India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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When we will be economically stronger than China and conventionally superior to both Pakistan and China combined, only then retaking PoK will be possible.
Domestically, it'll be a war difficult to defend. Apart from DFI, people have no interest in war. Occasional pulverization of Pakis is welcome, but war- no
 

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Domestically, it'll be a war difficult to defend. Apart from DFI, people have no interest in war. Occasional pulverization of Pakis is welcome, but war- no
Yeah public has gone soft... Previous generation had the balls to withstand body bags coming. Now with social media & everything people will force a ceasefire. Abhinandan situation in 1970's or 80's wouldn't have stopped a sure shot war.
 

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Yeah public has gone soft... Previous generation had the balls to withstand body bags coming. Now with social media & everything people will force a ceasefire. Abhinandan situation in 1970's or 80's wouldn't have stopped a sure shot war.
What would have happened if Abhinandan would not have been returned? Possible Hypothesis
 

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War, which is why people were shitting their pants. In 80s/90s pakis delaying the return itself might have caused war, unless govt censored news of the incident.

late 80’s country was bankrupt and IPKF in SL was going on, early 90’s political and economic instability due to coalition govts had already started.

on one hand Kashmir files is being discussed, which was mainly due to a compromised central leadership.

So no, political will to go to war unlikely in that period. it’s only after 98 nuclear tests, any sort of geo political posturing was shown.
 

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late 80’s country was bankrupt and IPKF in SL was going on, early 90’s political and economic instability due to coalition govts had already started.

on one hand Kashmir files is being discussed, which was mainly due to a compromised central leadership.

So no, political will to go to war unlikely in that period. it’s only after 98 nuclear tests, any sort of geo political posturing was shown.
Narsimha rao govt was capable of doing it. People would have been raring for it. But yeah, VP singh, cong both would have done nothing except censor the news out and pretend nothing happened.

Though situation would not have come up at all, since no oe had the idea of hitting conventionally for terror hits. Fairly recent, before this all we did were some specops.
 

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Yeah public has gone soft... Previous generation had the balls to withstand body bags coming. Now with social media & everything people will force a ceasefire. Abhinandan situation in 1970's or 80's wouldn't have stopped a sure shot war.
we escalate . fire some cruise missiles - sink some pakistani warships , bomb their base . whatever.

:dude: too bad , Pakistan should have just kept him .
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ABHINANDAN'S CAPTURE HAD NO EFFECT ON OUR DECISION TO ESCALATE ?

This is just propaganda peddled by Pakistani handles which made a dent in the soft brains of some Indians.
  • Abhinandan was an upper-caste Hindu hence India did not escalate.
  • Abhinandan's father was an important person in Airforce hence we did not escalate.
And bullshit along similar lines.

The truth is, UAE and some other Arab countries pleaded to us to spare Pakistan and stuck some back-handed deal with us, including the quick release of Abhinandan, saving their asses.
Our western fleet left Mumbai harbor, was en route to Karachi to light it up one more time. As the Pakistani maritime radars saw the blips coming closer, Gen. Bajwa's legs started to get weaker.

And then we aborted the mission because, at last, we are grade-A baniyas.
 

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HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ABHINANDAN'S CAPTURE HAD NO EFFECT ON OUR DECISION TO ESCALATE ?

This is just propaganda peddled by Pakistani handles which made a dent in the soft brains of some Indians.
  • Abhinandan was an upper-caste Hindu hence India did not escalate.
  • Abhinandan's father was an important person in Airforce hence we did not escalate.
And bullshit along similar lines.

The truth is, UAE and some other Arab countries pleaded to us to spare Pakistan and stuck some back-handed deal with us, including the quick release of Abhinandan, saving their asses.
Our western fleet left Mumbai harbor, was en route to Karachi to light it up one more time. As the Pakistani maritime radars saw the blips coming closer, Gen. Bajwa's legs started to get weaker.

And then we aborted the mission because, at last, we are grade-A baniyas.
To this day I cannot understand why Katal-Ki-Raat was cancelled. Wonder what sort of backdoor deal was done with Saudi/UAE/US
 

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HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ABHINANDAN'S CAPTURE HAD NO EFFECT ON OUR DECISION TO ESCALATE ?

This is just propaganda peddled by Pakistani handles which made a dent in the soft brains of some Indians.
  • Abhinandan was an upper-caste Hindu hence India did not escalate.
  • Abhinandan's father was an important person in Airforce hence we did not escalate.
And bullshit along similar lines.

The truth is, UAE and some other Arab countries pleaded to us to spare Pakistan and stuck some back-handed deal with us, including the quick release of Abhinandan, saving their asses.
Our western fleet left Mumbai harbor, was en route to Karachi to light it up one more time. As the Pakistani maritime radars saw the blips coming closer, Gen. Bajwa's legs started to get weaker.

And then we aborted the mission because, at last, we are grade-A baniyas.
This is some sort of chutiya hopium that was spread last year by BJP IT cell to explain the retarded decision of not escalating despite a direct attempt by pakistan to attack our military installations.

Anybody who believes that some random twitter trend of we want abhinandan back resulted in the govt backing down needs to go to a doctor ASAP.

Kuch bhi ho blame it on the public is the new mantra.

The actions that took place after balakot were in no way influenced by public opinion which was by the way a tiny fringe minority.

Matter of fact is that external pressure combined with the not so great performance of IAF resulted in the decision to not escalate the war.

It was probably the worst decision to be taken and brought to light the limitations and parallels between the opposition and BJP.

India never got an other chance like that again to nail pakistan down.

Instead we ended up with galwan where we never responded to them due to multidude of factors.

All of this as you pointed out is retarded pakistani fantasy.
 

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