India-China 2020 Border conflict

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In Tibet, China preaches the material over the spiritual - Times of India

Rest of World News: China is pushing to transform the mindsets and values of Tibetans to bring them into the country's modern mainstream, which includes urging the region

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

There is a limited time period for India to liberate Tibet with native support considering this.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Yesterday some discussions were happening that Chinese have moved ahead and taken Fingers 3 and 2. Sounds pretty improbable and I’ll explain why. As Follows :

1. Finger 4 has multiple spurs coming down, as shown in the image. Moving from Spur to Spur does not mean advance on fingers. That’s assuming in a freak probability they’ve moved a post or two ahead.

2. Indians are sitting on dominating heights, overlooking Chinese positions. These heights by IA were gained by their specialised mountaineering skilled troops and take humongous effort to reach and deploy. The advantage of clear line of sight and fire is with Indians now. Chinese would not try and get into adventurism if moving ahead knowing they have to fight altitude and IA both.

3. In mountains, you move along tracks. It’s not straight as crow flies like on a road. The tracks leading to Finger 3 and 2 pass, over the ridge line of F4 passes through Indian positions. So they would have to vacate Indians to move ahead. That would mean an armed conflict which means a battle which means a probable war. Nothing of the sorts happened.

4. Chinese positions In the area are maintained through their rear base in Nyagzu. From their they have troops and mike tracks to supper their posts. There is no connecting track between these tracks and F3 and F2. Which again means that Chinese wouldn’t have advanced without a proper supply line open to support their advance, and subsequent occupation. Logistics is backbone of Mil ops. And especially in such terrain and weather, no one carries out any ops without Adm being fully backed up. They wouldn’t reach ahead and deploy themselves where they don’t dominate their Adm routes and are rather at mercy of Indians.

5. In the larger scheme of things, heights have been occupied n troops are entrenched. Any atk on any position would lead to major battle n possibly war. And trust me, if China has to start a war, F2-3 wouldn’t be the first attack.

MMJSM.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[FalconZero]

China tries to negotiate sweet deal to step back in Ladakh. India won’t bite

China draws up a peace plan on Ladakh. India sees right through it

Army finds PLA’s condition that India should only patrol till Finger 3 of Pangong Tso unacceptable as it means that Finger 4 will become part of occupied Aksai Chin

www.hindustantimes.com

the sad part is, china has built roads all the up to finger 4 and upto finger 8 and we are yet to connect to finger 4 with road.

They made road till the finger 4 in 1999, if you check the sat maps i shared before you can see we have made road till the spurs of the finger 4...

 

[Dessert Storm]

Ya'll Nibbiars Yesterday some discussions were happening that Chinese have moved ahead and taken Fingers 3 and 2. Sounds pretty improbable and I’ll explain why. As Follows :

1. Finger 4 has multiple spurs coming down, as shown in the image. Moving from Spur to Spur does not mean advance on fingers. That’s assuming in a freak probability they’ve moved a post or two ahead.
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2. Indians are sitting on dominating heights, overlooking Chinese positions. These heights by IA were gained by their specialised mountaineering skilled troops and take humongous effort to reach and deploy. The advantage of clear line of sight and fire is with Indians now. Chinese would not try and get into adventurism if moving ahead knowing they have to fight altitude and IA both.

3. In mountains, you move along tracks. It’s not straight as crow flies like on a road. The tracks leading to Finger 3 and 2 pass, over the ridge line of F4 passes through Indian positions. So they would have to vacate Indians to move ahead. That would mean an armed conflict which means a battle which means a probable war. Nothing of the sorts happened.

4. Chinese positions In the area are maintained through their rear base in Nyagzu. From their they have troops and mike tracks to supper their posts. There is no connecting track between these tracks and F3 and F2. Which again means that Chinese wouldn’t have advanced without a proper supply line open to support their advance, and subsequent occupation. Logistics is backbone of Mil ops. And especially in such terrain and weather, no one carries out any ops without Adm being fully backed up. They wouldn’t reach ahead and deploy themselves where they don’t dominate their Adm routes and are rather at mercy of Indians.

5. In the larger scheme of things, heights have been occupied n troops are entrenched. Any atk on any position would lead to major battle n possibly war. And trust me, if China has to start a war, F2-3 wouldn’t be the first attack.

MMJSM.

I got what MMJSM meant in you post, when I stumbled upon a twitter post.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars I'm more concerned about PLA position over finger 3....they may have crossed CCL in that area and it provides direct LOS over main Indian camp.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars In a simulated environment, I once defeated Zeus and all other Gods and made dwarves work for me. Another time I took over entire Wild West and not to forget the time I won WW2. Just today morning I won two rounds of Golf with multiple Eagles. Simulated environment rocks.

MMJSM.

 

[Cheran]

The retired mil. officer mentioned here is Ex Generail Panag. Imagine the thought process of these people when hostilities were on, egging for the enemy just because he dislikes Modi.

 

[Dessert Storm]

The Malabar phase 2 excercise in Arabian Sea

I can see USA support but i do not see any Aggressive posturing either in Arabian sea or elsewhere.

 

[AZTEC]

I am cross-posting this message here to attract more attention.

Some people have again started raising unsubstantiated doubts on social media about the events of February 26 and 27.

I am using this opportunity to promote these brilliant articles written by ex-IAF pilot Sameer Joshi. Anybody and everybody who have not read these should read them now.

These articles destroy all misconceptions and ISPR propaganda around Balakot.

 

[FalconZero]

Ya'll Nibbiars In a simulated environment, I once defeated Zeus and all other Gods and made dwarves work for me. Another time I took over entire Wild West and not to forget the time I won WW2. Just today morning I won two rounds of Golf with multiple Eagles. Simulated environment rocks.

MMJSM.

Muh AI muh algorithm, i am sure this f**ker doesn't even know A of AI, retard.

I am cross-posting this message here to attract more attention.

Some people have again started raising unsubstantiated doubts on social media about the events of February 26 and 27.

I am using this opportunity to promote these brilliant articles written by ex-IAF pilot Sameer Joshi. Anybody and everybody who have not read these should read them now.

These articles destroy all misconceptions and ISPR propaganda around Balakot.

Can't view them for some reason...

 

[AZTEC]

Can't view them for some reason...

There you go. Click on these.
'A SHAHEEN's LAST FALL'.
'THE SLIP BETWEEN THE CUP AND THE LIP'
“HELL FOR LEATHER”
DEBUNKING THE ISPR's ANTITHESIS OF A PRECISION STRIKE AT BALAKOT - Medium

Mods please look into why [ *MEDIA=medium* ] script is not rendering properly. @ezsasa @LETHALFORCE

 

[Cheran]

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[Deadtrap]

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The retired mil. officer mentioned here is Ex Generail Panag. Imagine the thought process of these people when hostilities were on, egging for the enemy just because he dislikes Modi.

Today Panagstien shared a video (Whatsapp Forwards types) from YouTube claiming that American Satellite image providers are refusing to provide Satellite image for Ladakh due to Govt conspiracy to hide Ladakh incursion. Hehe.

NoRthErN aRmy ComMANdEr.

 

[LDev]

Sir, this may also be a "Dil ko behlane ko Ghalib khayal achchha hai" type sentence. Who knows what Russia supplied to China is severely downgraded indeed. Is it possible to accept downgraded weaponry by China? No doubt Russians helped us in many programs but simultaneously they helped China also. They would have even helped Pakistan but for Pakistan was the ally of USA and later on Pakistan did not have enough money to buy weapons from Russia. As far as the reverse engineering is concerned, one may visit any research institute in India, save exceptions, so It will be of no good to say about reverse engineering.

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Russia sells degraded weapons for ALL export customers i.e. the seekers of all AAMs exported by Russia are degraded compared to what is used by the Russian Air Force. So the R-77 used by the Russian air force is superior to the R-77 export version (called the RVV-AE). So what Russia supplies to China is degraded. But what Russia supplies to India is ALSO degraded. And it is the exact same product that is sold both to China and India.

The big question is what extent will the S-400 system on which India is spending $5 billion plus be degraded. And because of which India cannot buy US 5th generation aircraft like the F-35.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Chinese Def Min Spox has recently said that PLA troops in Ladakh have been provided high tech gear which will help troops in WAR PREPARATION WORK. No surprise, sometimes a person reveals truth by mistake. Indian army is ready to meet any challenge.

Frontal Assault.

 

[Cheran]

 

[LETHALFORCE]

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4,000km away ????

 

[Cheran]

4,000km away ????

Yes, Not missile range but the plane flew that much with refueling & then fired missile