India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Gandaberunda]

Not Kargil, armoured thrust similar to 1965/71. Motive will be to divide our forces into western - northern and eastern borders.
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If this happens Lahore will be India's new city after Independence and Karachi will be dead city. Indian Navy is baying for Karachi port from 50 years. Nice celebrations for Indian navy by destroying the Karachi port again

 

[mokoman]

To my simple mind , we lost because of poor leadership , we were unprepared . I think the Chinese understand this well , so this time it wont be limited to a ground war . Like Praveen Swahney says it will extend to all domains , I think they will try to retake all the heights by force and if we respond , there will be full war.

Also a small summary of events leading to last war .

Spoiler

Well into 1962, Nehru continued to ignore the advice of
his generals about the army's poor state of readiness; he also
continued to assume that China would not or could not assert
herself against India.

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India's purpose was to pursue the forward policy to drive
the Chinese out of any area New Delhi considered hers. On
February 4, 1962, the Home Minister declared, "If the Chinese
will not vacate the areas occupied by her, India will have to
repeat what she did in Goa. She will certainly drive out the
Chinese forces."

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The Indian strategy in early 1962 was to
move behind Chinese posts in an attempt to cut off Chinese
supplies. China's reaction any new Indian outpost, thought,
was usually to surround it with superior forces.

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In April, Nehru announced that "We do not
want war with China, but that is not within our control.
An April Chinese letter protested Indian intrusions, and demanded that
India withdraw from the Karakoram area.

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On May 14th, the Indians proposed to allow China to "continue to use the Aksai
Chin road for civilian traffic"if China would otherwise with-
draw from all Indian-claimed territory

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In June, the 1954 Trade Agreements,
including the Five Principles of Coexistence, expired; talks
produced no new trade agreement, and trade representatives
returned home. Relations between the two countries continued
to deteriorate.

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Throughout the early months of 1962, China had several
external problems, especially the Taiwan Straits Crisis.
Chinese leaders continued to insist that they did not want
war, but that Aksai Chin was clearly Chinese and was stra-
tegically important to the People's Republic In June, when the
Taiwan Strait situation eased, China's attention returned to
the border situation and she brought more pressure to bear on
New Delhi.

Spoiler

in July A Gurkha platoon had been sent forward to cut off Chinese
outposts in the Galwan Valley (in Aksai Chin). On July 10th,
a Chinese battalion surrounded the Indian post, cutting it off
from supplies. The Chinese were attempting to halt Indian
advances in Ladakh; but India continued to supply the Galwan
Valley outpost by air drop. New Delhi sent a reinforcing force
toward Galwan Valley, but it was turned back by the Chinese.
India was continuing to move forward in an attempt to pressure
China into withdrawing from the disputed area.

Spoiler

On July 21st, there was a skirmish in the Chip Chap Val-
ley. Two Indian soldiers were wounded, the first since Konga
Pass in 1959.

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In August, China improved its combat readiness in NEFA,
Tibet and Sinkiang. While there was no sign of a manpower
buildup in Tibet, there was construction of ammunition dumps
and shockpiling of ammunition, weapons, and gasoline.

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On September 8th, the Chinese reacted to the Indian out-
post at Dhola. A Chinese patrol of sixty soldiers--which the
Indian commander reported as 600--moved over and down the Thag
La Ridge, into positions which dominated the Indian post at
Dhola.

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By late September, China had resumed patrols along the
entire border. On September 20th, another clash occurred at
Chedong, at the junction of India, Bhutan and Tibet. Both
sides took casualties, including one Chinese officer killed.
The fighting for physical control of disputed land was in-
creasing. Sporadic fighting in the Chedong area continued for the
next few weeks, suggesting that India was determined to drive
Chinese forces back.

Spoiler

On October 5th, India created a special Border Com-
mand under the command of General Kaul. Kaul was already in
NEFA, preparing an "all out effort" to expel the Chinese from
Thag La.

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On October 9th, General Kaul ordered General John Dalvi,
Commander of the Seventh Brigade, to take Yumtso La Pass.
Dalvi argued that he lacked the military resources--and the
winter clothing--to take the 16,000 foot Pass.Kaul compromised,
and sent a fifty man patrol to Tseng Jong. the patrol
reached Tseng Jong before dark on October 9th without Chinese
resistance. Little did the patrol know that bloody fighting--
and the China-India Border War--was only a few hours away.

Taken from here

The China-India Border War

www.globalsecurity.org

 

[utubekhiladi]

doesnt seem so,

isn't he the same assshole who met mr. kadi nindha at russia recently?

 

[Suryavanshi]

isn't he the same assshole who met mr. kadi nindha at russia recently?

Yes China will arm Pakis to heckle us.
Everything u see tanks, Rifle and plane will end up in Paki arsenal.

By the time Indian developes 5th gen fighter Pakis will most probably get upagrade J 31 from daddy.

 

[utubekhiladi]

why do i have feeling that porkis and chinese are planning something naughty in western front?

 

[Cheran]

 

[tarunraju]

Here it is, Hajmola for chicoms.

HSDTV, India's hypersonic weapon system.

FAQ #1: That doesn't look like a hypersonic device
Ans: Noob, that's a ground-launched missile, with a subsonic stage, the hypersonic-looking upper stage takes flight in the air. For the air-launched variant that flies off Sukhois, the upper stage is directly hardpointed to the aircraft.

 

[fire starter]

Yes China will arm Pakis to heckle us.
Everything u see tanks, Rifle and plane will end up in Paki arsenal.

By the time Indian developes 5th gen fighter Pakis will most probably get upagrade J 31 from daddy.

Need to destroy pakistan before that.

 

[fire starter]

why do i have feeling that porkis and chinese are planning something naughty in western front?

Thats great there is lot of repayment left. Cant wait to see goatfuckers getting gang banged.

 

[Pash]

Maj.Gen.Sujan Singh Uban who raised the Special Frontier force (SFF) which we are proudly flaunting today after keeping it secret for so many years. Let's pay our tributes to this man for his contribution.

 

[ninja hattori]

why do i have feeling that porkis and chinese are planning something naughty in western front?

wasnt this exactly the same scenario from starting?

 

[utubekhiladi]

wasnt this exactly the same scenario from starting?

i beg to differ, i thought china will fight himself like a big boy.

 

[ezsasa]

idiots are trying to create justifications post-facto, since this is China this will stick without any counter arguments/debates, or else there is a chance of being purged.

Safe to say, Indo-China relationships have reached a point of no return. as CCP continues to be insecure about US, the divergence of China with India along rest of the world will only increase. Funny part is that there are still many rich people in U.S & Europe who still believe China will change, and their investments are safe in china.

in essence India is near the centre of a new Cold War, which is being imposed on us. Tough times ahead boys.

As usual keep an eye out for Jai Chands.

 

[Mikesingh]

Are there no such this as Thermoflask with heating sir?

Boiling water in a thermos flask lasts for an hour and starts cooling unless you keep it in your heated/padded tents or next to a bukhari! The only salvation is k-oil for heating/cooking and bukharis to keep warm. And yes, MREs are also issued, but I'm not sure what MREs are issued presently.

 

[12arya]

India should issue a warning to all nations stating we are not responsible for any harm that befalls their citizens for visiting a conflict zone that has been illegally occupied by China.

Wouldn't be surprised if they round up foreign spouses of Chinese citizens and take them on a state sponsored joy ride to Pangong Tso.

I mean which sane foreign national wish to visit pandemic-ridden China right now??? Besides, how is India responsible if they chose to "visit" a war front trusting a communist regime?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Boiling water in a thermos flask lasts for an hour and starts cooling unless you keep it in your heated/padded tents or next to a bukhari! The only salvation is k-oil for heating/cooking and bukharis to keep warm. And yes, MREs are also issued, but I'm not sure what MREs are issued presently.

Sir I think even MRE won't cut it after all MRE is just tight packaged food with higher tolerance than regular food.
-40 degree of Siachen might be too much for MRE as well.

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

India successfully tests hypersonic technology demonstrator ..

Read more at:
http://m.timesofindia.com/articlesh...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[IndiaRising]

Paki response to HSTDV- if need be, well put bajwa in a canister and launch him towards the hypersonic missile. Both will collide and indian evil plans will be foiled Alhamdullilah

 

[Mikesingh]

If deployment continues till nov dec it ll be very grave situation for both the armies . More ll die of weather than war if proper precaution not taken . There was a CAG report last yr on this . I hope things have changed a lot since then .

No sun glasses, boots or food: Life of Army personnel in Siachen, Ladakh

CAG report highlights the condition of Indian Army in high altitude areas

www.google.com

Necessary funds have been allotted and emergency procurement of equipment has already been done from Switzerland. Items/equipment designed by DRDO have been outsourced to private companies here to expedite their production. Things are under control.

 

[vayuu1]

idiots are trying to create justifications post-facto, since this is China this will stick without any counter arguments/debates, or else there is a chance of being purged.

Safe to say, Indo-China relationships have reached a point of no return. as CCP continues to be insecure about US, the divergence of China with India along rest of the world will only increase. Funny part is that there are still many rich people in U.S & Europe who still believe China will change.

in essence India is near the centre of a new Cold War, which is being imposed on us. Tough times ahead boys.

As usual keep an eye out for Jai Chands.

Jaichands are

and will get befitting reply.