There is not even 0.001% financial or economic logic in any of your arguments so far,
Many in this Forum want to go to Beijing, Moscow and New York to defend India while disbanding their Army that guards the nation's borders,
Well that is what that stupid Nehru and his cronies in our MEA and bureaucracy did and thought ... Nehru embarked on conquering the world while totally weakening the national defense. All of you know the result... one jataka by China and the world Order of Nehru and his cronies shattered like a pack of cards down Namkha Chu.
Air Power, Sea Power and land power are all element of national security and all three are required to be balance as per needs of National security needs. There is no use going to SouthChina Sea to bomb Beijing when some rag Tag PlA is march down to Tejpur.. can that capability save Leh?
That is also the most harmful approach DODOs also embarked upon. They think that Agni and Prithvi makes 14 Corps or a Naval Flotilla redundant. India's nuclear capabilities have neither deterred Pakistan nor China in pursuing their military adventures on our borders.. and posing existentialist threats to India. In their pursuit of missiles and the bomb, India's security managers completely ignored development in traditional military capabilities and brought us Kargil, Doklam, and Now situation in Ladakh, DODO remained focused on Missiles at the cost of everything else because they wanted to play the role of Nehruvian strategist that will make all other forces redundant and declared them as the supreme National Security Bahgya Vidhata...
Everyone in this country is more of a politician and very less professional. Most of the guys who shout about the economics of Security totally ignore how much wastage, proliferation, bloated and unwarranted expenditure is borne on internal security, social security, poverty alleviation, education, and health... just to eat up every thing. Having spent 98 percent of GDP on those issues, where are we in providing social security to our people. The only democratization that has taken place is that in place of a few we now have thousands of undeserving Rajas.
Having granted themselves OROP all civilian govt pensioners target OROP for Ex-servicemen as if without that we were well off and doing great and build all arsenal so freely.. These are the people who sustain 14 million strong Army at WWI ration scales while themselves patronizing five-star Dhabasa and created national health problems in being obese by overeating.. .
Please do not advance such arguments.. those 18 Lakh ex-servicemen are also Indians, have families, liabilities and need social development. No one has ever achieved National Security by starving soldiers and filling their own coffers with arms import scams..
Sir, Agreed to your analysis, I would like to speak about our deterrence capabilities via Pakistan, I would leave to other members who know more about china to discuss more on the subject.
Pakistan is not deterred because, Pakistan Military and its politicians know that Indians Politicians dont have the appetite to fight even a limited war. Sadly our moves of strategic restraint on not crossing LOC during kargil war 1999 reinforced this opinion. We did not cross LOC in kargil, What happened early 2000's witnessed a spike in fidayeen attacks,
In 2001 December, Pakistan backed terrorists attacked our parliament. Pakistan probed India's threshold and satisfied with India's response. Pakistan very well guessed India did not have stomach for such limited war options,
1 step in escalation ladder.
When Nek Mohammed a Pakistan tribal war lord raised his guns against Pakistan in late 2003, Pakistan ruler Pervez Musharaff decided that a portion of Pakistan army be deployed against militants in North West Pakistan, so he cleverly signed a cease fire agreement with India.
Again Sir as you predicted our MEA officials scrambled to accept the offer.
In 2008 when Pakistan backed Lashkar e Taiba militants struck India's financial capital. Again our leftist Intellectuals were giving their opinion, any counter strike by India will strengthen Pakistan military hands alone. so please dont strike, Instead use diplomacy as an option.
This was something, Leftist Libertard
Ram Puniyani in his book on mumbai attack decried on Arun Jaitely who insisted UPA Government to use Covert Operations in Baluchistan as a means to punish Pakistan. Ram Puniyani states that " We should not use covert operations against Pakistan, which will spoil our role in UNO and we should abide by International laws, We must assure Pakistan through dialogue that we are not Involved in Baluchistan and then we have to provide a dossier on LET Involvement in mumbai Attacks. This was something un heard before, This is one example of Pakistan Hybrid Warfare this time using Media and Intellectual opinion as a mode of weapon.
Officers and Constables of DB Marg Police Station did a great favor to this nation by capturing kasab alive, other wise our Leftist Intellectuals, Commies would have totally absolved Pakistan. Whenever we carried out covert Operations against Pakistan, Pakistan could not last long, Whether it is on 1971 or retaliation to Punjab.
One more Incident which is very important i want to narrate, 2009 was not a good year to Pakistan by any standards, TTP leader at that time Baitullah Meshud gave Pakistan a stern warning. If there is a drone strike, by USA, he would retaliate by sucide attacks, he boiled the water at right temperature slowly salami slicing his territories, Between 2007 to 2009 he brought the district of swat and burner under his control, both the districts are around some 500 KM from Amritsar and 300 KM from Islamabad. Baitullah meshud was talking about peace with government of Pakistan, but was eliminating Frontier force, Pakistan Police.
Pakistan army could not watch it, suddenly Pakistan army realized that many of its troops from II strike coprs multan and Gujjran wala had to be deployed to fight against well entrenched terrorists. Pakistan PM Gilani offered one more peace deal with India, This deal was to remove some elements of India's Holding corps to Interior India, so that Pakistan troops based in Gujjranwala could move to south waziristan. Our politicians agreed, Indian politicians gave Pakistan an assurance we will not trouble you.
We need to Bleed Pakistan through deployment, Pakistan will bleed. We need to pulverize their forward posts, Instruct Para SF and Ghatak commandos to raid Pakistan posts on regular basis. Use artillery to target Pakistan forward posts, Use Airforce to target launchpads using stand off weapons, If you do all these things, Pakistan will bleed. Covert Operations is also required, but our politicians think that any covert operation against pakistan means risking minority vote bank.
If this Government which is having a brutal majority does not fine tune India's strategy then no other government in the future will do. Let us pray for the best, Jaihind . Moderators Please allow this off topic post to be allowed
foreignpolicy.com
