India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[another_armchair]

Dude chill d f down

That's one sentence stretched to a paragraph. UPSC essay writing skills coming in handy.
BC padhne waale ko 3-4 baar padhna padega.

 

[DownWithCCP]

 

[Chanakya 002]

so 100 F35 will fuck Tejas but 100 Rafale or 100 F18 wont?

Have i said that ? Your are trying to put your words in my mouth. We need our airo industry's who at a given time of war can make jets as per our requirements.

 

[Sehwag213]

Regarding kidnapping of 5 Indian porters , we can easily get them by kidnapping 5 chinese from Indian Ocean. There are too many options.

 

[Synergy]

Regarding kidnapping of 5 Indian porters , we can easily get them by kidnapping 5 chinese from Indian Ocean. There are too many options.

but the question is, do they really care?

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars The meeting in Moscow was asked for by the Chinese side.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Wei is like the Indian CDS but without any authority. Then don’t read too much into what Wei said or will say. The only one power in China is the Xi Jinping.

 

[mokoman]

Didn't the Chinese side say same thing . I think both India and China are now copy pasting each others statement , only swapping out 'India' and 'China' and releasing it.

 

[johnq]

seems theoretically possible but I don't think Russia will provide that until and unless the radars in Chinese S400 operates completely different than Russian ones as then Israel and US will also get that secret and that will completely compromise own security of Russia.

I'm not sure about the difference between Russia operated S400 and China operated ones. please shed some light on this.

(I'm a complete layman).

It doesn't compromise Russia's security at all because the export versions of all Russian weapons are downgraded versions and operate differently using different algorithms. All weapons exporters do this, and I am sure India will too, when the time comes. Also, you can learn a lot about a radar system by studying its waveform, provided you have enough time. It's like hacking a network, you can get through eventually provided you have enough access time and a good enough computer.
The other solution is of course wide band barrage jamming. If you jam all frequencies simultaneously at high enough power, even an AESA radar will suffer tracking range loss. Think of it as playing your radio really loud and moving through all station frequencies back and forth, but doing it really fast: In reality it's more complicated. It's like your wifi network working at reduced ranges because of interference from your neighbor's wifi. Indian Air Force and Army has these kinds of wide band jammers capable of barrage jamming in all different radio wave bands.

 

[tarunraju]

Extreme Cringe! How did this even happen? Indian Army crossed over into China and helped these people out? Or they entered India and were helped? Were they loitering in a "gray zone"? That car is too fancy for tourism near a hostile border, no? How did they determine that those aren't spies? And that jawan serving food on a tray to the Chinese...ick. Mega cringe.

 

[Haldilal]

Y'all Nibbiars RM has categorically conveyed to Chinese defence minister that actions of the Chinese troops, including amassing of large number of troops, their aggressive behaviour and attempts to unilaterally alter the status quo were in violation of the bilateral agreements. and not in keeping with the understandings reached between the Special Representatives of two sides. RM conveyed that the two sides should continue their discussions, including through diplomatic and military channels, to ensure complete disengagement and de-escalation and full restoration of peace and tranquility along the LAC at the earliest. A press note issued by the MoD says the RM stated clearly that Indian troops had always taken a very responsible approach towards border management. At the same time there should also be no doubt about our determination to protect India’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, he told the Chinese Defence Minister in Moscow last night, the press note added.

Nitin Gokhale.

 

[Bleh]

Extreme Cringe! How did this even happen? Indian Army crossed over into China and helped these people out? Or they entered India and were helped? Were they loitering in a "gray zone"? That car is too fancy for tourism near a hostile border, no? How did they determine that those aren't spies? And that jawan serving food on a tray to the Chinese...ick. Mega cringe.

Open border there for civilians. People travel... Even Yuan is accepted in markets & shops.

 

[DownWithCCP]

Extreme Cringe! How did this even happen? Indian Army crossed over into China and helped these people out? Or they entered India and were helped? Were they loitering in a "gray zone"? That car is too fancy for tourism near a hostile border, no? That jawan serving food on a tray to the Chinese...ick. Mega cringe.

for all we know they might not even be Chinese, this might just be to build public opinion and justify other actions that the Indian army might undertake in the future, remember how reports said that the chinese were pushing more people closer to the borders, this is exactly for that very reason and to show the world if someone accuses us of Human Rights violation or some other bullshit.

 

[Synergy]

It doesn't compromise Russia's security at all because the export versions of all Russian weapons are downgraded versions and operate differently using different algorithms. All weapons exporters do this, and I am sure India will too, when the time comes. Also, you can learn a lot about a radar system by studying its waveform, provided you have enough time. It's like hacking a network, you can get through eventually provided you have enough access time and a good enough computer.
The other solution is of course wide band barrage jamming. If you jam all frequencies simultaneously at high enough power, even an AESA radar will suffer tracking range loss. Think of it as playing your radio really loud and moving through all station frequencies back and forth, but doing it really fast: In reality it's more complicated. It's like your wifi network working at reduced ranges because of interference from your neighbor's wifi. Indian Air Force and Army has these kinds of wide band jammers capable of barrage jamming in all different radio wave bands.

got it. thanks.

P.S. : I think we need a growler like system based on mki.

 

[fire starter]

I think that very soon media campaign will start to mark us as aggressor.

 

[Sehwag213]

Extreme Cringe! How did this even happen? Indian Army crossed over into China and helped these people out? Or they entered India and were helped? Were they loitering in a "gray zone"? That car is too fancy for tourism near a hostile border, no? How did they determine that those aren't spies? And that jawan serving food on a tray to the Chinese...ick. Mega cringe.

Nah they are sending a msg to PLA.
From next time we will kidnap them.
Haven't you seen 80s and 90s Bollywood villain sending msg to heroes that your family is safe with us.

 

[Sehwag213]

I think that very soon media campaign will start to mark us as aggressor.

They aren't winning any media campaign. It is their mistake and huge miscalculation.

 

[avknight1408]

Baffling. I think VW tayron is not sold in India. So how did this car come? Where did this happen? Many questions.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Tumba]

Have i said that ? Your are trying to put your words in my mouth. We need our airo industry's who at a given time of war can make jets as per our requirements.

and where did i said I dont want indigenous aero industry? All I said in these times India will need to invest more