India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[DownWithCCP]

India is getting pushed around in this border dispute. First there were Chinese encampments and patrols in Indian territory for months without any rebuke until the Galvan valley clash in which the PLA killed 20 Indian soldiers. That got India's attention. But what did India do besides go on an arms-buying spree and send more troops to the border? Not much apparently. India hasn't punched back, hasn't forced the PLA to retreat, and hasn't grabbed anything to use as leverage. Now we can see that for all their talk about negotiations they are still intent on nibbling away at Indian land. China continually pokes and prods along the LAC, looking for weak spots and building up its infrastructure where ever it can.

India's leaders are getting badly out-maneuvered. They're always in reaction mode, always waiting for the PLA to make the first move.

China's CCP leaders are playing a long con game with India. Their leaders and diplomats smile, talk about peaceful development and historical civilizations while the PLA is robbing India blind. The CCP is like the smooth-talking thief who distracts the cashier while their partner-in-crime robs the store. India needs to recognize the CCP's con-game and push back hard. The longer they delay, the harder it will be to undo China's gains.

Are you daft what about the recent reports?

 

[fire starter]

India is getting pushed around in this border dispute. First there were Chinese encampments and patrols in Indian territory for months without any rebuke until the Galvan valley clash in which the PLA killed 20 Indian soldiers. That got India's attention. But what did India do besides go on an arms-buying spree and send more troops to the border? Not much apparently. India hasn't punched back, hasn't forced the PLA to retreat, and hasn't grabbed anything to use as leverage. Now we can see that for all their talk about negotiations they are still intent on nibbling away at Indian land. China continually pokes and prods along the LAC, looking for weak spots and building up its infrastructure where ever it can.

India's leaders are getting badly out-maneuvered. They're always in reaction mode, always waiting for the PLA to make the first move.

China's CCP leaders are playing a long con game with India. Their leaders and diplomats smile, talk about peaceful development and historical civilizations while the PLA is robbing India blind. The CCP is like the smooth-talking thief who distracts the cashier while their partner-in-crime robs the store. India needs to recognize the CCP's con-game and push back hard. The longer they delay, the harder it will be to undo China's gains.

Ah bots and chamchas activated.

 

[A chauhan]

Not directly related. Couldn't help but share:

What a letter bro

 

[DownWithCCP]

Ah bots and chamchas activated.

Tell mods to ban, propaganda bots

 

[Lancer]

Ah bots and chamchas activated.

Mods should check if he's Chinese. After yesterday, I don't think anyone else can make such stupid comments.

 

[cereal killer]

Tibet about to become new Xinjiang. Won't be surprised if Kailash Yatra is scrapped totally.

 

[Knowitall]

India is getting pushed around in this border dispute. First there were Chinese encampments and patrols in Indian territory for months without any rebuke until the Galvan valley clash in which the PLA killed 20 Indian soldiers. That got India's attention. But what did India do besides go on an arms-buying spree and send more troops to the border? Not much apparently. India hasn't punched back, hasn't forced the PLA to retreat, and hasn't grabbed anything to use as leverage. Now we can see that for all their talk about negotiations they are still intent on nibbling away at Indian land. China continually pokes and prods along the LAC, looking for weak spots and building up its infrastructure where ever it can.

India's leaders are getting badly out-maneuvered. They're always in reaction mode, always waiting for the PLA to make the first move.

China's CCP leaders are playing a long con game with India. Their leaders and diplomats smile, talk about peaceful development and historical civilizations while the PLA is robbing India blind. The CCP is like the smooth-talking thief who distracts the cashier while their partner-in-crime robs the store. India needs to recognize the CCP's con-game and push back hard. The longer they delay, the harder it will be to undo China's gains.

Wow you understand so much and here I thought you didn't know if ISRO has rockets.

 

[DownWithCCP]

Wow you understand so much and here I thought you didn't know if ISRO has rockets.

He is pain and is trying to cope lol throw him out of here

 

[Suryavanshi]

This seems to be the problem. They will talk about calming things down and look for another flashpoint in a month or two.

 

[DownWithCCP]

This seems to be the problem. They will talk about calming things down and look for another flashpoint in a month or two.

Yesterday's talks achieved nothing what makes you think today's will? Anyways if the info is true we are at a good spot at the negotiating table.

 

[cereal killer]

India is getting pushed around in this border dispute. First there were Chinese encampments and patrols in Indian territory for months without any rebuke until the Galvan valley clash in which the PLA killed 20 Indian soldiers. That got India's attention. But what did India do besides go on an arms-buying spree and send more troops to the border? Not much apparently. India hasn't punched back, hasn't forced the PLA to retreat, and hasn't grabbed anything to use as leverage. Now we can see that for all their talk about negotiations they are still intent on nibbling away at Indian land. China continually pokes and prods along the LAC, looking for weak spots and building up its infrastructure where ever it can.

India's leaders are getting badly out-maneuvered. They're always in reaction mode, always waiting for the PLA to make the first move.

China's CCP leaders are playing a long con game with India. Their leaders and diplomats smile, talk about peaceful development and historical civilizations while the PLA is robbing India blind. The CCP is like the smooth-talking thief who distracts the cashier while their partner-in-crime robs the store. India needs to recognize the CCP's con-game and push back hard. The longer they delay, the harder it will be to undo China's gains.

Mods put him out of his misery... Guy is seriously hurt

 

[Kumata]

Welll ... chennis back to usual back mail

China detains Australian journalist, allows consular access

China has detained an Australian news anchor working for its state-run English-language television network CGTN, Australia's foreign minister said on Monday. The detention of journalist Cheng Lei is a blow to deteriorating relations between the two countries that have seen China warn its...

www.wionews.com

 

[nick_indian]

Welll ... chennis back to usual back mail

China detains Australian journalist, allows consular access

China has detained an Australian news anchor working for its state-run English-language television network CGTN, Australia's foreign minister said on Monday. The detention of journalist Cheng Lei is a blow to deteriorating relations between the two countries that have seen China warn its...

www.wionews.com

It's the fault of any foreign journalist that still continues to work in that well established rogue state. Why would you not know that your life and well being is at risk.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

 

[Lancer]

This seems to be the problem. They will talk about calming things down and look for another flashpoint in a month or two.

Depends what India's plan is, if our idea is to keep engaging in empty talks/have Jaishankar mouth typical platitudes while carrying out more ops like the last couple days - it could be a perfect strategy.

There's no way China can shed the tag of aggressor in this overall situation at this point.

 

[patriots]

Summary of what we got various sources. And various tweet s
1.china was ready to occupy various heights in southernern pangso
2.we got the news
3.we acted and captured some heights
4. It's beyond lac but within our claimed/perception line...
5.Chinesese are at black point but the surrounding height s are captured by us
6.our infantary are backed by tanks and artillery
7.no gun fight (debunked by many)
8.physical fights (says many)
9.osints claim we have hostage s

.....bdw the whole scenario resembles Siachen skirmish....

 

[fire starter]

 

[patriots]

 

[TheSaffron]

To the Hans and their 72-hoorie obsessed catamites lurking on this forum, listen, Chanakya has made Sun Tzu his bitch.

 

[dumdumdum]

I don't understand what problem we have with talks or what niceties Jaishankar mouths. Each person/position has a role to play. A Foreign Minister has to be diplomatic, appear to be always suing for peace. A defense minister will take jingoistic stands. Those who are supposed to be having "talks" will talk , those who are supposed to be beating the shit out of conscripts will do that.
PM will play the "adult" above all this. All these things will be done simultaneously. There is no either/or here.

This stupid "Oh Jaishankar is still talking of bonhomie" rant just makes us look naive. This is not saas bahu saaga where the moment a flash point occurs entire family will stop talking to other family