India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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tarunraju

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Jaishankar's K-street monkey tricks would have taken us nowhere. This was a case of someone (PM or NSA) telling Jaishankar to fuck off. The only thing Jaishankar accomplished is making chicoms complacent. They did not expect Indians to be proactive.

At least now the Chinese know that they're not dealing with a single mind, but multiple, that India doesn't give a shit about PLA's on-paper superiority; and more importantly, that India's electronic warfare, networked warfare, inter-service collaboration, and surveillance capabilities, are formidable. The PLA cannot sneak up on India anymore.

China had the element of surprise in May, and it squandered it.
 

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This is impressive work by Indian commandos: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...chinese-camp-disputed-ladakh-violence-erupts/

Indian troops have captured an important Chinese military post after allegedly fighting off an attempt by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to occupy further Indian territory in the disputed border region of Ladakh.


On Saturday evening, around 500 Chinese troops had tried to cross into Spanggur, a narrow valley near the village of Chushul and three hours of hand-to-hand combat ensued.


A senior Indian police source told the Telegraph the attack had been repulsed and a retaliatory special operations battalion seized a Chinese camp in the surrounding hills of Pangong Tso Lake in the early hours of this morning.
Three hours of hand-to-hand combat would yield casualties. Who will be the first to reveal theirs?
 

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@mods, if the situation remains as it is or deteriorates, I'm requesting instant ban for those who will engage in any kind of criticism to Army or govt, be it directly or indirectly.

@ezsasa @LETHALFORCE @hit&run @tarunraju and others.

(guys give your opinion please).
Yes, one can critisize as much as you want after the war is over. During the war there has to be full support.
 

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China's arrest of Australian journalist Cheng Lei is bizarre because she was working FOR China's propaganda department. China's government probably conducted a background check on her and found her politically reliable when they hired her.
 

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are you sure? as in your previous post you wrote something different.
I wasn't aware of the capture of the Chinese base when I wrote my earlier criticism. However, my assessment of China's strategy towards India and Indian territory remains valid at this time.
 

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I wasn't aware of the capture of the Chinese base when I wrote my earlier criticism. However, my assessment of China's strategy towards India and Indian territory remains valid at this time.
When a pussy ChiCom army tries to fight battle hardened Indian Soldiers getting the latest gear, you know it won't end well for the Chinese.

The only thing they can do is use missiles in which case the PLAN will be the Indian Ocean's newest artificial reef courtesy of the BrahMos.
 

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Yes, one can critisize as much as you want after the war is over. During the war there has to be full support.
Discussion of advantages and disadvantages of tactics and strategy may appear as criticism but in reality it is about finding the best way to achieve national goals. Leaders are humans and are fallible just like anyone else. Everyone makes mistakes and the only way to identify and correct those mistakes in a timely manner is to allow open and honest discussion. You can support a war's objectives while disagreeing on the manner in which it's conducted.
 

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So there were Two Ops!

1- when we thwarted Chinese Bid to occupy more areas( no physical contact as reported by media )

2- We conducted Op with the Goal of occupying strategic locations (Possibility of small arms fire as reported by Shatrujeet009)

Both were successful!

 

Haldilal

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Ya'll Nibbiars Vayuputra Hanuman ki jai sankat mochan Hanuman ki jai.

Our Air defence is more dense and well prepared than the Melcchas Air Defence. The Melcchas will have more causalities trying to enter our airspace but we will see less causalities when we enter their airspace. we also have more airfield and also more Air defence assets in the areas. Melccha technology is made on Copy Paste so we can expect melccha air defence to fail more than us.

Here our keyword should be Vaayugati. Total dominance of the air by us. We should call our Air power to blast the Melcchas Position and capture more startegic points. The melccha will have no option but to stare.
 

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Discussion of advantages and disadvantages of tactics and strategy may appear as criticism but in reality it is about finding the best way to achieve national goals. Leaders are humans and are fallible just like anyone else. Everyone makes mistakes and the only way to identify and correct those mistakes in a timely manner is to allow open and honest discussion. You can support a war's objectives while disagreeing on the manner in which it's conducted.
but not at the time of war. if anybody has any suggestion, he/she can directly mail that to pmo, mod or army.
no point in ranting here as probably govt even won't be aware of.
 

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Jaishankar's K-street monkey tricks would have taken us nowhere. This was a case of someone (PM or NSA) telling Jaishankar to fuck off. The only thing Jaishankar accomplished is making chicoms complacent. They did not expect Indians to be proactive.

At least now the Chinese know that they're not dealing with a single mind, but multiple, that India doesn't give a shit about PLA's on-paper superiority; and more importantly, that India's electronic warfare, networked warfare, inter-service collaboration, and surveillance capabilities, are formidable. The PLA cannot sneak up on India anymore.

China had the element of surprise in May, and it squandered it.
Sirji there is a reason chinks don't want to talk to Jaishankar but to doval cause they hate him..cause he believes in talking and not agreeing with chinks at Same time..as I said earlier diplomats job is to buy time and now we can see he bought enough time for IA😜..there is a reason chinks hate him and btw he speaks mandarin, has a Japanese wife and he has served in Beijing 🙏 he is Modi's crisis man and his speciality in foreign office is Beijing & Washington
 
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