India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

#Breaking India to brief foreign diplomats on #PakTerror. FS @harshvshringla briefing P5 and select countries on Pak attempted terrorism, #Nagrota attack foiled by Indian forces. Secretaries of MEA briefing other foreign diplomats.

The question is: is this all we will do? Such briefings have happened umpteen times. Look at the amount of resources these Porkis are costing us:
- losing soldiers arbitrarily
- wasting time with dossiers, P5 meetings etc instead of using our embassies to drum up businesses to relocate to India or boost tourism etc.

i hope we are not playing nice and shouting slogans like “rules based order” thinking that this will get us a permanent UN seat or reinforce our status as a darling of the west. Such miscalculations have backfired on us in the past. In fact, nations are going to be reluctant to have us as a permanent UNSC member if they think our national resolve and military might is weak. We still don’t seem to be ready to play in the big leagues.

does Israel brief the P5 or did Azerbaijan or Armenia do this? Did France do so with its African moves? Did the Saudies brief the P5 on Yemen strikes? Other than us (and the rogue nation of Pakshitstan as a copycat thing), who else briefs P5?

sorry, I have to humbly say I don’t understand our diplomacy or battle strategies. We appear to think in very complex ways rather than just firmly handling the pakpest, and stomping all over it now and then.

 

[Lancer]

The question is: is this all we will do? Such briefings have happened umpteen times. Look at the amount of resources these Porkis are costing us:
- losing soldiers arbitrarily
- wasting time with dossiers, P5 meetings etc instead of using our embassies to drum up businesses to relocate to India or boost tourism etc.

i hope we are not playing nice and shouting slogans like “rules based order” thinking that this will get us a permanent UN seat or reinforce our status as a darling of the west. Such miscalculations have backfired on us in the past. In fact, nations are going to be reluctant to have us as a permanent UNSC member if they think our national resolve and military might is weak. We still don’t seem to be ready to play in the big leagues.

does Israel brief the P5 or did Azerbaijan or Armenia do this? Did France do so with its African moves? Did the Saudies brief the P5 on Yemen strikes? Other than us (and the rogue nation of Pakshitstan as a copycat thing), who else briefs P5?

sorry, I have to humbly say I don’t understand our diplomacy or battle strategies. We appear to think in very complex ways rather than just firmly handling the pakpest, and stomping all over it now and then.

According to some defense account on twitter, the last time this was done was after Pulwama - and the whole response (Modi's meeting & tweet, and now this) does seem atypical compared to most responses to such situations.

Let's wait and watch, not much else I can say.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

I have a feeling it won’t be military retaliation but something like shuttering down the paki embassy for good, or abrogation of IWT. Modi already warned IWT is at risk, after pulwama. Maybe the time has come to abrogate it.

 

[Cheran]

I have a feeling it won’t be military retaliation but something like shuttering down the paki embassy for good, or abrogation of IWT. Modi already warned IWT is at risk, after pulwama. Maybe the time has come to abrogate it.

Sorry, there won't be a shutting down of IWT.

May be some regular arty. strikes, further embassy thinning (if possible without complete shutdown).

We *might* even defer any further action like air raid etc. down the line in view of the current deployments.

 

[ezsasa]

The question is: is this all we will do? Such briefings have happened umpteen times. Look at the amount of resources these Porkis are costing us:
- losing soldiers arbitrarily
- wasting time with dossiers, P5 meetings etc instead of using our embassies to drum up businesses to relocate to India or boost tourism etc.

i hope we are not playing nice and shouting slogans like “rules based order” thinking that this will get us a permanent UN seat or reinforce our status as a darling of the west. Such miscalculations have backfired on us in the past. In fact, nations are going to be reluctant to have us as a permanent UNSC member if they think our national resolve and military might is weak. We still don’t seem to be ready to play in the big leagues.

does Israel brief the P5 or did Azerbaijan or Armenia do this? Did France do so with its African moves? Did the Saudies brief the P5 on Yemen strikes? Other than us (and the rogue nation of Pakshitstan as a copycat thing), who else briefs P5?

sorry, I have to humbly say I don’t understand our diplomacy or battle strategies. We appear to think in very complex ways rather than just firmly handling the pakpest, and stomping all over it now and then.

Gestation period for Kinetic military actions may be in days and months, but some moves like diplomacy are visible when you gauge them over a period of time.

We don't know how long will this last, while it lasts might as well enjoy the ride.

This was the scenario in 2015
NSA level talk: Adamant Pakistan again invites Hurriyat leaders ahead of meeting: Reports

Read more at: https://www.oneindia.com/india/nsa-...stan-again-invites-hurriyat-lead-1842693.html

 

[Mikesingh]

Below is a sane Pakistani's answer on Quora Digest. But this guy is one in nearly 220 million rabid anti-India Pakis who still think that 1 Musalmaan Deobandi Pork = 10 Hindu Kafirs!!

From Quora Digest



Soher Husseinshah
·
November 15
Libertarian

Question:
Can Pakistan follow the Azerbaijani model to take back its areas occupied by other countries?


Answer:
Sadly we didn’t learn from the past. It is now time that we should give up the dream of conquering Kashmir. At the economic and international level, we are the bottom of the line. Our imperialist views have ruined us and it will take centuries to fix all of the chaos.

The latter is India's military and economic superiority that nobody would mess with, but we do it anyway. We think we are something superior which will cost us a lot because we are messing with a ten times stronger neighbor.

I say invest more in education and health care and it will pay off wonderfully in the future.

 

[Cheran]

JK Police gets new high tech command vehicle for counter-terrorism operations - Guarding India

guardingindia.com

The J&K Police has gone hi-tech with one of its kind “Command Vehicle” – a customised Ashok Leyland Medium Bullet Proof Vehicle (MBPV). On Thursday morning, IG Jammu Mukesh Singh was seen inside this special vehicle holding a public address system, asking four Pakistani Jaish terrorists to surrender. Shortly after, the terrorists were neutralised as they opened indiscriminate fire at the security forces.


The vehicle is fully air-conditioned, fireproof, equipped with 10 CCTV cameras and PTZ Camera with adjustable height which gives 360 degrees view of the surroundings, with a camera clarity of 2.5 kilometre

Mashaallah

 

[Pulakeshin]

Below is a sane Pakistani's answer on Quora Digest. But this guy is one in nearly 220 million rabid anti-India Pakis who still think that 1 Musalmaan Deobandi Pork = 10 Hindu Kafirs!!

From Quora Digest

Soher Husseinshah
·
November 15
Libertarian

Question:
Can Pakistan follow the Azerbaijani model to take back its areas occupied by other countries?


Answer:
Sadly we didn’t learn from the past. It is now time that we should give up the dream of conquering Kashmir. At the economic and international level, we are the bottom of the line. Our imperialist views have ruined us and it will take centuries to fix all of the chaos.

The latter is India's military and economic superiority that nobody would mess with, but we do it anyway. We think we are something superior which will cost us a lot because we are messing with a ten times stronger neighbor.

I say invest more in education and health care and it will pay off wonderfully in the future.

There are more of these people. Please don't overestimate the enemy nor underestimate it. I already see Muslims pyschologically down nowadays.

 

[NAMICA]

Below is a sane Pakistani's answer on Quora Digest. But this guy is one in nearly 220 million rabid anti-India Pakis who still think that 1 Musalmaan Deobandi Pork = 10 Hindu Kafirs!!

From Quora Digest

Soher Husseinshah
·
November 15
Libertarian

Question:
Can Pakistan follow the Azerbaijani model to take back its areas occupied by other countries?


Answer:
Sadly we didn’t learn from the past. It is now time that we should give up the dream of conquering Kashmir. At the economic and international level, we are the bottom of the line. Our imperialist views have ruined us and it will take centuries to fix all of the chaos.

The latter is India's military and economic superiority that nobody would mess with, but we do it anyway. We think we are something superior which will cost us a lot because we are messing with a ten times stronger neighbor.

I say invest more in education and health care and it will pay off wonderfully in the future.

Deep down every pakistani know the reality.

 

[NAMICA]

WTF tavor with naxals.

 

[shade]

WTF tavor with naxals.

It could be they looted it from CRPF.
or
IT WAS PROVIDED BY ZE JOOOS!!!!

 

[NAMICA]

 

[Mikesingh]

Deep down every pakistani know the reality.

Not turds like 'Lal Topee'!! And there are millions like him in the 'Land of the Pure'!

 

[Tridev123]

We deal with pakistan while daddy china continues to grow.

One front needs to be eliminated under any cost before it's too late.

Yes, China is a real threat. But everybody would have noticed that the so called super duper Roaring Dragon PLA has not fired a single shot and killed any Indian soldier. Why?.

Because they know truly well that they would suffer unacceptable losses if real fighting takes place. The Indian Army is not any third world force. We would be giving stiff competition to the Vietnamese Army which walloped the PLA some times back. Their bubble of invincibility will burst.

So we see lots of publicity given to their build up on the border. The whole exercise is mainly a psychological operation to scare and overawe us. Get us to retreat without a fight.

This is not to say that we should underestimate them. But their strength is being artificially hyped up.

I believe that we can and will hold our ground against the PLA. And given our extensive combat experience we might well give them the beating of their lives.

China is also isolated globally. Apart from the Pakis and the N. Koreans nobody supports them. Some countries may fear the Chinese but don't support them.

India is seen as a bulwark against the Chinese by the West and we can expect some significant support from them.

If it comes to the worst we will fight the PLA. Hope they have placed a bulk order for body bags to take the bodies of Chinese soldiers home.

 

[Knowitall]

What nonsense I oppose both these bills especially population control bill.

Both these bills can affect hindus very badly if not designed properly.

We Hindus will abide by the law and get cucked.

 

[Cheran]

I have seen some people saying/arguing/rebutting that these two are against "long term H interests."

 

[Knowitall]

I have seen some people saying/arguing/rebutting that these two are against "long term H interests."

Yes they are very much.

 

[NAMICA]

Narrative building.

 

[Lancer]

What nonsense I oppose both these bills especially population control bill.

Both these bills can affect hindus very badly if not designed properly.

We Hindus will abide by the law and get cucked.

Have long argued that Population Control Bill should be framed in such a way that it mostly cuts Samudaay Vishesh reproduction and not Hindu (or anyone else's).

So far, I've come up with the idea for financial brackets (XYZ income = XYZ max limit of kids). Guess who won't be able to afford "Hum Paanch Humaare Pachees" anymore?

Of course, for this to work, Governments at all levels (Center, State, District/City/Municipal) + cops will have to have the g**nd mein dum to enforce it. But I think that would be optimal.

 

[NAMICA]

Yes they are very much.

Don't worry these two bills are in RSS agenda so they will not harm hindus.