India-China Border conflict

[maximus777]

The special forces carried guns, and Chinese coast guard captured 8 rifles, and refused to return.

Philippine Military Demands Return Equipment of Seized by China During Maritime Clash

The Philippine military has also released video footage of Monday’s incident in the South China Sea, which injured eight Filipino sailors, one seriously.

thediplomat.com

How can you allow some other country's forces to snatch your guns? Is it kindergarten? Unless Filipino navy surrendered. If so, then they will lose a sht ton of territory.

 

[mist_consecutive]

even if they have rifles , they wont fire , just like at LAC , its all show .

Filipinos will lose all the disputed shoals/islands slowly .

We need at aleast one trigger-happy country like Pakistan who doesn't think of consequences and fires / kills Chinese forces. Will be interesting to see how China reacts.

 

[Azaad]

We need at aleast one trigger-happy country like Pakistan who doesn't think of consequences and fires / kills Chinese forces. Will be interesting to see how China reacts.

Philippines can actually do it. It's treaty ally of the US.

 

[rockdog]

even if they have rifles , they wont fire , just like at LAC , its all show .

Filipinos will lose all the disputed shoals/islands slowly .

Same as LAC no-fire agreement between China and India.

China and Asean nations also have similar agreement.

Google: Code of Conduct in the South China Sea (COC)

Plus, China is using police (coast guard) not navy, （so It's actually the policemen disarmed and arrested Navy special force men ）

anyway both sides knew where the bottom line.

 

[rockdog]

Philippines can actually do it. It's treaty ally of the US.

Nop.

1. The treaty gives very ambiguous definition, said military action is an option not mandatory.

Except Nato, USA is very afraid of to be involved into some conflicts by less important nations, so most such traeties were somehow 'weak'.

2. According to the region defined by treaty, the disputed areas were not covered by ally's defending territories.

 

[Azaad]

Nop.

1. The treaty gives very ambiguous definition, said military action is a option not mandatory.

2. According to the region defined by treaty, the disputed areas were not covered by ally's defending territories.

Which is precisely the reason Philippines should try it.

 

[rockdog]

Which is precisely the reason Philippines should try it.

As far as the news shown, after PLAN sent a fleet to the conflict zone, US fleet actually sailed away for more distance. Both sides had communcation channels for avoiding misjudgement.

Philippines wanted to flame conflicts between China and US, but big powers have their own engaging rules.

Now Philippines became soft after conflict.

Philippines won’t be ‘intimidated’ but won’t start war amid row with China

President Marcos says he’s in favour of peaceful resolution but refuses to be intimidated after a navy clash with China.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Azaad]

As far as the news shown, after PLAN sent a fleet to the conflict zone, US fleet actually sailed away for more distance. Both sides had communcation channels for avoiding misjudgement.

Philippines wanted to flame conflicts between China and US, but big powers have their own engaging rules.

Now Philippines became soft after conflict.

Philippines won’t be ‘intimidated’ but won’t start war amid row with China

President Marcos says he’s in favour of peaceful resolution but refuses to be intimidated after a navy clash with China.

www.aljazeera.com

I'm sure this isn't the last attempt of the Chinese which means this isn't the last we've heard of this incident. The CCP must continue antagonising all its neighbours one by one. Philippines today , Taiwan tomorrow , Japan day after , India the day after the day after & on & on .

Gives more strength & legitimacy to the US & its many alliances like the Quad .

 

[rockdog]

I'm sure this isn't the last attempt of the Chinese which means this isn't the last we've heard of this incident. The CCP must continue antagonising all its neighbours one by one. Philippines today , Taiwan tomorrow , Japan day after , India the day after the day after & on & on .

Gives more strength & legitimacy to the US & its many alliances like the Quad .

Hint:
China has 14 land neighbors, it made deal with 12 of them, only two left are India and Buthan. If you count the percentage, China has less disputed land neighbors compares to India.




If you look from history angle, China in history is a land power nation, so it knows how to deal land dispute with most land neighbors.


Meanwhile, China never had good ambition as sea power in history, so it has no legacy to define ocean territories. Now China is using a creative way now: using infrastructure (seeding islands) to change geopolitical situations in ocean.

 

[mokoman]

Hint:
China has 14 land neighbors, it made deal with 12 of them, only two left are India and Buthan. If you count the percentage, China has less disputed land neighbors compares to India.




If you look from history angle, China in history is a land power nation, so it knows how to deal land dispute with most land neighbors.


Meanwhile, China never had good ambition as sea power in history, so it has no legacy to define ocean territories. Now China is using a creative way now: using infrastructure (seeding islands) to change geopolitical situations in ocean.

thomas shoal is some 1000 km from china , 190km to phillipines .

even chinese claim on tawang has some sense , but what is this

simply bullying small nations

basically the dashed line claim is like chinese claim on entire arunachal pradesh , absurd .

 

[Azaad]

Hint:
China has 14 land neighbors, it made deal with 12 of them, only two left are India and Buthan. If you count the percentage, China has less disputed land neighbors compares to India.




If you look from history angle, China in history is a land power nation, so it knows how to deal land dispute with most land neighbors.


Meanwhile, China never had good ambition as sea power in history, so it has no legacy to define ocean territories. Now China is using a creative way now: using infrastructure (seeding islands) to change geopolitical situations in ocean.

So you mean China's accepted the loss of Port Arthur to Russia ? In that case why did the CCP produce a map last year depicting Russian territory as Chinese . Russia lodged a strong protest as did India , Vietnam etc .

The fact of the matter is there's a huge trust deficit between China & ALL its neighbours be it those it shares a land border with or seas. You think countries didn't see the way China tore apart nearly half a dozen agreements to maintain the status quo & peace & tranquility on the border with India in 2020 ?

If ever there was any proof required that all agreements with the criminal CCP was temporary this was it

 

[helin]

In that case why did the CCP produce a map last year depicting Russian territory as Chinese . Russia lodged a strong protest as did India , Vietnam etc .

That sounds like fun,

Can you tell us more about what happened

 

[Azaad]

That sounds like fun,

Can you tell us more about what happened

If you can access Google , surely you can access all these sites.

Analysis: China's new map a timed move to reassert its territorial claims, flex muscles ahead of regional summits

JOHOR BAHRU: China’s decision to publish a new map that lays its claim over the disputed South China Sea as well as land areas contested by India and Russia too is timed to cast a spotlight on these issues and reassert its position ahead of multilateral summits, say analysts. The Association of...

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Jimih]

Looks like a BMP-2 rather than a Tank.

 

[mokoman]

Looks like a BMP-2 rather than a Tank.

there is video ? , can u post here

 

[Jimih]

there is video ? , can u post here

Iam just going by the number of IA personnel said to be perished in the flash flood.

Which Indian Army Tank can carry 5 personnel/crew?

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

Looks like a BMP-2 rather than a Tank.

Iam just going by the number of personnel said to be perished in the flash flood.

Which Indian Army Tank can carry 5 personnel/crew?

The article is mentioning T-72 tank

Five army soldiers swept away in Ladakh flash floods during tank exercise

Five army soldiers swept away in Ladakh flash floods during tank exercise | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: Five army soldiers were on early Saturday swept away in eastern Ladakh flash floods, according to a statement by defence officials.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[mokoman]

The article is mentioning T-72 tank

Five army soldiers swept away in Ladakh flash floods during tank exercise

Five army soldiers swept away in Ladakh flash floods during tank exercise | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: Five army soldiers were on early Saturday swept away in eastern Ladakh flash floods, according to a statement by defence officials.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

maybe barge transport gone wrong . they were doing it on indus river last year .

 

[Jimih]

maybe barge crossing gone wrong . they were doing it on indus river last year .

This time it was Shyok river.