India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

why dont we give bombs to freedom fighters

Government of Bharat does not indulge in that kind of practices.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

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The quest for separation combined with toxic deeni doctrine of taqlid slave porkystani army stands no chance before mullah ashrafiya nexus.

 

[Poseidon]

As I said before, Russia-Pak convergence on Afghanistan will spread to other sectors slowly.
Concerning development for India.

 

[Covfefe]

Paki terrorist scumbags

Dallas in Indian Punjab will claim - they are just like us other than the religion- the food, the language, the culture- it's so identical. It's this "Hindutva" government's election agenda, which was written in Hindi heartland, to create a diss between the Punjabis on either sides of the border.
We specialise in gullibility.

 

[fire starter]

Paki terrorist scumbags

Khali khopdis be like.

 

[Covfefe]

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Russia is desperate for money to keep it's defence industry afloat. While their market was already dwindling, China has swooped in big time to eat up their market share.

Other than that, there hardly seems to be any congruence between Russia and Pakistan. Russia is an energy and technology supplier, Pakistan is well Pakistan. Access to sea isn't something that Pak can sell to Russia- for Europe it already has a mix match of sea and land routes, for Americas ports on its east and access to Arabian sea can be facilitated by Iran which has a better role to play in anti US stance. Without economic interests, it can be at the best a transactional relationship wherein Ruskies sell them some weapons (Pak can only buy so much) and they paint it green and name it after an Central Asian invader.
For India, it looks like the reality has set in, and the MEA and MoD guys know that Russia is China's lieutenant regardless of our weapons dealing with them.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Paki terrorist scumbags

Saale behen ke lode suwar , we need to prove nothing to these bastards about how we treat minorities etc , what bad things happen here have happened there since last 74 years, saale suwar ke bacche inbred bakrichod bhadwe.

 

[Sir pe tapla]

why dont we give bombs to freedom fighters

How do you know we don't?

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

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Nobody will ever remember this typical slave porkystani chooran.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Nobody will ever remember this typical slave porkystani chooran.

Ye nobody will ye

 

[Abtron3]

The quest for separation combined with toxic deeni doctrine of taqlid slave porkystani army stands no chance before mullah ashrafiya nexus.

Can you please explain doctrine of taqlid and mullah ashrafiya nexus?

 

[Sir pe tapla]

The Majority of sources Porkistanis always prop up to show there “ Great Victory” in 1965 are all western sources. Western Countries led by the US especially in 1960s and 1970s were very Pro-Porkistani and Anti-India because of India’s neutrality and growing relations with Soviets.

While that is certainly true that many US sources did try to push the rhetoric of Pakistanis winning the war because they denied India to capture their capital (and that to with ceasefire lol) and completely omiting anything about operation Gibraltar, there were many western based articles that wrote the truth too. It is the bad habit of majority porkies selectively choosing shit that makes them feel superior about themselves.

Though credit where credit is due. I said majority because a lonely Pakistani while arguing with other delusional Pakistanis was the one who linked these neutral sources:

Note: Though he is a bit more sane than his delusional brethren, even he believes it was a stalemate while linking and quoting articles that shows the complete opposite lol. But this is the best one can find, I am quoting his full argument:



"It was officially a stalemate because it resulted in no exchange of territory. Unofficially plenty of Pakistani and Neutral academics have pointed out that Pakistan gained territory in Kashmir but India gained territory in Punjab and was within firing distance of Lahore. FFS they had tanks in Dograi is less than 10 kilometers from Allama Iqbal International airport. If a ceasefire had not been signed, street-by-street fighting in Lahore was a real possibility.

U.S. Federal Research Division (mind you they were aligned with Pakistan during the 1965 war) wrote

The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy—on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.

Former New York Times reporter Arif Jamal wrote in his book Shadow War (I think this guy is a western Chamcha tbh but his credentials are amazing. He was born and raised in Pakistan, graduated from Quaid E azam university and was offered a fellowship at Harvard)

This time, India's victory was nearly total: India accepted cease-fire only after it had occupied 740 square miles [1,900 km2], though Pakistan had made marginal gains of 210 square miles [540 km2] of territory. Despite the obvious strength of the Indian wins, both countries claim to have been victorious.

Stanley Wolpert, an American historian who wrote one of the best books on Jinnah and seemed quite in awe of Jinnah wrote

In three weeks the second Indo-Pak War ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on U.S. ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the cease-fire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub's chagrin

Don't try to revise history. If you accept that Indian soldiers had captured Dograi (Which the Pakistani military never denied) then open up google maps and look at where Dograi is. The war was "officially" a stalemate but ask any general and they'd have preferred the territory India captured in Pakistan over the gains Pakistan had in Kashmir. Revising history results in two things

1. Some idiots will falsely believe that another war is a viable solution to India-Pak relations.
2. The country doesn't learn from its mistakes in the 1965/1971 wars."

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Can you please explain doctrine of taqlid and mullah ashrafiya nexus?

Thinking by mooslames is prohibited under the principle of taqlid thats aqli kalam haram hai.1% ashraf-mullahfags combine uses taqlid to impose their views on the fellow inbreds and uses gangsters politics Ambedkar’s term to make them conform.Cocksuckers stress milli takhassus that is asspecial deeni identity. Kashmir before Reorganization act was such area therefore no muqallid maulana ka choda ever opposed Article 370.

The filthy subhuman ashraf that controls mooooslame voting chose mooslame league in 1945-46 elections and illegally created porkystan. As being moooslame shiethole taqlid is also enforced upon slave porkystani and not even porkystani half dyk army must comply with taqlid evident from the fact how musharraf got buttfucked post lalmasjid gaandmasti.

 

[Abtron3]

Thinking by mooslames is prohibited under the principle of taqlid thats aqli kalam haram hai.1% ashraf-mullahfags combine uses taqlid to impose their views on the fellow inbreds and uses gangsters politics Ambedkar’s term to make them conform.Cocksuckers stress milli takhassus that is asspecial deeni identity. Kashmir before Reorganization act was such area therefore no muqallid maulana ka choda ever opposed Article 370.

The same filthy subhuman ashraf that controls mooooslame voting chose mooslame league in 1945-46 elections and illegally created porkystan. As a moooslame shiethole taqlid is also enforced upon slave porkystani and not even porkystani half dyk army is defenseless before taqlid which is evident from the fact how musharraf got buttfucked post lal masjid gaandmasti.

So taqlid outright ban logical thinking in mullahfags.
only 1% elite chu*yas of mullah ashrafiya gang can tell them what is right and give orders and all of them follow. blindly.
Got it.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

So taqlid outright ban logical thinking in mullahfags.
only 1% elite chu*yas of mullah ashrafiya gang can tell them what is right and give orders and all of them follow. blindly.
Got it.

This used to be the case with arabfags also and caused the assrape of so called golden age of islame which ironically had nothing to do with islame. Mutazallis and tahqiqis were the one responsible for that small period when science was getting transferred to mooslames abbasids khalifa who supported free thought. Bayt al-Hikma (House of Wisdom) was created by mutazallis, where the arts of translation and scholarship reached their zenith and it included Hindus jews christians and idol worshippers to help them learn science.

So both al-ghazali and ibn-taymiyyah - from the sufi side attacked the rational-spiritual tahqiqis and finished them off by 13ad.So all possibility of reform or what you call ishtehad died in 922 ad with the execution of the mutazalli mansoor Hallaj who proclaimed divinity within a human being = Original DHARMIC law of cosmos come on youall know what that law is thats the eternal BRAHMAN is not distinct from humans is profound and purely a SANATANI BHARTIYA thought process and science.

Mutazilla also acknowledged that time is cyclical not superlinear they learn from BHARTIYAS Hindu.

Today you see mbs going a bit plural introduced MAHABHARAT etc in curriculum and he started putting mullahs ashrafiyafags on leash because he is afraid of arab spring in his own saudiarabia.Want to learn more?

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Demolished : claims of islamic golden age

Credit* : This thread has been compiled out of information gathered from multiple sources documentations etc. The works of Sanjay Dixit The Jaipur Dialogues ,RAJ VEDAM and NS RAJARAM, SANGAM TALKS and INDICTALES,Intellectual Kshatriya. PRACHYAM, Abhijeet CHAVDA. NICHOLAS KAZANAS and The works...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[THESIS THORON]

were they doing toilet cleaning like in arab world

 

[notaname]

DGP Punjab IPS Sahota has directed all border district SSPs to start Night Domination Operations along the Indo-Pak international border from 9 pm to 4 am. He also ordered SSPs to give special attention to drones/suspicious persons: Office of Director General of Police, Punjab

 

[samsaptaka]

found this oped, I am sure there must be more legit academic papers out there

India and Pakistan: A tale of two economies

Until a decade ago, Pakistan's per capita income was superior to India's, despite the latter's vaunted growth story. How did things change?

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Man, what is the author going on and on about...porkies are in a bad state because they're guided by radicalised mullahs ! Simple..all this economic bs he is spouting is nonsense.

 

[samsaptaka]

Government of Bharat does not indulge in that kind of practices.

Col. RAWjesh wants you to keep thinking like that...