India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[jai jaganath]

They already breed like rats and are radicalized and are inside the country.
Sheikh Hasina is only to let the Bangladesh state be friendly to us, the people there are all 5 times nomoj a day jihadis.

Exactly the moment Hasina goes situation will go south
Mainly even if we see infiltration of rohingyas then carring out fidaeen attacks would be very easy for them
Anyway not the thread to talk

 

[Master Chief]

Bringing back artillery duels on the LOC would be the best response, since it hits the actual perpetrators, the paki Army, and they cannot bear the costs of prolonged ammunition expenditure in their current state.

Hitting jihadi cannon fodder is pointless and will only elicit chuckles from paki Army barracks.

Without grabbing land in Pok, artillery duels are useless.. foot soldiers from both sides die ( a few more Pakis than Indian Army soldiers).. But, at the end nothing is achieved except a few destroyed bunkers.. Unleash artillery only if India has plans for a major cross loc operation..
Hitting a regional Pak Army HQ would be better than just going for artillery duels.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Do you remember the artillery-duel times? During the free-ceasefire period between 2014-2021, we lost numerous amount of soldiers to CFVs. Yes, Pakistan also lost a similar or more number of soldiers, but they don't really care for the fodder cannon soldiers they have.

Yes, we got some cool videos of Pakistani bunkers getting demolished or sniper shots, but think about the ground situation. If you are deployed on LoC, your life can end at any moment from a stray bullet, sniper shot, or mortar round.

This was a military operation without any outcome. Such military operations are loose-loose for both sides.

Situation has changed, where the paki side cannot sustain these duels the way it used before. If not arty duels, then there needs to be surgical strikes on the pakistani troops themselves, rather than Jihadis. If not even that, then at least use Pashtun and Baloch assets to impose more mass casualty events on their army.

 

[mist_consecutive]

If you hit military establishment then there will be retaliation on our establishment as well which both sides avoid. This is unsaid rule. Hence pork’s deploy terrorist to hit our Army than directly getting involved.

1. Pakistan attacks Pathankot AFS (mil establishment), and we hit back at terror camps (surgical strike, non-mil targets).
2. Pakistan attacks CRPF convoy (mil target), we hit back at Balakot terror camps (airstrikes at non-mil target).
3. The very next day, Pakistan takes long-range missile shots at our jets (mil target), forcing us to retaliate. They target our army camps with glide bombs (again, mil target). What do we do ? NOTHING.

So, let's crawl out of this cucked mentality of not targeting the military. Anything high-value is a target.

Saying is easy on ground it’s tough! Both sides establishments are within reach if you hit there brigade headquarters or ISI establishments and take out HVT they can do the same to us. Losing our HVT/ brigadiers will blow out of proportion and both govt and army will be under pressure. Escalating further will be not less than war. Can Gol come out as an aggressor to the world? Even during surgical strikes and Air strikes we hit only terrorists camps aided by pork army and didn’t touch any pork army establishments/ headquarters/HVT. Poundinb border outposts in artillery duel is sector level cross firing controlled under threshold level of escalation.

Pakistan came out as an aggressor in Balakot while we tried to peddle the narrative that we hit only non-military terrorist camps. Anybody gave a fuck ? America was twirling its mustache as F-16 scored a kill.

And about killing HVTs, numerous times Pakistan targeted our army camps, officers' mess, and family quarters in Kashmir, heck, even outside Kashmir. This is a false sense of security. There might be honor among thieves, but there is none between muslims and kafirs.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Situation has changed, where the paki side cannot sustain these duels the way it used before. If not arty duels, then there needs to be surgical strikes on the pakistani troops themselves, rather than Jihadis. If not even that, then at least use Pashtun and Baloch assets to impose more mass casualty events on their army.

If you are talking about dire economic conditions, that is the problem of the Pakistani junta, not the military. They get surplus support from their masters, USA and China. They will redirect humanitarian aid to buy bullets and bombs if required. Also, China is and will support Pakistan against us like the USA is helping Ukraine, perhaps even at a higher level.

Yes, there needs to be a surgical strike. I will say we should go forward, and have another Balakot 2.0 and settle our scores from Feb 2019, or get humiliated again like the last time, either way, will work to our benefit in long term.

 

[shade]

1. Pakistan attacks Pathankot AFS (mil establishment), and we hit back at terror camps (surgical strike, non-mil targets).
2. Pakistan attacks CRPF convoy (mil target), we hit back at Balakot terror camps (airstrikes at non-mil target).
3. The very next day, Pakistan takes long-range missile shots at our jets (mil target), forcing us to retaliate. They target our army camps with glide bombs (again, mil target). What do we do ? NOTHING.

So, let's crawl out of this cucked mentality of not targeting the military. Anything high-value is a target.

Pakistan came out as an aggressor in Balakot while we tried to peddle the narrative that we hit only non-military terrorist camps. Anybody gave a fuck ? America was twirling its mustache as F-16 scored a kill.

Saar, they will escalate into war saar, war is bad for economy saar, $5 Trillion ka kya hoga saar!

GoI is blinded by obsession with economies while all our enemies have a field day.
Momins both within and without need a "lesson" delivered to them every 5 years

 

[TopWatcher]

If you are talking about dire economic conditions, that is the problem of the Pakistani junta, not the military. They get surplus support from their masters, USA and China. They will redirect humanitarian aid to buy bullets and bombs if required. Also, China is and will support Pakistan against us like the USA is helping Ukraine, perhaps even at a higher level.

Yes, there needs to be a surgical strike. I will say we should go forward, and have another Balakot 2.0 and settle our scores from Feb 2019, or get humiliated again like the last time, either way, will work to our benefit in long term.

But on their army bases, terrorist hide out won't impact.

 

[mist_consecutive]

assured that necessary action is underway

 

[mokoman]

assured that necessary action is underway

could be referring to the people arrested and ongoing search for shooters

 

[vishnugupt]

This is the full video of a radicalized indian Muslim who is saying our fallen soldiers in recent poonch terror attack will going to hell

Indian armed forces are so much secular that they don't wish Hindu festival but never forget to go in iftar parties.

That is the reason why children of armed forces speak more poison against India.

 

[flanker99]

assured that necessary action is underway

i honestly dont see any overt action .....govt and their lapdogs in media are all silent best case some hvt in pakland gets clapped worst case after some time we get to see some fried pigs

 

[vidhwanshak]

 

[Gandaberunda]

i honestly dont see any overt action .....govt and their lapdogs in media are all silent best case some hvt in pakland gets clapped worst case after some time we get to see some fried pigs

G20 is around the corner if we retaliate now pakis will escalate attacks so that the event gets moved out of Srinagar as they want. GoI won’t do anything till G20 is done and no hope of retaliation after the event is done.

 

[Tactical Doge]

You know what I'd like to see?

Heads of State meeting of the G20 in Kashmir, Mudiji attends, all public speeches done, agendas of the meeting discussed. Then, the venue lights dim, and on the big screen behind Mudiji, satellite imagery of terror launchpads in PoK and Pak-proper pops up. Confusion amongst delegates. Mudiji says nothing, an SPG operative brings a black laptop (remote FCS, basically), he punches in an authorization code, and another live-feed of a missile silo comes online, showing fiery CMs launching. Alarm in the halls. Few minutes later, missiles hit the targets, updated satellite images display utter decimation. Gasps in the halls. Mudiji finally speaks, calls for silence, says that today marks the beginning of the end of terror. Leaves.

If there were a deranged, demi-genocidal bastard as our PM, insane enough to do stuff like this..... just imagine....

Sorry, I was tired of memorizing the anomalies of the periodic table....

Average DFIian after reading Man in the high castle*

 

[cereal killer]

1. Pakistan attacks Pathankot AFS (mil establishment), and we hit back at terror camps (surgical strike, non-mil targets).
2. Pakistan attacks CRPF convoy (mil target), we hit back at Balakot terror camps (airstrikes at non-mil target).
3. The very next day, Pakistan takes long-range missile shots at our jets (mil target), forcing us to retaliate. They target our army camps with glide bombs (again, mil target). What do we do ? NOTHING.

So, let's crawl out of this cucked mentality of not targeting the military. Anything high-value is a target.



Pakistan came out as an aggressor in Balakot while we tried to peddle the narrative that we hit only non-military terrorist camps. Anybody gave a fuck ? America was twirling its mustache as F-16 scored a kill.

And about killing HVTs, numerous times Pakistan targeted our army camps, officers' mess, and family quarters in Kashmir, heck, even outside Kashmir. This is a false sense of security. There might be honor among thieves, but there is none between muslims and kafirs.

Awesome post... My thoughts exactly. We are fighting a battle with Both hands tied.
No wonder Paxtan dared to pull a stunt within hours after Balakot air strikes. They had gauged the extent of our resolve.
Can't help but wonder what if we were dealing with a slightly economically stronger Paxtan?
I know if the roles were reversed Paxstan would retaliate with everything they got.

 

[RocketMan]

On a civilizational timescale such pinprick attacks by Islamists achieve little but only galvanise Hindus to resist them even more . Due to vast population difference & rotting economy Pakistan is destined to remain a zombie state for 2-3 decades at least. India must learn something from Chinese to remain quiet & build up it's strength for an inevitable war for the "final solution of Pakistan problem" in the future. We must shed Ahimsa , vishwaguru syndrome must be discarded for cold hearted "Chanakya niti" & aim must be annihilation of all our enemies by any means necessary! If required brute force must be used for defeat in detail of Pakistan & it's dismemberment . It'll require a massive build up & a strong military-industrial complex .

 

[Butter Chicken]

 

[Indrajit]

Situation has changed, where the paki side cannot sustain these duels the way it used before. If not arty duels, then there needs to be surgical strikes on the pakistani troops themselves, rather than Jihadis. If not even that, then at least use Pashtun and Baloch assets to impose more mass casualty events on their army.

I have been hoping that the GoI would fast track ATAGS production massively. We need to completely overwhelm Pakistan while scaring them about what we have in reserve. Otherwise the difference is unfortunately incremental as others have been saying.

 

[JBH22]

I have been hoping that the GoI would fast track ATAGS production massively. We need to completely overwhelm Pakistan while scaring them about what we have in reserve. Otherwise the difference is unfortunately incremental as others have been saying.

If Indian were that pro-active and had foresight we would have overwhelmed many adversaries with our sheer weight. Unfortunately that is not the case, despite seeing how adversaries are re-arming, we still intend to fight under equipped, in any case it's the poor guy from Indian hinterland who will die.
The next war all the elite jamaat will run to london and new york

 

[ezsasa]

@FalconSlayers there was post of pak year wise casualties in some thread recently, can you post it here.