India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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When GoI showed aukaat to Terrorist Syed Geelani

Geelani- "arey koi darwaja toh kholo"
JKP- "Bhaag bose dk"

China: puts million uygurs in reeducation camps , disappears all dissenters - protesters , kills , runs people over with tanks

India: locks separatists house door from outside. LMAO

mind you i am not complaining . still pretty funny how china and india handles these things.
 
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China: puts million uygurs in reeducation camps , disappears all dissenters - protesters , kills , runs people over with tanks

India: locks separatists house door from outside. LMAO

mind you i am not complaining . still pretty funny how china and india handles these things.
Tbh, China does it better- "Communist or spare parts for hospitals- make your choice"
 

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Should be read, not nuisance.
This is what Ex generail says:-

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I have not seen any ideas from the Ex generail on as to how the underlined section can be explored.

India has never ever "shy-ed away" from any engagement/dialogue.

What can India do if these two countries want India's territory & will use terror as a policy to achieve it unless the suggestion is for us to capitulate for wider "Asian solidarity".
 

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This is what Ex generail says:-

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I have not seen any ideas from the Ex generail on as to how the underlined section can be explored.

India has never ever "shy-ed away" from any engagement/dialogue.

What can India do if these two countries want India's territory & will use terror as a policy to achieve it unless the suggestion is for us to capitulate for wider "Asian solidarity".
That’s why I said, “No Nuisance”.
 

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This is what Ex generail says:-

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I have not seen any ideas from the Ex generail on as to how the underlined section can be explored.

India has never ever "shy-ed away" from any engagement/dialogue.

What can India do if these two countries want India's territory & will use terror as a policy to achieve it unless the suggestion is for us to capitulate for wider "Asian solidarity".
His security assessment sounds fair enough. However, his diplomatic expectations and political discourse seem to be colored by his ideological affiliation.

1) He says,
"Pakistan’s economic revival is contingent on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which passes through the Indian territory of Gilgit-Baltistan, illegally occupied by Pakistan" - It's the other way round. CPEC loan repayments are contingent to Pak's Economic Revival. Seems, he has fallen to the Pak media's trap- once Afghanistan is stable, CPEC will be a grand success. Enough has been discussed about this.

2) "There were speculative reports of Afghan terrorists operating in J&K in large numbers, primarily members of the Hezb-e-Islami party of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar" - Hekmatyar is a known ISI puppet. Don't think that our security establishment is expecting anything positive from him

3)"Revocation of Article 370 and experiments of democracy through panchayats and district councils have failed to win the hearts and minds of the people of J&K."- Revocation of 370 can still be questioned but conduct of Panchayat elections is a problem too. Pure political bias.

4) "The overdrive of the pro-Right wing media and politicians on contrived linkages between Indian Muslims and the Taliban have further queered the pitch"- When the members of prominent religious institutions and Muslim Personal Law Board are sharing congratulatory messages, and the pawns are conducting podcasts encouraging the "struggle", what is the expected response?? Sab changa si???


5)"Diplomatically, we must not shy away from a trilateral engagement with Pakistan and China to bring about peace in J&K and Ladakh" - Why not? It's gazelle's diplomatic failure to strike a deal with the tiger that results in its death.


General Panag is an ideologically biased columnist, not much good is ever gonna come from his pen.
 

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This is what Ex generail says:-

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I have not seen any ideas from the Ex generail on as to how the underlined section can be explored.

India has never ever "shy-ed away" from any engagement/dialogue.

What can India do if these two countries want India's territory & will use terror as a policy to achieve it unless the suggestion is for us to capitulate for wider "Asian solidarity".
Engagement/Dialogue?

Why India should engage and negotiate to foreign countries on its own territory? and what happened to all the engagements that were done in the past?

Who is the aggressor here? is it India? who blocked our patrols at LAC, who is doing CFVs at LOC? Who is sending terrorists inside Kashmir? Is it India?

This "engagement jumla" train has long left the station.

Going Kinetic is only the answer left now and it is coming. Who will initiate first, only time will tell.

Post-retirement pension of this General and others like him on foreign payroll should be withheld with immediate effect.
 

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Should be read, not nuisance.
Yes the blame will be on government policy, same government (Delhi) will be blamed in Punjab.

Rest of the states and their subjects can fight their problems democratically but not in these two states.

This is how these tools plant ideas and give entitlement to speratists.
 

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that prosecution complex is developed by collusion of islamists and left .. many personalities working with foreign ngos , media houses are responsible for it .. Only one sided picture is shown .. And mass level propaganda has been going on in social media , wattsapp etc ... things have been blown out of proportion .. And some in right wing who do less and speak more provocative are also responsible ... Truth is opposite on ground level ... CAA is a example for it .. providing citizenship to prosecuted groups in neighbouring islamic nations was seen as prosecution of indian muslims ... And a planned riot was organized to further the cause whn Trump visited india . Not a word was spoken by the group when bengal violence happened ..
 

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Engagement/Dialogue?

Why India should engage and negotiate to foreign countries on its own territory? and what happened to all the engagements that were done in the past?

Who is the aggressor here? is it India? who blocked our patrols at LAC, who is doing CFVs at LOC? Who is sending terrorists inside Kashmir? Is it India?

This "engagement jumla" train has long left the station.

Going Kinetic is only the answer left now and it is coming. Who will initiate first, only time will tell.

Post-retirement pension of this General and others like him on foreign payroll should be withheld with immediate effect.
This imposter now not in army has nothing new to add.

Either he is a loser, naive or sold out. He made similar asertion when PLA intrusions happened. He blamed India as an aggressor. Last he was mocking Doval for being slightly off the mark with his Afghanistan assessment when himself was way off just weeks before TB 2.0 takeover.

I still don't know what he gains by doing all this when he shpuld be happily retired. May be he was taken in by Ajai Shukla and set in with ISI and Chinese lobby.
 

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If he indeed fell to a Sniper, I don't think the wound would be such small one
A .338 would have made a Half eaten Cupcake out of his head
A .50 Cal would literally evaporate his head
I had earlier shared a video wherein a hunter killed a Deer with a .50 Cal sniper, the round missed the target by few inches, but the energy of the .50 Cal was such that it pulled the eyes out of the deer just by passing half a feet away from its head
I'm pretty sure that was a random shot/ shrapnel that managed to connect to his head, no sniper would willingly aim for the head over the torso, and if he had a miniscule area to target he most likely wouldn't take the shot at all unless he had the option of sound masking.
 

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This is what Ex generail says:-

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I have not seen any ideas from the Ex generail on as to how the underlined section can be explored.

India has never ever "shy-ed away" from any engagement/dialogue.

What can India do if these two countries want India's territory & will use terror as a policy to achieve it unless the suggestion is for us to capitulate for wider "Asian solidarity".
To detect agenda you simply look for circular arguments, space-filler cliche, putting onus on the target and impervious solutions.

India is not interested in involving any third party into any of its internal matters. This use of ‘trilateral’ adjective is a nothing but a chicanery to say it differently. China has no business to be in the region and he wants not only to get them involved in Kashmir but also Afghanistan which is best bilateral or a goner state of lowest denominators.
 

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UN Designated Global Terrorist Syed Salahuddin can do a rally in Naya Pakistan, with usual Kashmir banega Pakshitstan.
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The only reason Pakroaches are not getting blacklisted is because they have weapons of mass destruction and is a failed state as well, so any blacklisting or sanctions will be deadly for the world if a civil war breaks out.
 

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This imposter now not in army has nothing new to add.

Either he is a loser, naive or sold out. He made similar asertion when PLA intrusions happened. He blamed India as an aggressor. Last he was mocking Doval for being slightly off the mark with his Afghanistan assessment when himself was way off just weeks before TB 2.0 takeover.

I still don't know what he gains by doing all this when he shpuld be happily retired. May be he was taken in by Ajai Shukla and set in with ISI and Chinese lobby.
Many factors, some are: His instant dislike for a Hindu Nationalist govt in the centre (atleast in his eyes), his instant dislike for the idea of a 'Hindu State'. He constantly cries about the politicisation of the Indian Military by Modi govt while comfortably forgetting about the past record of previous govts he served under.

Joining AAP is also a factor which is muddling his thought process, also he is a borderline Khalistani sympathiser no doubt about that.

Next factor is Bollywood, most actors and actresses are compromised by ISI, most of the Bollywood movies are financed by Hawala money of D-gang.

People like Shukla, Sawhney and Panag are only acting as 'useful idiots' in the hands of foreign adversaries.
 

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