't get involved in a heart-beat once PK comes calling. They are initially unpredictable. I agree he calculated things wrong
Your second para is not.quiet accurate comrade , its night here.
Will tell tomorrow why
 

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The problem with India is despite having the ability to put troops on the ground since it has borders with China but BJP's policies attracted India more haters in the region specifically in Pakistan and potentially Bangladesh in the future and couple of others. This weakens India against China and strengthens China's hand plus China is in Sri Lanka so basically India is surrended from China, Pakistan BG, China in Sri lanka from the behind you can add Central Asia since Turkey is there it wiill become an arm for Pakistan if necessary so initially India's standing very weak. Everyone is against India hence why India is absorbing the pressure intended for China unnecessarily.. Where as China is strengthen in the region at the cost of BJP and China's standing has never been stronger regionally.. Which is why the Uighur angle is done on repost to right India's mistakes but I am a afriad it won't since the pact is to deep now but it can be down in a different way by recalibrating everything in the region and in a post-bjp era where things cool down and the prime focus becomes china.
So the usual stuff ha, every body else is at fault except the US which funded this monster called CCP for three decades.

It's ok mate, We get it. you have received the new memo titled "India is a illiberal democracy, because of Modi/BJP". so obviously BJP has to be removed so that everybody can live happily ever after.

we have seen this movie before, "India is a illiberal democracy, because of Indira Gandhi", so Indira has to be removed so that everybody can live happily ever after.
 

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So the usual stuff ha, every body else is at fault except the US which funded this monster called CCP for three decades.

It's ok mate, We get it. you have received the new memo titled "India is a illiberal democracy, because of Modi/BJP". so obviously BJP has to be removed so that everybody can live happily ever after.

we have seen this movie before, "India is a illiberal democracy, because of Indira Gandhi", so Indira has to be removed so that everybody can live happily ever after.
I don't have anything against BJP and they could even remain in office but their actions turned China into superpower and opened a channel for them to gain a host of allies in the right regional locations. BJP's long term strategic planning is not defined and contradictory.

The grand plan is to make one large axes NATO, OIC, Pakistan, India and ASEAN for world status quo and China, Russia, North Korea and Iran against world status quo. Basically they want to coin a new world order that these countries against them won't likely agree with for political and ideological reasons. Just imagine in a post ww3 where China has won together with Russia? can you imagine the new world they will coin after their image and all the genocides they will commit? It will be the death of the free world as we know..

This is not all set in stone but this is the initial long term plan but it might not come to fruition and alliances could take different shapes. China right now has a host of allies long the entire region the plan is to politically turn them away from China
 
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I don't have anything against BJP and they could even remain in office but their actions turned China into superpower and opened a channel for them to gain a host of allies in the right region locations. BJP's long term strategic planning is not defined and contradictory.

The grand plan is to make one large axes NATO, OIC, Pakistan, India and ASEAN for world status quo and China, Russia, North Korea and Iran against world status quo. Basically they want to coin a new world order that these countries against them won't likely agree with for political and ideological reasons. Just imagine in a post ww3 where China has won together with Russia? can you imagine the new world they will coin after their image and all the genocides they will commit? It will be the death of the free world as we know
what did BJP do now!!! you do realise that BJP is not the "establishment" in India. the current version of BJP is a recent phenomenon.

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The Huawei ban on China is very key and it must continue along that line and hopefully more allies will be pressured to follow suit and ban Huawei..

what did BJP do now!!! you do realise that BJP is not the "establishment" in India. the current version of BJP is a recent phenomenon.
I also believe that is the case a recent phenomenon and that it won't be around post elections and a new flavor could emerge just like what happened in West Bengal. Politics is unpredictable
 
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But to be fair, pakis living in US are more organized and a much more powerful lobby when compared to NRIs who are either anti-India or hate each other more than the pakistanis.
I doubt that. NRI are stronger than Pakistani diaspora. I've witnessed it my self during Texas state election when candidates reached to NRIs regularly, even hired Hindi speaking volunteers to speak in Hindi to families.

 

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The Huawei ban on China is very key and it must continue along that line and hopefully more allies will be pressured to follow suit and ban Huawei..



I also believe that is the case a recent phenomenon and that it won't be around post elections and a new flavor could emerge just like what happened in West Bengal. Politics is unpredictable
how can you not see that he is a packie or a muzzie?? this hate of BJP and this delusional world view that somehow china or pakistan were indian friends before BJP.

pakistan from the day of its existence has never accepted india and wants to capture delhi and is a eternal revisionist entity , anyone saying otherwise is plain delusional or a packie / muzzie

ban this fucker
 
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It may sound weird but the US wants to team up with them in order to confront Russia and China while getting India on that page but India could ruin the plan because if India is made at the center they could exit giving China and Russia all the power and weakening the US
They don't hold any independent standing that could be decisive in a war. AfPak belt was located between USSR, China, India and Iran and hence was important for US. Later, Soviet collapsed and China, India and Iran became stronger. Since then, their value has been waning. Americans still are there for resources of Afghanistan.
The problem with India is geolocation? Because it is located in one place and not spread out... Initially the first opening of WW3 is gonna be along these lines. Due to geolocation limitions India can't be much of an asset in confronting Russia, China, North Korea and potentially Iran axis.
India's geolocation makes it sole guard of Indian ocean. It's spread is rather in a form of star making a new region itself than being spread out as one. It's military is only non-western military capable of taking on China or Russia. Because other countries in vicinity of Russia and China are insignificant.

India can't be an asset for US because of India's own political choices.
Since they can get an infinite assistance but you can't..
There must be reason for them getting infinite assistance. They are a nation confined to a sub-1000 km long belt useful at best for creating insurgencies. Not a state capable of waging war on great powers.
They can just keep throwing infinite amount of manpower and hardware from down central Asia and all the way from the Atlantic ocean
They aren't seen as some kind of fantasy Islamic kings by people to have such kind of support. Nor Central Asian populace in general is fanatic enough.

Over it, only Pakistanis view themselves as ghazi Islamic warriors of world. In rest of Islamic world, they are looked down upon.
BJP's policies attracted India more haters in the region specifically in Pakistan and potentially Bangladesh in the future and couple of others. This weakens India against China and strengthens China's hand plus China is in Sri Lanka so basically India is surrounded from China, Pakistan BG, China in Sri lanka from the behind and you can add Central Asia since Turkey is there it wiill become an arm for Pakistan if necessary so initially India's standing very weak.
Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka were hostile to India even before BJP too. They were always weak strategically and never made a difference to India. Nor the economic midget Turkey has any kind of significant power to exert pressure against India in India's own backyard.
It's actions are confined to loudmouth statements by its leader and then running after countries with apologies.
don't have anything against BJP and they could even remain in office but their actions turned China into superpower and opened a channel for them to gain a host of allies in the right regional locations.
China's growing power was always due to its internal strength and free pass given to markets by previous Indian governments before BJP, not allied.

Nor allies matter in case of India either as all other South Asian states are too weak militarily and economically. In times of crisis, they would approach you seeking aid than helping anything and will switch sides if they don't get.
BJP's long term strategic planning is not defined and contradictory.
BJP's only party with defined foreign policy. It's policy is defined on nationalist principles and has enemies. Congress was a part of global left and obviously will find more levels. China and US will love a submissive India under INC than an aggressive one under BJP.
 

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I meant in a direct conflict they can beat you logistically speaking. Since they can get an infinite assistance but you can't.. They can just keep throwing infinite amount of manpower and hardware from down central Asia and all the way from the Atlantic ocean there is land connection so in that regard they are unpredictable and have a much stronger standing in the region than India ever will unless it defeats Pakistan but that itself is highly unlikely from stragetic point of view but in order for that to happen the circumstance has to be right for India
In indian subcontinent ,those who rule the sea , js god of land 😉😉. Bangladesh is like a baby blocked by us ,in case they try any pew pew .


Pakistan ,so let's get into details , we have a base in farkhor , also influence in middle east and some central asian is more than Pakistani .


Also Pakistani land is like a belt , with topography similar to us everywhere , to ttain out men to work there ,we just ttain them in similar area of ours .

We have developed tactic for that

The weakest part of their force is navy , and pretty much under our rangr of fire , regionally there would be a blockade for them ,and for longrr range ,we are developing a base at Mauritius .

Then comes the possibilities of supplies through iran , well they keep their stance pretty much neuttal , afganistan is more of a mess for those Pakistani to enter .

Then we have ttp and bla guys in the border areas with uran and afgan , who want freedom , and Pakistan can't afford to engage them while a war is active on eastern part of their border .To get supplies thorough land route if iran and afg agree ,they have to fight their internal rebel factions , where topography support rebels .

It would be like surrender of 1971
 

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Mate, you're trying to intimidate someone over the internet, that too with an anime pfp. So i apologize if i'm not exactly paralyzed in horror.
not really im just showing my disgust for your kind , we don't need your delusional world view here so get fucking lost on the off chance you are not a packie or muzzie then you are a libtard which is even more dangerous than those scums.
 

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In indian subcontinent ,those who rule the sea , js god of land 😉😉. Bangladesh is like a baby blocked by us ,in case they try any pew pew .


Pakistan ,so let's get into details , we have a base in farkhor , also influence in middle east and some central asian is more than Pakistani .


Also Pakistani land is like a belt , with topography similar to us everywhere , to ttain out men to work there ,we just ttain them in similar area of ours .

We have developed tactic for that

The weakest part of their force is navy , and pretty much under our rangr of fire , regionally there would be a blockade for them ,and for longrr range ,we are developing a base at Mauritius .

Then comes the possibilities of supplies through iran , well they keep their stance pretty much neuttal , afganistan is more of a mess for those Pakistani to enter .

Then we have ttp and bla guys in the border areas with uran and afgan , who want freedom , and Pakistan can't afford to engage them while a war is active on eastern part of their border .To get supplies thorough land route if iran and afg agree ,they have to fight their internal rebel factions , where topography support rebels .

It would be like surrender of 1971
The way you said, it makes India look like a bad guy😂
 

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not really im just showing my disgust for your kind , we don't need your delusional world view here so get fucking lost , do something creative like shagging a goat or your mom or your sister be productive.
Im touched 😂
Anyway i shall "cease and desist" regarding you before i get told off for derailing the thread any further. Though i wish i could just bask in this for just a little longer...
 

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it is boon for people who want to see the truth of the people who hate us and any other modern community on the planet.

it is a bane for those like you who want to ignore issues.i dont want primitive low tech people to be tolerated in the slightest anywhere.

as an atheist,islamic minded people are the tall poppy left to be civilized and brought kicking and screaming along with us to the 21st century.the only good muslim is an ex muslim apostate. the china way should be the way of the world.full stop.period.
It isn't a boon for you. It's an abject waste of time. Twitter is a watering hole for morons, an exhibition of the worlds most smooth-brained specimen. Deleting it doesn't equal blinding yourself, i think it's pretty clear that there are some batshit Pakistanis indoctrinated by generations of sociopaths ruling their country.
 

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No we are not at that stage just yet but we have arrived at the station pre that stage meaning it is time for coalition building and team gathering due to the nature of such war is gonna be huge and having the necessary alliance works right.

Example Why do you think Putin wanted Erdogan away from NATO? There is two types of policies what trolls talking about on newspapers and the real politcs that happens behind the scenes these are two different things. Example Biden has gone on a NATO tour in this week to strengthen ties and gather coalition against china and most of the statements being released was ''The US is back says Biden and Macron etc etc'' We are back to world hegemony etc etc? Why are they saying that? because the world hegemony is lost and they are insecure about it iand the new players want to claim it to dethrone the US and create a new world order.. The US wants it's world hegemony to the bitter end and specifically doesn't want to give it to China because they know deep down the chinese will commit massacre in Europe if they reach that status which they technically could if things doesn't shape up as the Americans plan




The problem with India is despite having the ability to put troops on the ground since it has borders with China but BJP's policies attracted India more haters in the region specifically in Pakistan and potentially Bangladesh in the future and couple of others. This weakens India against China and strengthens China's hand plus China is in Sri Lanka so basically India is surrounded from China, Pakistan BG, China in Sri lanka from the behind and you can add Central Asia since Turkey is there it wiill become an arm for Pakistan if necessary so initially India's standing very weak. Everyone is against India hence why India is absorbing the pressure intended for China unnecessarily.. Where as China is strengthen in the region at the cost of BJP and China's standing has never been stronger regionally.. Which is why the Uighur angle is done on repost to right India's mistakes but I am a afriad it won't since the pact is to deep now but it can be done in a different way by recalibrating everything in the region and in a post-bjp era where things cool down and the prime focus becomes china.



Turkey has influence over Central Asia and I couldn't imagine in a world where they wouldn't get involved in a heart-beat once PK comes calling. They are initially unpredictable. I agree he calculated things wrong
M8 ,m8 you got some serious issue over there .

Let me give you a single line to clean up the mess , DON'T READ TOO MUCH WIKIPEDIA (not shouting but highlighting )

Now coming to point , thing is chuna is growing too fast ,from the day bjp claimed the throne to today , there was a long term planning with them for this , and about Pakistan ,sri lanka and bongs .

Porkies of west are now riled up in their own shit , insurgency is on rise ,thry just burnt their cities against a french cartoon , we just need to make them more religious muslim , they will destroy themselves .

Bla ,ttp is creating no go zones for them without air support .

They have demoted from a enemy of india to beggar , with completion of water projects in indus river , we will have absolute control over Pakistani water supply , any biological warfare is possible :megusta: :megusta: ,well we won't do that , but still they will be choked , less water won't be just a small problem ,it would affect electricity generation , farming , industries , daily water requirements .if the future government of afganistan still helps us in building a dam for them in kandhar , problem for porks will rise . They won't have grass to eat .look at change of Pakistani stance , they literally beg for funds , any way they want money .from threats of taking kashmir from us to restore article 370 , what a fall , thry are like a lil kid now , restore art 370 or we won't talk to you and beg for cheaper cotton to feed their only credible export .




Bongs are just too fucked up , a credible indian lobby in their system is present , if they ever go on war with us or tries to be anti india , they will end up losing land and strengthening indian connectivity with n e india .

Sri lanka ,hates us from ltte days ,but still they arr more of money minded , will be hard to check enemy or friend
 
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