India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[Covfefe]

so any blacklisting or sanctions will be deadly for the world if a civil war breaks out.

In case of a conflict of such scale, Game Theory would suggest that preemptively nuking Pak is the best choice for India. However, political considerations might come to fore.

 

[FalconSlayers]

In case of a conflict of such scale, Game Theory would suggest that preemptively nuking Pak is the best choice for India. However, political considerations might come to fore.

Why nuke them? Try to disarm their WMDs, their WMDs are their elixir for survival, must be eliminated.

 

[Cheran]

His security assessment sounds fair enough. However, his diplomatic expectations and political discourse seem to be colored by his ideological affiliation.

1) He says,
"Pakistan’s economic revival is contingent on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which passes through the Indian territory of Gilgit-Baltistan, illegally occupied by Pakistan" - It's the other way round. CPEC loan repayments are contingent to Pak's Economic Revival. Seems, he has fallen to the Pak media's trap- once Afghanistan is stable, CPEC will be a grand success. Enough has been discussed about this.

2) "There were speculative reports of Afghan terrorists operating in J&K in large numbers, primarily members of the Hezb-e-Islami party of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar" - Hekmatyar is a known ISI puppet. Don't think that our security establishment is expecting anything positive from him

3)"Revocation of Article 370 and experiments of democracy through panchayats and district councils have failed to win the hearts and minds of the people of J&K."- Revocation of 370 can still be questioned but conduct of Panchayat elections is a problem too. Pure political bias.

4) "The overdrive of the pro-Right wing media and politicians on contrived linkages between Indian Muslims and the Taliban have further queered the pitch"- When the members of prominent religious institutions and Muslim Personal Law Board are sharing congratulatory messages, and the pawns are conducting podcasts encouraging the "struggle", what is the expected response?? Sab changa si???


5)"Diplomatically, we must not shy away from a trilateral engagement with Pakistan and China to bring about peace in J&K and Ladakh" - Why not? It's gazelle's diplomatic failure to strike a deal with the tiger that results in its death.


General Panag is an ideologically biased columnist, not much good is ever gonna come from his pen.

Engagement/Dialogue?

Why India should engage and negotiate to foreign countries on its own territory? and what happened to all the engagements that were done in the past?

Who is the aggressor here? is it India? who blocked our patrols at LAC, who is doing CFVs at LOC? Who is sending terrorists inside Kashmir? Is it India?

This "engagement jumla" train has long left the station.

Going Kinetic is only the answer left now and it is coming. Who will initiate first, only time will tell.

Post-retirement pension of this General and others like him on foreign payroll should be withheld with immediate effect.

To detect agenda you simply look for circular arguments, space-filler cliche, putting onus on the target and impervious solutions.

India is not interested in involving any third party into any of its internal matters. This use of ‘trilateral’ adjective is a nothing but a chicanery to say it differently. China has no business to be in the region and he wants not only to get them involved in Kashmir but also Afghanistan which is best bilateral or a goner state of lowest denominators.

This is not the first time nor will be the last when this Ex generail's anti-Modi hate turns into propaganda for CCP, Pakistan & now Taliban.

His ranting can be summarized as:-

Peace in "south asia" depends on BJP's policy as though it is BJP i.e. BJP government i.e. Indian government that is an impediment to peace in "south asia".

 

[FalconSlayers]

Report: Indian Army to acquire 100+ Israeli Sky Striker kamikaze drones for surgical strikes. Will be manufactured in India by Alpha Design-Elbit Joint Venture. Has a strike range of over 100 km.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Report: Indian Army to acquire 100+ Israeli Sky Striker kamikaze drones for surgical strikes. Will be manufactured in India by Alpha Design-Elbit JV. Has a strike range of over 100 km.

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What it does ? Goes to the target and kaboom or it carries some munitions ?

 

[FalconSlayers]

What it does ? Goes to the target and kaboom or it carries some munitions ?

“Loitering Munition”. fyi

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

“Loitering Munition”. fyi

Ok , I understood
It goes and then kaboom ,thanks.

 

[Moroboshi]

Porkies were saying in twitter that if India forcibly bury him their would be carnage

 

[Jimih]

In case of a conflict of such scale, Game Theory would suggest that preemptively nuking Pak is the best choice for India. However, political considerations might come to fore.

Just listen to this Trinidadian Maulana explaining the scenario

 

[ezsasa]

waited 24 hours just to see who retweets this, seems only Indians retweeted this.
no western human rights messiahs retweeted this. it's not like aditya kaul does not have western journalists following his timeline.

There exists a global victimhood hierarchy, Hindu victims are at the bottom of that hierarchy. Nobody will come to save us if shit hits the fan, we are on our own. Not letting shit hitting the fan is our own responsibility, no outsider is gonna do it for us. least we can do is, not getting swayed by emotions and make collective bad choices.

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I met Syed Ali Shah Geelani twice in life. Most interestingly when India Today invited me to speak at their 2011 Conclave in New Delhi where I exposed his links with masters across the border in Pakistan and how he supported terrorism. The crowd booed when he tried to respond.

 

[Apollo]

Heavy shelling @LoC yesterday night, many terrorists tried to infiltrate under the cover of dark. Ceasefire slowly breaking up, desperate terroristan trying to push jihadis in bunches. Illusion rounds fired upon to indentify & target the terrorists moving inwards.

 

[here2where]

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Bittersweet.

Sweet - the pig is dead.
Bitter - he didn't die earlier in an appropriate manner.

 

[Apollo]

Terroristan reopens two old airbases (Kotli and Rawalkot) located within 100 km from LOC. These airbases were closed for many years, now reactivated to provide logical support for terror training camps and swift movement of jihadis

 

[Tuco]

Terroristan reopens two old airbases (Kotli and Rawalkot) located within 100 km from LOC. These airbases were closed for many years, now reactivated to provide logical support for terror training camps and swift movement of jihadis

Do we look like fools now. I know that we have made improvements and stocked up during this 'Cease fire', but was this a mistake. Time will tell. Hopefully and as everybody always say Pork makes brilliant tactical moves without strategic thoughts behind it, hopefully this turns out to be one of those.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[JBH22]

Do we look like fools now. I know that we have made improvements and stocked up during this 'Cease fire', but was this a mistake. Time will tell. Hopefully and as everybody always say Pork makes brilliant tactical moves without strategic thoughts behind it, hopefully this turns out to be one of those.

Bad peace is still better than good war.
The use of terror to activate our fault lines is getting nullified since now you have a PM who is willingly to go up in the escalation ladder. Not puppet PM.
Terror will be useful if there is a change in political leadership.

 

[AMCA]

 

[here2where]

US sent a drone and killed Hafiz Saeed Khan ISIS-K leader.
Meanwhile we are yet to do the 'needful' with 'our' Hafiz Saeed.

Insh-ola. One can only wait.

 

[ezsasa]

Do we look like fools now. I know that we have made improvements and stocked up during this 'Cease fire', but was this a mistake. Time will tell. Hopefully and as everybody always say Pork makes brilliant tactical moves without strategic thoughts behind it, hopefully this turns out to be one of those.

can’t keep troops on high alert for a prolonged period of time, just like you can’t make a guy work two shifts for months on end. it causes fatigue, which in turn increases the chances of mistakes and damage.

Military leadership are professionals in their field, they know more about these things than we do, and they have more information on this than we do.

 

[Dessert Storm]

US sent a drone and killed Hafiz Saeed Khan ISIS-K leader.
Meanwhile we are yet to do the 'needful' with 'our' Hafiz Saeed.

Insh-ola. One can only wait.

Sure. There are two ways of to hurt Pakis. One is to do what you say.... doing the needful. Two is the way it's being done right now.... That this guy (and the likes) are alive, the pakis are in FATF Grey. You kill them n one more point of 'fulfilling obligations" under FATF gets knocked off, plus you in any case will have more Hafizs going around.
So let them bleed slow and you enjoy watching the Pakis taken apart bit by bit.