India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[maximus777]

Apparently both retaliations are just tit for tat reactive measures, not enough punch to cease terrorism push by pakis permanently. Only effective solution is changing the demography at LOC, capture their forward post whenever they try to push terrorists into our side and it has to be done at some point of time.

Have been repeating this ad nauseum

 

[Srinivas_K]

Masssssive aid by Americans, plus east Pakistan was the economic powerhouse as far as Pakistan was considered.
And well , Pakistan was called the South Korea of the subcontinent.
Thye mocked us on hindu rate of growth , lol
Now who is more Hindu? Us or them

Asian tiger due to American aid?

don't fall for propaganda. Pakistan is good at propaganda.

 

[Moroboshi]

Asian tiger due to American aid?

don't fall for propaganda. Pakistan is good at propaganda.

Not propaganda. They were growing at twice of India's rate. Both countries were getting foreign aid. They were considered the better of the former British India by a mile. And as Maharaj rightly pointed out, India's performance was derisively called"Hindu rate of growth"

 

[THESIS THORON]

Not propaganda. They were growing at twice of India's rate. Both countries were getting foreign aid. They were considered the better of the former British India by a mile. And as Maharaj rightly pointed out, India's performance was derisively called"Hindu rate of growth"

yes this is true.

 

[Ayushraj]

Wait till you meet Pakis who claim they won 1971 as they held off indian offensive and only lost in the east because of having less numbers there.

Porki establishment was very much Happy after 1971 war.
Bhutto was happy that Sheikh Mujibhur Rahman was removed as a pm candidate of United porkistan. Now he will enjoy sole power.

Their general were very happy gonnathat they saved west porkistan or Punjab. They care only for Punjab and nothing else. They openly said why to fight for black people (bengalis) . At war their was single Brigadier rank officer in East Pakistan. No one in porki army officer ranks want to fight in Bangladesh.

Porki establishment loves of destroy porkistan in order to gain power.

 

[THESIS THORON]

WHY DO PAKIS CLAIM THAT THEY MAKE KLJ 7 RADAR??

 

[Srinivas_K]

Not propaganda. They were growing at twice of India's rate. Both countries were getting foreign aid. They were considered the better of the former British India by a mile. And as Maharaj rightly pointed out, India's performance was derisively called"Hindu rate of growth"

growth with US aid, and Pakistan is considered as asian tiger with this growth based on US aid.

and you are supporting it.

Great !

 

[Rudra7678]

India set to take part in SCO anti-terror exercise in Pakistan | India News - Times of India

India News: India is likely to send a three-member team to participate in a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) anti-terror exercise in Pakistan next week, TO

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

What????

 

[Ayushraj]

^ How was Pakistan economically better off in the mid-1960s? Based on what. What manufacturing and services did they possess back then, that India did not have? It's for certain, that they received far more aid per capita, than India did. Agriculturally, the more fertile parts of Punjab, were in Pakistan. That much is true.

Porki were rich because of East porkistan.
Bangladesh produced jute for export purpose and this lead earning of porkistan in massive scale and whole money that bangladesh earned was transferred for development of Punjab.

Porki got hell lot of American aid and technology. Even European Union also supplied them aid. Porkistan was in hand of army dictator so their was clear demarcation of power.

After 1980s due to Afghan jihad Kalashnikov culture was introduced. Drugs became main source of earning. Porkis earned by printing fake currency and through hawala system(money laundering)

Now world is strict towards money laundering fatf Strictly takes action. After 2016 due to note bandi whole business of fake currency was ruined. American aid is also reduced exponentially.
So porkistan has no clear source of income. Export are increasing but 70%of raw materials required for exports are imported. So this lead to devalue of rupee. No one invest in porkistan. From developing economy it's turned to frontier economy (frontier means that world know nothing where porki economy will go.no one is interested to go frontier (borders of nation) .)

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Thread please...

Very long thread but very interesting, how porki tank regiments were reduced to metal graveyard....

1965 War should be explored more in the mainstream and online. It was a Indian Victory but India did make some mistakes but a Indian victory nonetheless but I don’t understand the hesitation some people have with exploring more about this war and honoring Indian Victories and martyrs who made supreme Sacrifice in this war for the nation.The less India and Indians talk or explores about the 1965 war more it gives porkjabis opportunities to build and set the narrative in there favor against India.

 

[Moroboshi]

growth with US aid, and Pakistan is considered as asian tiger with this growth based on US aid.

and you are supporting it.

Great !

How about looking at their numbers dispassionately and cut the sarcasm?

Aid alone cannot account for double digit growth rate, which Pakistan had for at least a couple of years in that period. Averaging 7% growth for the decade and even higher in the 70s. Do you think US aid stopped after 1980 which is why Pakistan slid and continues to slide now? Why is it so hard to admit that Pakistan was on the right track before doubling down on becoming Taliban light in the 80s? They were doing something right.

https://www.cgdev.org/page/aid-pakistan-numbers

Pakistan GDP - Gross Domestic Product 2023

Gross Domestic Product of Pakistan remain the same as last year.

countryeconomy.com

also do you think India did not receive similar aid? US and USSR were competing to gain influence in India via aid. India was actually one of the largest recepient of US aid during the 1960s.

Aid wars: U.S.-Soviet competition in India

www.brookings.edu

From this 1988 nyt article:

U.S. Role in India: Shrinking Aid, Less Influence (Published 1988)

www.nytimes.com

"A little more than two decades ago, the United States was India's biggest and most influential foreign aid partner, proudly helping to construct power plants, factories, university campuses and other symbols of modernization in the world's most populous democracy."

And this what we managed with that: https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/india

How was India merely managing ~3% growths while Pakistan doing so much better?

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Funny thing is reporters from reuters were guided by paki army to record the area where these trees had been "bombed" but were denied entry 3 times into the very area where IAF said it had actually dropped it's bombs.
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...YQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3egl2Fl8xdhaS13Xh4KwzI&ampcf=1"

"https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3uTgHUhxTmZCAe2gVlduoz&ampcf=1"

And note that Reuters is known for its anti India rhetorics.

I had gone to their pakistani subreddit too and I was extremely surprised to see that they think they won 1965 war. When 2 somewhat Pakistanis dared to make the claim that it was stalemate at best and most probably a loss, they downvoted him to hell.

Porkies are extremely brainwashed by ISPR and are scared of finding the truth and hence don't try to even look at neutral sources of news regarding their stupid military who get a regular beating from our armed forces every now and then.

The Majority of sources Porkistanis always prop up to show there “ Great Victory” in 1965 are all western sources. Western Countries led by the US especially in 1960s and 1970s were very Pro-Porkistani and Anti-India because of India’s neutrality and growing relations with Soviets.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

India set to take part in SCO anti-terror exercise in Pakistan | India News - Times of India

India News: India is likely to send a three-member team to participate in a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) anti-terror exercise in Pakistan next week, TO

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

What????

Masterstroke???

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Masterstroke???

Can sugar companies manufacture diabetes medicine?

 

[THESIS THORON]

Can sugar companies manufacture diabetes medicine?

on point.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Masterstroke???

Why send 3 membran only, send atleast 10 battalions of 1000 men each along with 5 SF companies with full battle gear and armoured support.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

growth with US aid, and Pakistan is considered as asian tiger with this growth based on US aid.

and you are supporting it.

Great !

We are not supporting it , its a fact of that era which Is long gone.
Our population did everything good or bad for us.

 

[The Shrike]

US general does not want to answer the question in the open setting

 

[doreamon]

We are not supporting it , its a fact of that era which Is long gone.
Our population did everything good or bad for us.

Thats why i loathe socialists , communists more than even ISIS .. They kept india's two generation poor living for one meal to another . and still have the audacity to preach their ideas in media , universities .. When they failed to make india grow they blamed it on Hinduism .. Called it hindu rate of growth .

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Thats why i loathe socialists , communists more than even ISIS .. They kept india's two generation poor living for one meal to another . and still have the audacity to preach their ideas in media , universities .. When they failed to make india grow they blamed it on Hinduism .. Called it hindu rate of growth .

It was ambedkar , pokrs grow on aids , india took aid but not as compared to porks