India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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Bhadra

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Why are CAPF and IPS officers fighting?

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Why not?
There should be no place for Civilian law enforcement within Paramilitary.
UPSC exam manufactures impractical indivisuals, military manufactures practical indivisuals.
No amount of reading books will teach u how to fight Naxal.
It's the same in engineering colleges, after 4 years niggas gonna get a electrical degree but tell them to replace a light bulb holder they can't.
Officers of CAPF( BSF , CRPF , CISF etc) are also recruited by UPSC for the posts of assistant commandent , then they get on job training and experience before getting commanding positions .
Their demand is justified , IPS officers should not given top positions in CAPF .

But it doesn't mean that IAS/IPS officers are impractical individuals who have only bookish knowledge .

IAS/IPS officers read lots of books before passing the examination but after that they get lots of practical exposure in different fields .
And naxal problem is not just an armed conflict , there are reasons for naxal problem which includes socio-economic issues and IAS/IPS officers have more exposure and experience to handle such problems .

Oh guys , the issue is a little complex...
First do not call them Paramilitary ... there is nothing military there..

It relates to the system of Bureacrcy in India and the concept of Main Superior Service and Subordinate Services.

As per the constitution of India though India is a federation of States, its structure especially of bureaucracy is unitary in structure. One of the major factor that imparts a Unitary character to Indian political and administrative structure is the prevalence of All Indai Services and Central Civil Services.

In that Context, CAPF can not and never be a Service that has a central authority with state function. It actually is not a police force in strict sense by an Armed reserve to assist the Police. The Police functions of law and order is the responsibility of the states but controlled and executed by an All India Service called IPS. The basic apparatus of constabulary, thanas etc are provided by the states but the structure is then governed by IPS.

This is a politico administrative model of "Unity in Diversity".

CAPF is not a monlithetic whole. Where the CRPF is a law and order force, we have Three CAPF which are border guarding forces so different from CRPF in its nature and functioning. Then we have glorified Securiy guards in the name of CISF.

CAPF officers may become Class A Services like Indian Ordnance Factories Service or Defense Estate Services but CAPF can not ever function independently even on borders under Indian laws that fall under state jurisdiction ..

The Courts may give CAPF officers status of Class A services but never the independent role task and responsibility. That will affect the basic administrative model of the country. CAPF by nature and employment is a subordinate Service. No CAPF can function like Armed Forces or detached from overall police structures because of their tasks and nature of employment. Their being the main independent Services is a plain fallacy..

CAPF officers do need good pay and perks as also career progression. But they trying to override IPS is just plain nonsense.. if so then they must be recruited by IPS route and not a third rung CAPF route. A CAPF officer can never have an outlook, understanding, and vision of IPS nor the flexibility and wide scope of employment like an IPS.

An officer of State administrative service may become a DC but should not and can not dream of being a Defense Secretary of Finance Secretary..
 
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Did you try analyzing the meta-data of the pics? it could give us the gps coordinates of the dude unless he specifically deleted it when he uploaded the pics, also did you try google image search?
Yeah GPS coordinate of a jungle and a park will be great for targeting.
 

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Biden is an establishent/deep state guy like the clintons.. US foreign policy is like an aircraft carrier.. It takes time to change due to sheer momentum, inspite of China barking and doing all kinds of stunts for a long time now.. but now it is slowly turning against China..
I know, US foreign policy takes time. And it would have taken a couple of more years but due to the CCP virus things took a very sudden & bizarre change.

Some are saying that whoever comes to power, will probably blame Trump and let China get away. But I don't think so, things have gotten out of hands now. It's not just US and neighbors of China now, it's more or less the whole world and China. There is also another fact that many countries are seeing it clearly due to this pandemic that how far Chinese money has infiltrated them.

@airtel Let CCP make a propaganda of Rafale. The more they will make fun of it, the more they will be a laughing stock in the western world. Because everybody knows who have the slightest of defense knowledge that what actually a Rafale is capable.
 

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Yeah GPS coordinate of a jungle and a park will be great for targeting.
Did he not say that he was under home quarantine, so for that walk of his he might not have ventured too far from his home, and at this point even if we get the coordinates of that park or whatever we could make a rough estimate on where he lives.
 

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Can someone guess , where is this place ?

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Not anywhere near the border, that's for sure. The two species of trees I could identify were Roystonia regia (Royal Palm) and Caesalpinia pulcherrima. Unfortunately, the picture might be a couple months ago going by the blossom, or could even be recent.

But, it needs a little warm climate and lower elevations to grow. So nowhere near any mountains.

Definitely not PoK or GB. The palm can't take snow like that.
 

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Did he not say that he was under home quarantine, so for that walk of his he might not have ventured too far from his home, and at this point even if we get the coordinates of that park or whatever we could make a rough estimate on where he lives.
OK did you find that location?
I can see at least two locations from vegetation and sky. It could be three too.
Would be happy if you can figure it out?

What if he is posting pictures taken from Internet?
 

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Not anywhere near the border, that's for sure. The two species of trees I could identify were Roystonia regia (Royal Palm) and Caesalpinia pulcherrima. Unfortunately, the picture might be a couple months ago going by the blossom, or could even be recent.

But, it needs a little warm climate and lower elevations to grow. So nowhere near any mountains.

Definitely not PoK or GB. The palm can't take snow like that.
Also, looking more closely, the fourth picture probably has 2 Polyalthia longifolia var. angustifolia trees, aka Debdar trees. That firmly puts them in tropical zones.

The big tree in the middle could be Casuarina equestrifolia. It doesn't grow in J&K, Himachal, Arunachal, UK, Sikkim.
 
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OK did you find that location?
I can see at least two locations from vegetation and sky. It could be three too.
Would be happy if you can figure it out?

What if he is posting pictures taken from Internet?
Never mind, twitter automatically deletes the EXIF data.It probably started to do that recently because I remember reading about a case where law enforcement authorities used EXIF data to catch hold of some suspects.
 

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