India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[LETHALFORCE]

What's happening at Depsang ?

Reports of a big chinese buildup there. Some altercations also reported there.
Still no pullback from there will be negotiated this week??

Top Indian, Chinese generals to meet tomorrow as talks enter crucial stage

The meeting is expected to focus on the Finger Area and the strategic Depsang plains, with a complex disengagement process that began after previous military talks on June 30 progressing in Galwan Valley, Hot Springs and Gogra, said one of the officials cited above.

www.hindustantimes.com

Top Indian, Chinese generals to meet tomorrow as talks enter crucial stage
The meeting is expected to focus on the Finger Area and the strategic Depsang plains,

 

[nick_indian]

Reports of a big chinese buildup there. Some altercations also reported there.
Still no pullback from there will be negotiated this week??

Thanks.

Any idea where the Chinese are ? Have they captured any grey area like in Pangong Tso ? Or is the build up on their side ?

 

[utubekhiladi]

Reports of a big chinese buildup there. Some altercations also reported there.
Still no pullback from there will be negotiated this week??

Top Indian, Chinese generals to meet tomorrow as talks enter crucial stage

The meeting is expected to focus on the Finger Area and the strategic Depsang plains, with a complex disengagement process that began after previous military talks on June 30 progressing in Galwan Valley, Hot Springs and Gogra, said one of the officials cited above.

www.hindustantimes.com

Top Indian, Chinese generals to meet tomorrow as talks enter crucial stage
The meeting is expected to focus on the Finger Area and the strategic Depsang plains,

depsang is more critical and close to the dbo base and cpec highway right?
strategically, for chinese depsang is more valuable then galwan or finger -4 .. right?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

depsang is more critical and close to the dbo base and cpec highway right?
strategically, for chinese depsang is more valuable then galwan or finger -4 .. right?

If I am right all these areas are near our newly built road??

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Thanks.

Any idea where the Chinese are ? Have they captured any grey area like in Pangong Tso ? Or is the build up on their side ?

I don't know details but was told by someone on our side in that area that chinese have not
disengaged there.

 

[utubekhiladi]

If I am right all these areas are near our newly built road??

true, but depsang is more closer to dbo airbase, siachien, and their highway

 

[LETHALFORCE]

true, but depsang is more closer to dbo airbase, siachien, and their highway

Depsang is important Galwan is in media because of the incident there.

 

[nick_indian]

Depsang is important Galwan is in media because of the incident there.

Precisely why I wonder it is not getting much attention like Pangong Tso.

 

[utubekhiladi]

"Lord Ram Is Nepali Not Indian", Says Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Speaking at a cultural programme at his residence, Mr Oli also accused India of cultural oppression and encroachment

Kathmandu/New Delhi:
Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram.

The Prime Minister also claimed Lord Ram was actually Nepali.

"We still believe we gave Sita to Prince Ram but we gave the prince too, from Ayodhya, not India. Ayodhya is a village a little west (of) Birgunj (a district in Nepal that is around 135 km from capital Kathmandu)," Prime Minister Oli said.

"We have been oppressed a bit, culturally. Facts have been encroached," he was quoted by Nepali news website Setopati.com, which describes itself as "Nepal's digital newspaper".

According to news agency ANI, which quoted Nepalese media sources, Mr Oli also said: "Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian".

"Lord Ram Was Nepali, Not Indian": Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram

www.ndtv.com

Oli ki baat sunkar mujhe dengue hogaya.. bc.

conspiracy theory mein digvijay singh, zakir naik aur Zaid Hamid ka baap nikla ye toh

 

[nick_indian]

"Lord Ram Is Nepali Not Indian", Says Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Speaking at a cultural programme at his residence, Mr Oli also accused India of cultural oppression and encroachment

Kathmandu/New Delhi:
Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram.

The Prime Minister also claimed Lord Ram was actually Nepali.

"We still believe we gave Sita to Prince Ram but we gave the prince too, from Ayodhya, not India. Ayodhya is a village a little west (of) Birgunj (a district in Nepal that is around 135 km from capital Kathmandu)," Prime Minister Oli said.

"We have been oppressed a bit, culturally. Facts have been encroached," he was quoted by Nepali news website Setopati.com, which describes itself as "Nepal's digital newspaper".

According to news agency ANI, which quoted Nepalese media sources, Mr Oli also said: "Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian".

"Lord Ram Was Nepali, Not Indian": Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram

www.ndtv.com

View attachment 52944

Oli ki baat sunkar mujhe dengue hogaya.. bc.

conspiracy theory mein digvijay singh, zakir naik aur Zaid Hamid ka baap nikla ye toh

Funny how the PM of a country behaves like a common Twitter troll. If the Nepalese have any shame left, they would throw this guy out of that position.

 

[meister]

Iran drops India from Chabahar rail project, cites funding delay

The development comes as China finalises a massive 25-year, $400 billion strategic partnership deal with Iran, which could cloud India’s plans.

www.thehindu.com

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

"Lord Ram Is Nepali Not Indian", Says Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Speaking at a cultural programme at his residence, Mr Oli also accused India of cultural oppression and encroachment

Kathmandu/New Delhi:
Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram.

The Prime Minister also claimed Lord Ram was actually Nepali.

"We still believe we gave Sita to Prince Ram but we gave the prince too, from Ayodhya, not India. Ayodhya is a village a little west (of) Birgunj (a district in Nepal that is around 135 km from capital Kathmandu)," Prime Minister Oli said.

"We have been oppressed a bit, culturally. Facts have been encroached," he was quoted by Nepali news website Setopati.com, which describes itself as "Nepal's digital newspaper".

According to news agency ANI, which quoted Nepalese media sources, Mr Oli also said: "Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian".

"Lord Ram Was Nepali, Not Indian": Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram

www.ndtv.com

View attachment 52944

Oli ki baat sunkar mujhe dengue hogaya.. bc.

conspiracy theory mein digvijay singh, zakir naik aur Zaid Hamid ka baap nikla ye toh

china is using nationalism and our own religion to drive hate between the people. It's not an accident they choose ram and ayodh ya

 

[utubekhiladi]

china is using nationalism and our own religion to drive hate between the people. It's not an accident they choose ram and ayodh ya

yes, i am aware of what the atheist communist fuck china is trying to do.. what really bother me is, a Hindu like oli or the hindu country like nepal should know better. kissing Chinese ass for self gain in the name of religions is not going to end well for both nepal and china specially for nepal.

since when did god(Christ, Buddha, Ram, Vishnu and messengers like Mohammed or wahe-guru etc) starting carrying passports to identify their country of citizenship or birth certificate.

it would have been still be okay, if oli contested the birthplace like lord ram was born in Nepal. this would still been okay, but claiming that lord rama is a nepali citizen and belongs to nepal is pure arrogance and bullshit.

gods come down for human kind regardless of region or boundaries.

chinese hand is written all over this and mc oli playing into their hands like a lap dog. oli is now trying to put the blame on India for Nepals poverty, underdevelopment other social problems and political instability and creating enmity between two nations.

no wonder why china is trying to save oli government at all cost. where else they are going to find another idiot and lap dog like him.

porkistan did the same thing, the preached their children that india the fuckinh root cause of all their problems..

 

[rock127]

"Lord Ram Is Nepali Not Indian", Says Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Speaking at a cultural programme at his residence, Mr Oli also accused India of cultural oppression and encroachment

Kathmandu/New Delhi:
Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram.

The Prime Minister also claimed Lord Ram was actually Nepali.

"We still believe we gave Sita to Prince Ram but we gave the prince too, from Ayodhya, not India. Ayodhya is a village a little west (of) Birgunj (a district in Nepal that is around 135 km from capital Kathmandu)," Prime Minister Oli said.

"We have been oppressed a bit, culturally. Facts have been encroached," he was quoted by Nepali news website Setopati.com, which describes itself as "Nepal's digital newspaper".

According to news agency ANI, which quoted Nepalese media sources, Mr Oli also said: "Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian".

"Lord Ram Was Nepali, Not Indian": Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram

www.ndtv.com

View attachment 52944

Oli ki baat sunkar mujhe dengue hogaya.. bc.

conspiracy theory mein digvijay singh, zakir naik aur Zaid Hamid ka baap nikla ye toh

Is that a veiled offer by Chinese Oli to merge Nepal to India? He is cornered from all ends at home and Chini encroaching Nepal on 11 places.

Chinese Oli should say it clearly and not beat around the bush that "Meri phat gayi hai, mujhe bachao". We would still want to do a Janmat Sangrah by Nepali people though before merging.

 

[garg_bharat]

Oli has gone bonkers. No doubt.

We are seeing a circus in Nepal. However unsurprising given the events happening in the world.

 

[prasadr14]

India should call Oli's bluff and ask him to Declare Remayana as their basis for constitution..
Make Lord Rama their national figure and make Hinduism the only religion in Nepal.

In fact, we should instigate our nepal brethren to demand the same.

 

[tarunraju]

"Lord Ram Is Nepali Not Indian", Says Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Speaking at a cultural programme at his residence, Mr Oli also accused India of cultural oppression and encroachment

Kathmandu/New Delhi:
Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram.

The Prime Minister also claimed Lord Ram was actually Nepali.

"We still believe we gave Sita to Prince Ram but we gave the prince too, from Ayodhya, not India. Ayodhya is a village a little west (of) Birgunj (a district in Nepal that is around 135 km from capital Kathmandu)," Prime Minister Oli said.

"We have been oppressed a bit, culturally. Facts have been encroached," he was quoted by Nepali news website Setopati.com, which describes itself as "Nepal's digital newspaper".

According to news agency ANI, which quoted Nepalese media sources, Mr Oli also said: "Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian".

"Lord Ram Was Nepali, Not Indian": Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

Ayodhya, the ancient city believed by millions of Hindus to be the birthplace of Lord Ram, is actually a small village near Kathmandu, Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli said Monday, in a statement certain to provoke a reaction from followers of Ram

www.ndtv.com

View attachment 52944

Oli ki baat sunkar mujhe dengue hogaya.. bc.

conspiracy theory mein digvijay singh, zakir naik aur Zaid Hamid ka baap nikla ye toh

Oli's objectives may look like trolling, an attempt to bait morons into making angry political statements, and for India to get out of its comfort zone of not taking any overt action against Nepal that Oli can use to instigate crowds against India, but his motive is more sinister. He is trying to discredit the Indian Supreme Court's verdict and instigate Indian Muslims to pick up a fight over Babri once again. He is a head of state, and this statement constitutes a formal incitement to violence in India by a foreign head of state.

I think the best Indian response should be to play down and laugh away this statement while doubling its expenditure on the "remove Oli" project.

 

[cannonfodder]

Not yet, i'll believe it when there is an actual military confrontation between PLA & U.S military.
so far it falls in the category of posturing, and prepping for negotiations.

Nothing going to happen, US is the biggest trading partner with China( some negotiating will happen behind doors and matter will be settled). Wall street loves to design tech in US and manufacture it in China. War will be only and if only wall street relocates(2-3 years+). One does not need to be expert to know this. True situation is that US also needs China to buy its high tech stuff like tesla cars, iphones etc and buy cheap stuff to keep show running.

Which ever political party goes to war without cheap manufacturing diversification will face wrath of wall street through media outlets propaganda. India is on its own: Make or break point for our country. Otherwise being a lackey of one of above 2 countries is always open option. Atma Nirbhar bharat but no walk the talk of increasing orders of defense equipment designed in India

 

[Indrajit]

Why India and Russia Are Going to Stay Friends

Conventional wisdom holds that New Delhi will turn to Washington as it increases competition with Beijing. But Moscow’s importance cannot be ignored.

foreignpolicy.com

Interesting read.

 

[garg_bharat]

Nothing going to happen, US is the biggest trading partner with China( some negotiating will happen behind doors and matter will be settled). Wall street loves to design tech in US and manufacture it in China. War will be only and if only wall street relocates(2-3 years+). One does not need to be expert to know this. True situation is that US also needs China to buy its high tech stuff like tesla cars, iphones etc and buy cheap stuff to keep show running.

Which ever political party goes to war without cheap manufacturing diversification will face wrath of wall street through media outlets propaganda. India is on its own: Make or break point for our country. Otherwise being a lackey of one of above 2 countries is always open option. Atma Nirbhar bharat but no walk the talk of increasing orders of defense equipment designed in India

Your point was valid but no longer valid.
Situation changed since 2018.

War is the only way forward. China OBOR is direct threat to USA in Asia; and since Asia is economic engine of the world, the whole world as consequence.

USA will first lose Asia then Africa and lastly Europe. In Americas, central America is drugs and mafia zone; and South America is mostly sloppy bankrupt or near bankrupt countries.

OBOR is a military project. It's effect on commerce (the intended objective) is miniscule.