India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Sentimental Patriot]

That is their end goal lmao.
There are no "equals" with these "we gon be superpower n sheeit" types.
Currently they are not at par with US in various areas, once they are we will be vassalized unless we have long term plan(s) to deal with them militarily and economically

China will become a superpower though, this is pretty much inevitable with the current trajectory of events.

 

[shade]

China will become a superpower though, this is pretty much inevitable with the current trajectory of events.

That remains to be seen, they don't have the whole global "strike" capability like the US has with their Navy, Airforce and Marines in foreign bases, or UK had in the past, nor do they have any of those intelligence agencies causing regime change skills like the US has and USSR used to have in the past.

They haven't perfected jet engine technology yet, inspite of large sums of money being poured in, nor do they compete in Semiconductor fabrication equipment, or fabrication of items like processors or DRAM.

The moment they seem like a threat the globalists will pull the plug on the current bend over to China economics wise, their export based economy b gone which is why Xi is going Atmanirbhar China or "Dual circulation" as it is called in Chinese, and also their OBOR,BRI whatever those programs are called.

They could be a super power, or they will just be a boogeyman like the USSR used to be, only time will tell.

 

[ezsasa]

China will become a superpower though, this is pretty much inevitable with the current trajectory of events.

yes, current trajectory looks that way.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

That remains to be seen, they don't have the whole global "strike" capability like the US has with their Navy, Airforce and Marines in foreign bases, or UK had in the past, nor do they have any of those intelligence agencies causing regime change skills like the US has and USSR used to have in the past.

They haven't perfected jet engine technology yet, inspite of large sums of money being poured in, nor do they compete in Semiconductor fabrication equipment, or fabrication of items like processors or DRAM.

The moment they seem like a threat the globalists will pull the plug on the current bend over to China economics wise, their export based economy b gone which is why Xi is going Atmanirbhar China or "Dual circulation" as it is called in Chinese, and also their OBOR,BRI whatever those programs are called.

They could be a super power, or they will just be a boogeyman like the USSR used to be, only time will tell.

Then we also will be boogeyman only , after chena.

 

[sorcerer]

India now has a dedicated Drones Directorate to focus exclusively on drones
India now has a dedicated Drones Directorate that will solely focus on managing the drones ecosystem in the country. The civil aviation regulator, DGCA, obtained the permission to set up the Directorate from the Finance Ministry, and the department — to begin with — will have eight officials from the DGCA, but will be expanded over time, Amber Dubey, joint secretary at the Civil Aviation Ministry said on Monday.

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[ezsasa]

That remains to be seen, they don't have the whole global "strike" capability like the US has with their Navy, Airforce and Marines in foreign bases, or UK had in the past, nor do they have any of those intelligence agencies causing regime change skills like the US has and USSR used to have in the past.

They haven't perfected jet engine technology yet, inspite of large sums of money being poured in, nor do they compete in Semiconductor fabrication equipment, or fabrication of items like processors or DRAM.

The moment they seem like a threat the globalists will pull the plug on the current bend over to China economics wise, their export based economy b gone which is why Xi is going Atmanirbhar China or "Dual circulation" as it is called in Chinese, and also their OBOR,BRI whatever those programs are called.

They could be a super power, or they will just be a boogeyman like the USSR used to be, only time will tell.

Sirji, the new globalist bogie is "The Great Reset", start reading on it now because definitions are bound to change once democrats are in power.

 

[Sentimental Patriot]

That remains to be seen, they don't have the whole global "strike" capability like the US has with their Navy, Airforce and Marines in foreign bases, or UK had in the past, nor do they have any of those intelligence agencies causing regime change skills like the US has and USSR used to have in the past.

They haven't perfected jet engine technology yet, inspite of large sums of money being poured in, nor do they compete in Semiconductor fabrication equipment, or fabrication of items like processors or DRAM.

The moment they seem like a threat the globalists will pull the plug on the current bend over to China economics wise, their export based economy b gone which is why Xi is going Atmanirbhar China or "Dual circulation" as it is called in Chinese, and also their OBOR,BRI whatever those programs are called.

They could be a super power, or they will just be a boogeyman like the USSR used to be, only time will tell.

I think they will economically and militarily surpass America, I don't think they will bother wasting money on expeditionary task forces capable of turning up anywhere, but they don't need to as they will secure their own neighbourhood first.

Culturally speaking, America will likely continue to dominate due to how widespread English is, and to this day the top talent of many countries flocks to America (even Chinese talent) for research.

Chinese infrastructure is impressive though.

 

[johnq]

China will become a superpower though, this is pretty much inevitable with the current trajectory of events.

Nothing is ever inevitable. Two millenia years ago the Bharat empire was the greatest power on earth, but it eventually broke up due to infighting. The current Communist China is highly unstable with a lot of unhappy citizens, especially minorities; all that is required is a spark to set it off with regional revolutions. Things are not what they seem; especially not as portrayed by Chinese Communist government propaganda. The more China expands, the more unstable it becomes.

 

[Sentimental Patriot]

Nothing is ever inevitable. Two millenia years ago the Bharat empire was the greatest power on earth, but it eventually broke up due to infighting. The current Communist China is highly unstable with a lot of unhappy citizens, especially minorities; all that is required is a spark to set it off with regional revolutions. Things are not what they seem; especially not as portrayed by Chinese Communist government propaganda. The more China expands, the more unstable it becomes.

This seems like a platitude, I don't know why the Chinese people would suddenly want to rise up and take it down, that makes no real sense. The minority violence was mostly limited to Xinjiang Uighurs and we all know how CCP dealt with those mofos

 

[Knowitall]

Vassel doesn't mean total control over us.

As long as we agree to their trade and geo-political policies bahut hai.

We need to do a lot if we are to counter them.

 

[shade]

Sirji, the new globalist bogie is "The Great Reset", start reading on it now because definitions are bound to change once democrats are in power.

Introducing the ‘Great Reset,’ world leaders’ radical plan to transform the economy

America is the world’s most powerful, prosperous nation precisely because of the very market principles the Great Reset supporters loathe, not in spite of them.

thehill.com

A Skeptical Look at the 'Great Reset': A Technocratic Agenda that Waited Years for a Crisis to Exploit

The great reset agenda was already in place long before the coronavirus pandemic, and the WEF was just waiting for a crisis to exploit it.

sociable.co

What is this exactly, i could only find two articles contrary to this.
China through CGTN also seems to promote this.

 

[ezsasa]

Introducing the ‘Great Reset,’ world leaders’ radical plan to transform the economy

America is the world’s most powerful, prosperous nation precisely because of the very market principles the Great Reset supporters loathe, not in spite of them.

thehill.com

A Skeptical Look at the 'Great Reset': A Technocratic Agenda that Waited Years for a Crisis to Exploit

The great reset agenda was already in place long before the coronavirus pandemic, and the WEF was just waiting for a crisis to exploit it.

sociable.co

What is this exactly, i could only find two articles contrary to this.
China through CGTN also seems to promote this.

My current understanding is that it is state of affairs in India 2020 at a global scale : state control, welfare state, unelected like Supreme Court, National Green Tribunal, Twitter, Facebook governing the lives of public directly or indirectly.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

They could easily cut off oil supplies as they have a base at the choke point of the Red Sea (and therefore the Suez Canal)

Leave alone easily, cutting off supplies in Indian Ocean would need significant naval deterrence against Indian Navy. These are just token bases which it best can hold too insignificant firepower and ships which is useless in a war but may work against pirates.

Except US, no country comes close to IOR by a long shot. India is not that of a thing on globe but is foremost local power in IOR. And that's why government is keen on maintaining regional capabilities.

I doubt they could turn India into a vassal

They won't need to turn it into one. Import dependence and ECI weakness will make India a spineless country like Brazil.

That remains to be seen, they don't have the whole global "strike" capability like the US has with their Navy, Airforce and Marines in foreign bases, or UK had in the past, nor do they have any of those intelligence agencies causing regime change skills like the US has and USSR used to have in the past.

Those essentially are their loopholes which they may (or may not) come over in upcoming decades. They are creating their own version of economic zone which right now is there in North America & Europe.

The thing to worry is if India will remain a tier II power like UK, Japan or France and just keeps getting teased by East Asians forever like Soviets were by west or emerges as a first tier I to make its own sphere. Because US will decline even faster than we are watching.

Obviously I don't defy the fact that joining RCEP wouldn't have boosted India's relative power. But RCEP is going to significant shift.

 

[sorcerer]

Espionage Case: Court rejects bail plea of Chinese national arrested under OSA

Espionage Case: Court rejects bail plea of Chinese national arrested under OSA

A Delhi Court has rejected the bail petition of Miss Qing Shi, a Chinese National arrested by special cell of Delhi Police recently under the Official Secrets Act

news.webindia123.com

 

[shankyz]

 

[Sanglamorre]

My current understanding is that it is state of affairs in India 2020 at a global scale : state control, welfare state, unelected like Supreme Court, National Green Tribunal, Twitter, Facebook governing the lives of public directly or indirectly.

I envision a more sinister version.

Your entire history in indexed database. And active monitoring based on that. You're only allowed to "breed" with people of certain genetic makeup for desired traits and erasure of identity.

Aka, Indian brahmin girls forced to breed with Black Muslim Syrians sort of thing.

You're only allowed to board certain carriages and genetic status based services so you don't spread diseases. Your mental health constantly under monitoring so for don't start thinking differently.

You'd be made to integrate in a global system of health, economy, reproduction.

 

[johnq]

This seems like a platitude, I don't know why the Chinese people would suddenly want to rise up and take it down, that makes no real sense. The minority violence was mostly limited to Xinjiang Uighurs and we all know how CCP dealt with those mofos

These are the same Chinese people who were dying from a disease less than a year ago because of their government's coverup, and were only saved because the news leaked out from a few doctors. Nobody ever gets to hear voices of dissent because Chinese government controls all media, but they are there. There are consequences to everything eventually, whether it's forced labor camps in Tibet and Xinjiang, or the Chinese takeover of Hong Kong, or the Covid-19 coverup. The pot will eventually boil over, sooner or later. Just a year ago Trump seemed undefeatable with an incredible US economy, and look how that turned out. No need for platitudes; entropy is unpredictable. Who knows when the next pandemic strikes China, and next time the CCP may not be so lucky.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

They also have a base in Djibouti

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They could easily cut off oil supplies as they have a base at the choke point of the Red Sea (and therefore the Suez Canal)

It is a small base.. and there is no resupply or support around.. Pakistan would already be under an Indian blockade.. IN have it marked for extermination..

 

[johnq]

Vassel doesn't mean total control over us.

As long as we agree to their trade and geo-political policies bahut hai.

We need to do a lot if we are to counter them.

LOL Tibet thought the same way, as did Hong Kong. Chinese Communist Party government and their dog PLA are criminal entities. Once you open the door to them, they will eventually take over your life so completely that you are not even allowed to think/discuss something that goes against them.

Everyone and their aunties are going overboard over RCEP. But as organizations get bigger, so does their inherent instability. That's just physics. It is why Soviet Union broke up, and why European Union is falling apart. It's like having a bigger and bigger family; eventually the individual issues cause it to fall apart.

Indian government is making the right call here. There are consequences to letting China in, because once they are in they will eventually gain enough leverage over your business community that you can never go against them.

Before the British took over India, they were also just "business partners" (the East India Company).

 

[shankyz]

People lamenting India not joining RCEP should remember - India already has FTAs with ASEAN, S.Korea and Japan.

RCEP = ASEAN + S.Korea + Japan + (China + Aus + NZ)