India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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The way you talk to me is not polite,

and from your latest comments i saw your wording is quite racial offensive, i have no interest to communicate with you.
sorry but I'd like to point out few things.

we have high regard and respect for Tiananmen martyrs, those who are fighting for Hong Kong, common Chinese people who loves independence etc. I salute them.

rest are bunch of slaves...

we are not against common Chinese people. we are sympathetic to the hardship they are facing.

we are against CCP and slaves and/or dogs of CCP.
we think CCP is the cancer that has to be cured.
 

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Onething wierd from communist congress party(CCP)and their followers is they stoop to new lows to belittle masses who have voted and supported this Government s tough stance be it in internal matters or international matters,they shame the voters which is quite embarrassing for them as a whole,that sums up its ideology ..make every move morons expose yourself with each passing day ,chamche kahi ke
ott :

if you look carefully, it's actually consolidating votes for present govt/Modi/BJP.
in politics, if you directly challenge the decision of a voter, he/she will fight back and be your adversary. that thing is happening here. ;)
 

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Now that India has got the excuse/has perfected the art of provoking while pretending to be defensive - we should carry out multiple such ops - basically claim as many heights/strategic points as possible.

Let the Chinese either accept it, or come running towards their deaths against a force that is perfectly positioned to take advantage of any such slip ups.
 

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Silence from US is unusual....chance for Trump to openly side with India but that may provoke our leftists here and go anti India
 

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Galwan Valley faceoff: Pictures of graves of Chinese soldiers go viral on social media

Almost two months after the violent cash at the Galwan Valley, proof of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) casualties is finally out. Pictures of graves of Chinese soldiers killed in the clash are going viral on Chinese social media.


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India captures Chinese camp in disputed Ladakh as violence erupts again between superpowers
On Saturday evening, around 500 Chinese troops had tried to cross into Indian territory near the village of Chushul

ByJoe Wallen, INDIA CORRESPONDENT31 August 2020 • 6:10pm

Indian troops have captured an important Chinese military post after allegedly fighting off an attempt by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to occupy further Indian territory in the disputed border region of Ladakh.
On Saturday evening, around 500 Chinese troops had tried to cross into Spanggur, a narrow valley near the village of Chushul and three hours of hand-to-hand combat ensued.
A senior Indian police source told the Telegraph the attack had been repulsed and a retaliatory special operations battalion seized a Chinese camp in the surrounding hills of Pangong Tso Lake in the early hours of this morning.
It has not commented on the nature of the clash or whether either side suffered any casualties.
Today, the Indian Government accused Beijing of “provocative military movements” three months after Chinese troops annexed 60 square kilometres of Indian territory in Ladakh.
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The Chinese Foreign Ministry denied its troops crossed the disputed Line of Actual Control, which separates the two superpowers, and accused the Indian Army of occupying its territory.
“India’s move has seriously violated China’s territorial sovereignty, severely undermined the peace and stability of the Sino-Indian border area, and rebelled against this. China strongly opposed this,” said Zhang Shuili, a spokesperson for the People's Liberation Army Western Theatre Command.
“We solemnly request the Indian side to immediately withdraw its illegally crossing troops, strictly control and restrain the front-line troops, earnestly abide by its commitments, and avoid further escalation of the situation.”
A senior Indian police source warned the situation had the potential to escalate, saying its troops had opened “a new front” by pushing Chinese troops back and capturing territory near the village of Chushul.
Military commanders from both nations met along the frontier today in an attempt to resolve the dispute, according to India’s Ministry of Defence.
Beijing is increasingly wary of close ties between India and the U.S

Beijing is increasingly wary of close ties between India and the U.S
It reiterated India’s commitment to dialogue but warned it was “also equally determined to protect its territorial integrity”.
“We never had any problem in this place and we hold it pretty strongly,” said Lieutenant General D.S. Hooda, the Indian military’s former northern commander.
“After relative calm, China has suddenly opened a fresh, brand new front. It’s a huge provocation”.
S. Jaishankar, India’s Minister of External Affairs, warned tension between the two countries is at its highest since the two agreed a ceasefire after the Sino-Indian War in 1962.
On June 15, at least 20 Indian soldiers were killed, the first fatalities along the LAC in at least 45 years, after Chinese troops used nail-studded bats to attack Indian soldiers.
While sporadic fist-fighting has broken out along the border over the years, weapons had not been previously used, as this was seen as a declaration of war.
Military officials from New Delhi and Beijing have been locked in unsuccessful military talks following this incident.
China is said to be trying to assert its authority in the region in the wake of strengthening India-U.S. ties, which it sees as a threat.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...chinese-camp-disputed-ladakh-violence-erupts/
 

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Yeah, no, we're about to get FU**ED!
These types of tweets don't sit well on this side of the world (Pak can testify).

Jokes aside, what do you guys think will happen now? Will this be the new normal? A game of brigade level kabaddi with both sides avoiding confrontation or will one side blink and respond disproportionately, starting a full scale war?

I have a feeling we'll be locked into this game of kabaddi for a long time now since both governments, while committed, are hell bent on not starting a war.
 

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Yeah, no, we're about to get FU**ED!
These types of tweets don't sit well on this side of the world (Pak can testify).

Jokes aside, what do you guys think will happen now? Will this be the new normal? A game of brigade level kabaddi with both sides avoiding confrontation or will one side blink and respond disproportionately, starting a full scale war?

I have a feeling we'll be locked into this game of kabaddi for a long time now since both governments, while committed, are hell bent on not starting a war.
Full blown war is very likely but some restraint will be exhibited even if fire works start. I wonder what is being discussed between China and Russia behind the scenes. US position is clear more or less neutral or pro India, Russia worries me a bit. Rajnath has a trip planned to Russia?
 

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Full blown war is very likely but some restraint will be exhibited even if fire works start. I wonder what is being discussed between China and Russia behind the scenes. US position is clear more or less neutral or pro India, Russia worries me a bit. Rajnath has a trip planned to Russia?
The only advantage Chinks have is to use firearms and equipments, unless they do it they will get only thrashing by stronger IA soldiers.

As I had said some pages back that China can't even deploy its 60% forces in Laddakh because they have too many enemies, they have entered in a deadlock.

Now IA can do whatever we want, except any brilliant move or full fledged attack Chinks can't do much.
 

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The only advantage Chinks have is to use firearms and equipments, unless they do it they will get only thrashing by stronger IA soldiers.

As I had said some pages back that China can't even deploy its 60% forces in Laddakh because they have too many enemies, they have entered in a deadlock.

Now IA can do whatever we want, except any brilliant move or full fledged attack Chinks can't do much.
Both are prideful nations and any serious gains from one side is not going to sit well with other side, therefore armed conflict is likely. No doubt India is much stronger vs 1962 and China's strength myth will be broken one way or other. My concern is will they tie Russia's hands against India in a prolonged conflict and how strong we are in Northeast sector...
 

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Few are unnecessarily wetting their Lungis...

Does not matter what the escalation from China is, we Indians are much better equipped to handle the casualties than China,

Let us be very honest,
What do you hate more?
not fighting & rolling over
OR
Fighting hard with chances of losing?

I know which one I would pick & that's generally how we Indians are.
We don't mind losing, what we detest not putting up a fight.

Buckle up, this is one cat & mouse game that will go on at multiple levels and areas at LAC.
 

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Both are prideful nations and any serious gains from one side is not going to sit well with other side, therefore armed conflict is likely. No doubt India is much stronger vs 1962 and China's strength myth will be broken one way or other. My concern is will they tie Russia's hands against India in a prolonged conflict and how strong we are in Northeast sector...
Russian involvement would mean India on US camp which is not good for them. IA is strong at Northeast as far as I know.
 

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Strategic air platforms has been called back from Leh Airbase, only intercepters with alert status are present now, seems like India is expecting the fireworks to start soon.
Some tweets r saying Indian Army did a fuckin big SALAMI slicing last week not just in North but in East also paid back in chinese own currency.
Also thr r reports porki scouts are seen with PLA in Ladakh pretty sure paki gadhas will be used as suicide drones haha
 

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Few are unnecessarily wetting their Lungis...

Does not matter what the escalation from China is, we Indians are much better equipped to handle the casualties than China,

Let us be very honest,
What do you hate more?
not fighting & rolling over
OR
Fighting hard with chances of losing?

I know which one I would pick & that's generally how we Indians are.
We don't mind losing, what we detest not putting up a fight.

Buckle up, this is one cat & mouse game that will go on at multiple levels and areas at LAC.
Dude, no one is hoisting a white flag. IA will do what its set to do but diplomacy needs to be in full swing in getting major powers like Russia to side with us when it comes to supplies and support. China has got Russia by the balls after Crimea sanctions. Unlikely Russia will damage relationship with India and JaiShankar and Rajnath are doing a great job.....but
 
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