India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[mandestiny]

Surely we are missing something. The way things progressed now. China must gone back now but not happening. Why ? Is they something planning which we not able to see !

 

[UZI™️]

 

[samsaptaka]

Bows and Arrows? Can we please stop trying to burden the poor Indian soldier with more and more weapons and skillsets that will be useless once the bullets start flying? Instead of trying to turn your Army into a medieval one, think outside the bloody box.

Use LRAD. LRAD (Long-Range Acoustic Device) are mounted on warships or vehicles for crowd control. It can emit a high pitched shriek that can damage the ears and cause distress to the PLA soldiers attempting to summit a peak. Use it to herd the troops and keep them in the Moldo killbox. Like the fcuking sheep that they are.

If you want to use bows and arrows to kill PLA troops, its better to use bullets instead.

All these are typical small scale overthinking. Just do what the US does, use disproportionate force and bomb the shit out of the chinkie camps using artillery and massive air power and laser guided bombs. (and start a war btw ). Just Kidding...

 

[doreamon]

Bloody savage bastards using guns against unarmed civilians . These assholes dont deserve any respect .

 

[Shashank Nayak]

China and India have signed an agreement that both will not use Firearms between 2kms from the LAC,now Chinese say you have signed not to use firearms but not medieval weapons, hence this aggressive posturing.
We should also need to bring our Mediaeval Weapons such as Gadda,Bhala,Tir kaman etc etc

We also have a ceasefire agreement with Pakistan which nobody gives a damn about.. and artillery exchanges happen every day.. Indian position should be.. By using lethal weapons against India, China has violated the spirit of the agreement .. hence India will use firearms in self defense..

 

[slipknot]

Kuch bada hone wala hai?

 

[garg_bharat]

How do you know this?.. Why will they use older, heavier ERA on a new light tanks?

It's main strength is our tanks having no APS & main weakness is it having 100mm frontal armour (unconfirmed, but from Chink forum) meant to stop auto-cannons.


That's a requirement of being a good citizen... I agree they are acting over-sceptic but india does have a history.

What happened to your lca Tejas shot down story? Chinkies don't seem to be claiming it? No osint handle either.

 

[Gandaberunda]

If we have mirrored them and sit on heights with visible line of PLA movements then we are at advantage. Let them bring the fight to us...

 

[Flying Dagger]

Surely we are missing something. The way things progressed now. China must gone back now but not happening. Why ? Is they something planning which we not able to see !

Go back where ?

They brought their minions against IA for war.

I was just wondering it took over 2000 chinks to stand against 120 Indian Soldiers under Maj Shaitan Singh.

What will happen to those Lilliput army against the might of Indian army taking them down.

Damn Tibet will definitely get freedom if war happens now. Atleast this will be the beginning of Independent Tibet first fight .

 

[Dessert Storm]

SM says PLA ammassed enough troops to try human waves on all Indian positions, without any preemptive arty/missiles. All these human waves will carry melee weapons (and an assault rifle as backup). The strategy will be to make Indians fire the first shots, or get lucky and reach the top without a single shot fired from either side, and hope that the Indians retreat.

The Indian counter-maneuver will be to amass large numbers on its side of the slopes, so when Chinese begin their human wave climb to the top, Indians begin theirs, and there's a medieval melee battle on a fucking ridge line, with 1:1 headcount. Most of the fatalities will come from falling/landslides.

Sir, I respectfully disagree to that assessment. Indians would go west big time. Then it's fog of war in any sector. On a lighter note..... can we play Rolling Stones on those slopes. Am a big fan

 

[UZI™️]

Surely we are missing something. The way things progressed now. China must gone back now but not happening. Why ? Is they something planning which we not able to see !

They believe they won't get any better opportunity then this,while USA is busy with elections and rest of the world is Battling COVID.Theyve a delusion that they're superior to us and Given their military might they can dictate their will on us and we won't be able to do anything but least they know that they're in for a setback,We ain't gonna back down,Aar ya paar.

 

[mokoman]

Any idea what is happening in other disputed areas ?

According to last peice of news , they are Chinese troops buildup everywhere.

I think they are preparing to do another 1962

 

[Suryavanshi]

Kuch bada hone wala hai?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Spoiler

 

[Shashank Nayak]

They have some big radars ans shit there, I supect they use it to monitor air space over Andaman.
Anyways having an enemy in your backyard is a problem.

This is what i found on wiki:
In October 2005, India’s Chief of Naval Staff was quoted as saying that India had "firm information that there is no listening post, radar or surveillance station belonging to the Chinese on Coco Islands".[4][7] In 2014, Air Marshal P. K. Roy, commander-in-chief of India's Andaman and Nicobar Command, stated that "China has been developing a runway for civilian purposes.[8][9] There are no reports of the presence of Chinese per se. The situation is not alarming". He added that there was only some civilian infrastructural developments, which were not a threat to India.[10]


If China has long range surveillance equipment on cocos island.. we must convince Burma to get it removed.. Or during a war with China, we physically occupy the islands..

 

[UZI™️]

We also have a ceasefire agreement with Pakistan which nobody gives a damn about.. and artillery exchanges happen every day.. Indian position should be.. By using lethal weapons against India, China has violated the spirit of the agreement .. hence India will use firearms in self defense..

We have already made that decision to use Firearms after Galwan incident,Now it doesn't matter whether they use Mediaeval weapons or come up for fist fights,Seedha gand pr goli bjegi,Simple.

 

[Cactus09]

Kuch bada hone wala hai?

PLA aur 11 pooh Ki gand ka ched bada hone wala hai.

 

[Bhadra]

Civilization means the organizational capability of a given tribe, not the meme of high morals.

They are very organized, afterall they have to make up for the weakness of the average soft-bodied urban insectoid conscripts in their army.

Ye Lo ... a new Maxwaber,,, or May be Chinese Marx..

Even a pack of Dogs can function with very high organizational capability but that is not called Dog Civilisation....

Civilization is the process by which a society reaches an advanced stage of social and cultural development and organization. It is a stage of social development that also includes morals and ethics .. which you are trying to dismiss.. culture is a very essential component of civilization and what Chinese are exhibiting is a primitive savage hunter-gatherer behaviour, way to warfare and morality ... The foundations of civilisation is not the ability to work together but the ability to remain together with higher human values... and with an order ....

 

[UZI™️]

If we have mirrored them and sit on heights with visible line of PLA movements then we are at advantage. Let them bring the fight to us...

Now IA is just waiting for One wrong move from Cheenese side,So that we can advance our position and Capture More land.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Civilization means the organizational capability of a given tribe, not the meme of high morals.

Wrong. Civilization means a structure that has vastly superior capabilities than a tribe. The means of attaining a greater advance in human knowledge requires structures that preserve itself and allow itself to evolve quickly. In tribes, the main concern is to achieve basic necessities for all its individuals. In civilizations, the main concern is the very advancement of human species which means maximizing knowledge creation to the extent that we can evolve with it. This is not possible without high morals. High morals are not a bloody meme. What turns high morals into a meme is when we project our moral logic onto an enemy that has no morals.

Hindu kings did have higher morals than the Islamic invaders, which is why the wars in India fought among Hindu kings that preceded Islamic invasions were far less devastating. High morals is how two great civilizations can reconcile differences and come together to face the final frontier.

But when facing a tribal enemy that has no morals, it is amoral to not give up your morals in your dealings with that tribe.

What we are doing by playing nice with the Chinese is amoral. Because it disrespects the soldiers of our Armed Forces. It disrespects our own ancestors who gave us this civilization to protect and take forward. And we are endangering it all to show chivalry towards an enemy that is using our chivalry to destroy us.

 

[Dessert Storm]

India must not conform to the Han-trick-of-the-day

The whole point of no gunz is there should not be any lethal hostilities on the border, if they want to be like Kublai Khan's soldiers there there is no point of us not using all these expensive guns procured under fast track emergency whatever route.

I am pretty sure IA would come up with a very Indian solution to that too. The Indian Playbook.